Now that ISIS has threatened attacks on American Shopping malls

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I'm surprised that something like this has not happened before. IMO if you really want to create terror in the "heartland of America," start shooting up shopping malls, gas stations, and grocery stores.

I do spend a fair amount of time at my local mall. I'm a proud member of the morning mall walkers and grumpy old men club:what:. I really never thought I would be that old.

Now to try and answer the O/P's question. 90% of my C.C. is my J frame 640. I don't see that changing much, but if it did I would be carrying one of M K frame .357 Magnum revolvers. If I felt the need for more "firepower" than either of the above, I ain't going.
 
If such an attack occurs at a mall it will probably be carried out by some spoiled brat, under 30 years of age, American born, loser who decides society is not giving him the admiration he believes he deserves. The misfit will declare himself a part of the current Bogeyman organization (ISIS, ISIL, AL Shabab, AL whatever) in a delusional effort to enhance his prestige. The punk will shoot up a mall to teach us to show some respect for his "exceptionalism". People who are obsessed with their own "exceptionalism" when confronted by reality frequently overreact with an explosion of narcissistic rage.

The threat has not altered my EDC.

Jackal said:
Here's the trick: If you can get the US and NATO to stop backdoor funding/supplying ISIS in order to perpetuate the doctrine of our current communistic leaning top officials, this wouldnt be an issue we'd need to discuss.... Geez...;)
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Whenever I hear or read a statement of this type I always wonder if the person forgot to take their Thorazine with their breakfast.:(
 
They would love to hit a mall with AR type weapons. That will then lead to more media clamoring to get rid of guns in America because they are too easy to get, even terrorists can get them. So that leads to more gun laws and background checks. The real problem is we already have these BG's in America, we just need to get this immigration going so we can make them legal and lose track of them,
 
Anytime you have to re-evaluate whether your carrying a big enough gun or enough ammo you're going somewhere you don't belong. Rule number 1 of carrying, don't go somewhere with a gun you wouldn't go without. The new mentality of meeting a threat with more fire power in a CC situation is just plain silly. You're most likely NOT gonna shoot your self out of it with 45rds, if you can't GET OUT with 15. The advantage with CC is CONCEALED. A full size SEMI and two extra mags are hard not to see.
 
george burns said:
If you can't or have no intention of answering the question, then you should not try to change the subject. Just don't respond. I have lived through a lot and in 45 years of carrying a gun, have been in circumstances where it was necessary to use it. I am asking a simple question don't pollute it just answer it or don't.
I never said anything about running to a car for a weapon. Is that what you think a truck or vehicle gun is for? The problem here lately is that some people just cannot just answer a question without adding their own nonsense which has nothing to do with the question.
If you notice many of the old timers are either gone, or don't post because of this.
I lived in Bed sty, and was born there what does that have to do with ISIS, who said anything about running out to get a gun and going back in. This is just where the train goes off the tracks right in the station.
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george burns, in response to your initial question, no. I'm comfortable with my primary(1911) choice for the area where I live/work. It's what I function the best with and I presently don't have a reason to change it.

With regards to your above post and the following comments in your OP:
I am aware that I am not going to shoot it out with a bunch of guys with AK's or fully automatic weapons, but perhaps something that provided enough cover fire to haul ass out of a place under siege.
Also having an AR, or AK pistol in the car is becoming to look like a good idea.
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Can you clarify why the AR/AK pistol looks good to you with regards to the threat you quoted from the news? What am I missing that I should reconsider in doing the same?

Thx.
 
I will still carry my Walther pps because I shoot it the best but I will carry 2 extra mags instead of one. I wouldn't leave a rifle in my vehicle while shopping at a mall.
 
thefish said:
This.
If they get organized enough to pull something like that off, it wont be a bunch of guys swinging swords yelling god is great. It will be suicide bombers or a bunch of vans packed with fertilizer in a parking garage.

And Isis,isol, or abcd, I can think of a million other places id go shopping than a mall. I don't think I've been in a mall in 20 years.

I'm more concerned about the gangbanger wannabe holding up the liquor store or gas station in in, or the pissed off dishwasher who got fired last night where I'm having dinner tonight.
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Same here. Why go to the mall when there is the internet? The ONLY reason I ever went to the mall was for the girls. Turning 21 was the end of that. It's been 7 years at least.

Soft targets like malls have been potential targets for years. The real question is what has happened that the media is trying to distract us with this MOA s story?
 
Heh, like a couple of others have said - I too, am not surprised that *it* hasn't happened already. There are so many soft targets ripe for the picking that it is only a matter of time. It's good that terrorists aren't the sharpest tool in the shed.

I go to a mall maybe once a year, if that. Outside of food & gas, the overwhelming majority of my purchases are online and get shipped to the UPS Store.

Despite that, I now carry (as often as I can) a full-sized 9 or 40 with a spare mag and a BUG for a total of close to 40 rounds. Extremely slim odds that I'll be caught in the middle of something like that but life can be strange.
 
My EDC is a Glock 30SF in an IWB with 10+1 of .45 ACP. If I think the area I'm going to is high risk, I add one Glock 21, 13 round mag. If 24 rounds of .45 can't get me out of trouble, it's really hit the fan. For the record I've always looked at CPL usage as cover fire for an escape. I'm not interested in being a hero.
 
no. I carry what I can easily conceal and is comfortable. Shield in 9mm.

Btw. your 2 extra mags and a full size pistol won't be enough when you are faced with multiple attackers with body armor and AR/AK style rifles.

IMHO this question is extremely silly and a tad "mall ninja"....
 
No, i havent reevaluated my carry weapon for several reasons. First, it works. Secondly, I don't do malls because most don't like money from gun owners that carry. Third, there is no danger of of shootout with bad guys because most have the no gun signs which prevent bad guys from bringing AKs shopping. I think all of this talk about some boogeyman with a changing name is another fear tactic to get us to demand more body scanners, blue glove morons, and gun free zones. It used to take decades for our mideastern chickens to come home to roost, now it seems like days. Support the shaw, get the iatollah. Support, saddam to fight the iatollah and get dessert storm 1-3. Support bin laden to fight russians, get 911 and the longest/most expensive war in American history. Support rebels in syria, get isis at the mall?. No, i will not revaluate. I will not change my carry or visit gun free zones.
 
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Scare story on the news, what is being hidden? Are we in another stupid war, blowing money on obvious mistakes, or trying to disarm the citizens?

Honestly I'm surprised we haven't seen an attack. We Americans are the face of the infidel and with targeted attacks in Australia and europe...it's just a matter of time. Perhaps we have already had a situation that never made the news, who knows...at this point with this regime in office I wonder if we haven't had something noteworthy happen and go unreported simply to make people not go crazy and blame the elected officials.

As for carry, I'm still running day to day with a j frame and when going to crowded places the m9 comes along with 2 extra mags.
 
Have none of you spent a day in the Twin Cities in the last several years?

They have been full of Somali "refugees" for years.
The threat-maybe not initiated by "only native" Al Shabooob-might not be a coincidence.

A number of those refugees in MN went back to Somalia and as many of you have read, are suspected of participating in pirate/insurgent "votech" tng., before returning to their adopted homes in Minneapolis-St. Paul etc.

Any carry gun is many times more likely to be needed at a US gas station, or the bad end of Beale Street in Memphis, than inside any shopping mall.
 
Been reducing the amount of mall trips over the past few years. Got it down to Christmas shopping that I can't get on Amazon, and an eye doctor that I am in the process of changing away from. The very idea of a mall is silly. The drive to make them soft targets is even sillier.
 
I'll let Mall security handle it. They already have their rooftop ingress points mapped out and are trained and equipped to handle a hard target. Those roof panels do open, you know, and there are rappelling tie downs.

Rather than be in the way, I don't go. No sense confusing the issue when I pull out an AR pistol from the tennis bag.

In other news, I read where Segway has a soft tire option for Mall security, the foam treads are silent and can traverse cartridge casings strewn on concrete without making any noise at all.

All you OC haters note - these terrorists didn't say go attack a Chipotles in Texas. It's working.
 
If 15 guys with black hoods and AK-47's start shooting I really doubt my 15 rounds or so will make much of a difference. If they hide a bomb then my EDC won't make a difference.
Unless we are willing to start carrying our own "assault weapons" or having military types guard every place that people congregate then we are at risk (even WITH that we are at risk). The fact is that we just need to do what we always do.
 
It appears that a few MN legislators are concerned as well.
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Well, he's using a hot-button issue to drum up interest in his own cause of the moment. Fortunately he's on our side, but it is just polyticks as usual.

ISIS at the mall? My oh my, guess I'm all skeert now. :rolleyes:

This changes nothing. There are real concerns with some statistical probability of befalling me and mine, and then there are the great boogeymen out there like Islamic terrorism which a) is statistically r-e-m-o-t-e at the most generous assessment, and b) unlikely to come in a form I could react to with any conceivable daily carry gear.

So many things to be concerned about every day. This isn't one of them.
 
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I'm 30 miles north of the Mexican border. I understand that several terrorist suspects have already crossed the border into the US near here. I see Border Patrol everyday. One drove through our camp ground yesterday. 10 miles from here there is a BP compound with 100 BP vehicles in it. I've seen 2 Aerostat blimps since I've been here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tethered_Aerostat_Radar_System

If there wasn't the BP presence here the jihadists would be coming into this country by the truck loads and you can bet your hat on it. I'm not so sure some haven't been successful already. If you saw the terrain here you would know what I'm talking about.

I don't think people are going to wake until there is an incident at a sporting event or in a mall. People down here near the border understand the situation and many carry. I'm carrying a 1911. Not that I think I will have to use it, chances are good I won't. But I don't think I will have to use my auto insurance either. Your call.
 
I think Geoko45's still on the job nothing to worry about boys and girls...:D
 
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