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Potential GOP Chairman Favors AWB!-- Activism Opportunity

Discussion in 'Activism' started by JWarren, Nov 15, 2008.

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  1. JWarren

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    Posted with deference to "ZipityDoodah" on AR15.com. He said it best in his opening post, so I am quoting him:



    ZipityDoodah (on AR15.com) wrote:



    I wanted to get this message over to THR. PLEASE contact the GOP via the link that I have in this post and let them KNOW how we feel about thier direction.

    Guys, If you are interested in bashing the GOP, take it somewhere else. Not productive. Not worth it. This is about making sure that the GOP doesn't answer its identity crisis in a way counter to our interests.

    If you don't like the GOP, great. This isn't your thread, then. If you are dissatified, keep bashing them-- but do it elsewhere. Let me know what practical results you get from all that energy expended.




    Source link on AR15.com:

    http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=137&t=787067

    Source ZipityDoodah got the info:

    http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Michael_Steele_Gun_Control.htm


    Link to where YOU can tell the GOP what you think:

    http://www.gop.com/Connect/ContactUs.htm



    -- John
     
  2. Archie

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    I am a Republican.

    So the Republicans who represent me should be following my lead, not telling me what's good for me.

    I'll send messages.

    What a dipstick. This is what cost the Democrats the house and senate in 2000 and the Republicans can't remember?
     
  3. JWarren

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    Thanks Archie.

    I contacted them as well.


    -- John
     
  4. Prince Yamato

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    Ugh, are you kidding me? I actually liked this guy until now. What the hell is wrong with my party? $10 says this guy doesn't even know what an assault weapon is.
     
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    Michael Steele? What's he done for MD? Ugggh. They are picking him because he's Black...

    Time to light up the phone boards!
     
  6. Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow

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    Email sent to them - what a choad!
     
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    If I wanted stuff like this, I wouldn't be republican in the first place!
     
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    With "friends" like this, who needs enemies?

    I did my part, here is an excerpt from what I sent ... feel free to plagerize:


     
  9. Juna

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    According to the NRA, there are over 40,000.

    Steele just gained my vehement and active opposition. If ever we've needed a rise of the Libertarian party, now is that time.
     
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    email sent
     
  11. JWarren

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    Please, let's not lock this.

    Let's get damn busy.

    I am a registered Republican. And I am PROOF that I do not approve of some of the ideas and policies of my party.


    This thread is a good time to BASH the Republicans and criticize THIS choice. But let's stick to this issue and let our voices be known that we disapprove.


    -- John
     
  12. Archie

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    The reason for this sort of talk is an attempt to demonstrate 'reasonableness'. Anyone who espouses this sort of view is trying to look 'centrist' and 'approachable' and 'reasonable'. See, he's not a closed mind sort of fellow, and besides, who 'needs' those sort of things.

    The problem with this line of reasoning is it ignores the real problems. Crime is not driven by instrumentalities, crime is driven by evil intent. Laws directed at things rather than actions are always doomed to fail.

    Perhaps he's not such a bad guy. But he needs to get his act together and find out who is going to provide him support.
     
  13. Stephen A. Camp

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    Hello. I sent the following email to the current Republican Chairman:

    "Sir,

    I was very dismayed at Mr. Michael Steel’s support for a so-called “assault weapons” ban, even though neither the term nor the concept are correct. FYI, by definition an “assault weapon” must be capable of both full and semiautomatic fire and be in a mid-power caliber, i.e.: one that is more than a handgun and less than a rifle. When have “bans” worked? In the early part of the last century, prohibition “worked”, didn’t it? The answer is that it “worked” to help the mafia grow by leaps and bounds and if any class of firearms are banned, one can rest pretty well assured that there are groups willing to smuggle them in and more folks that might be expected ready to buy.

    This comment particularly bothers me:

    “Q: Your views on gun control?
    A: My views are pretty much in line with the governor's. I grew up under some of the strictest gun control laws in the country. You can have all the gun control laws in the country, but if you don't enforce them, people are going to find a way to protect themselves. We need to recognize that bad people are doing bad things with these weapons. It's not the law-abiding citizens, it's not the person who uses it as a hobby.”


    (Source: http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Michael_Steele_Gun_Control.htm (“On the Issues”))

    Is Mr. Steel saying that we need laws enforced that keep people from protecting themselves? Sure sounds like it to me? What do you think?

    I voted a straight Republican ticket this time. While not enamored with Mr. McCain at all, he was better than Obama but when I see this crap being espoused by higher ups in what’s traditionally been my party, I get physically ill. I also get angry.

    I’ve donated to both the RNC and individual candidates on a regular basis. That’s stopped. I will not donate one red cent to anyone willing to support “reasonable gun control legislation”. “Reasonable gun control” serves only as a precursor to yet more “reasonable gun control legislation.” I find it particularly repugnant that we, the “unwashed masses”, are considered so stupid that we don’t see this. When was the last time you heard any of the gun control bunch say that they now had their “reasonable” legislation and were satisfied? When the Brady Bill became the Brady Law, despite its being touted as the “be all/end all” and “all we want” gun control legislation, Sarah Brady changed her tune and after it was passed, called it “A good start”. Those supporting such legislation are actually working up to a complete ban…and we both know it.

    Do not believe that the Republicans can keep its membership with this sort of disrespect to the Second Amendment. The idea that “they” (the pro-gun contingent) will stay because they don’t have anywhere else to go is flat out wrong.

    I am hoping that the Republican Party will come to its senses and embrace pro-freedom, conservatism once again.

    I am looking for political party to support but can only support those supporting the Second Amendment. Right now, the Republican party isn’t it.

    I am a single-issue voter as are millions more of us that Mr. Steel seems to be overlooking. Preservation of the Second Amendment is that issue.


    Sincerely,
    Stephen A. Camp"

    I then sent a copy of Steel's remarks, this email and contact information to an informal group of folks I update on Second Amendment issues. I suspect that they'll be kicking in comments to the Republicans as well.

    Best.
     
  14. Coronach

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    We may be about to find out. That's easy to say when the Rs are in charge and we aren't getting everything we want. Remember what happened the last times the Ds held everything?

    Back on course,

    To which address should the communication be addressed, do you think? Current chairman? I wonder how much influence he has over picking his replacement?

    Mike
     
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    Will e-mail this guy ASAP.
     
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    This is from Shamalama on GeorgiaPacking.org here:
     
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    I was wondering the same thing myself. The administration has human resources under its domain, perhaps there. With a cc to the current Cman? That's how I'm going to send it.
     
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    I would like to send a letter to Steele himself. Has anybody found some good contact info?

    This site lists his website, telephone, and address:
    http://www.ontheissues.org/Contact_Senate.asp?name=Michael_Steele

    But the phone has been disconnected and neither of the web addresses work. (Incidentally, it is the same site that published his position on guns.)

    I did leave a little message here:
    http://www.draftmichaelsteele.com/contact
     
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    Here's what I wrote:

     
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    We need keep our focus on making sure Mr. Steele and the RNC understand that such statements are unacceptable to us and not get off on other issues and complaints. Thread drift tends to derail the discussion on how to get things accomplished. If the topic in the drift is worthwhile it probably warrants it's own thread somewhere on THR, but it probably isn't Activism.
     
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    Which phone number should be called?
     
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    I wrote this to the GOP Chairman:

    Dear sir,

    It as come to my attention that there is a movement within the leadership of the GOP to forward and support a new Assault Weapons Ban. I composed this email in response to remarks made in support of gun control by GOPAC Chairman Mr. Steele of MD - who is vying for Chairmanship of the GOP. As a registered Republican, I am neither fish nor fowl. I am not particularly religious, am pro choice, support stem cell research, and am a 2nd amendment absolutist. The second amendment has nothing at all to do with hunting or sportsman activities. It is there to empower the citizenry and provide a constant reminder to the government that it works for the people and represents the interests of the people - not vise versa. I find it deeply disturbing that many of our legislators see fit to try to impose their sensibilities on the rest of us and pervert the true meaning of the Bill of Rights and our Constitution to support their ends.

    There are legislators who feel that there is no need for "assault weapons" or any other firearms they deem scary or overly dangerous. They find them disturbing and feel that they are a menace because a very few broken people abuse their rights and use their firearms for evil ends. I'm a student nurse. I've seen up close and personally the damage that can be done with firearms. However saddened I may be by the untimely tragedies that occur from time to time through the irresponsible or criminal use of a gun, I am in no way inclined to surrender or infringe upon our civil rights. I would like to remind our legislators of what the true purpose of the Constitution and Bill of Rights is. It does two things:

    1. It protects the rights of the unpopular Americans.
    2. It protects the unpopular rights of Americans.

    I vote for the party that is most likely to preserve our civil rights. Betray this trust, and my family and friends will turn our political support elsewhere. I am not alone in this sentiment. Do not support another Assault Weapons Ban. This is "the land of the free;" so act to preserve our freedoms. Ensure that we have them to pass on to our children.

    Respectfully,

    David904
     
  25. JWarren

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    Hiya.

    I'm the original poster on this thing.

    I just wanted to thank you all for looking at this, taking it seriously, and taking action.

    THIS is what it is all about.


    As for what number to use, I have no idea. Do like me-- hit them all. Somewhere, there is a guy in accounting that is wondering why he has to listen to me about Steele on his voicemail.

    He's in good company, however. I just called every number that they put up there. Yes. My wife thought I was nuts while listening to me repeat myself about 14 times on the phone.



    At any rate, thanks!


    -- John
     
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