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All I will say is that it doesn't improve anyone's safety to be standing there while a cop monkeys with a loaded gun he may or may not be familiar with, behind your back.

I was pulled over for expired plates one time by a Missouri state trooper. I informed her I was carrying and she made me get out of the car and she pulled my 1911 off my hip. She was able to drop the mag but I had to point out the thumb safety to her so she could eject the chambered round (I volunteered the information after watching her fiddle around with it for about a minute on the side of a busy interstate). She proceeded to eject my bulled into a snow pile. Also gave me a ticket.

I got pulled over by a city police officer once and didn't have a weapon in the vehicle, so I made no mention of my CCW permit. When he came back after running my license, he approached the car in a noticeably more "tactical" manner, and asked why I didn't inform him of my permit. I said because I have no weapon and I don't have to even if I do have a weapon, even though I normally do inform when I'm carrying. He said I should inform the officer anyway for "safety reasons."
No ticket that time though.
 
I've gone through several checkpoints since I got my CCW permit back in 2010 but I
have been pulled over only once. I had my window rolled down and my permit and
license ready to go when the police officer got to the truck. I immediately informed him
that I have a CCW permit and I am carrying a handgun as we are required to do in
North Carolina. He asked me where was it located and absentmindedly, I started to
reach for the snubby I was carrying at the time. His eyes got big and he said, "It's
OK, I don't need to see the gun". After running a license check he came back to
my truck and told me to watch my speed because the zone I was in had just been
changed from 45 to 35 MPH. He handed my information back to me and wished me
a good day. I must say that I was a little nervous but things went smoothly enough
and I have less fear of harassment from law enforcement officials because I have
a CCW permit.
 
I've not had a bad run in with the law being pulled over in the time I've had my CHL. Not that I get pulled over a lot, but twice last year I got a warning, and have a nice day. Was it the CHL, or my politeness or the combo of the two? Or just lucky?
 
So, I get pulled over for going like 72 in a 65, right?

It's a Texas DPS officer.

I stop, he pulls in behind me. I'm watching the rearview and expecting him to come up on the driver's side. I've got the window down, driver's and handgun license in hand, both hands on the wheel.

Tap!Tap!Tap!

I look to my right, and there he is on the passenger side, spinning his hand around in the "Open The Window" motion.

So I button the passenger window down and hand him my licenses.

He looks at them, and says "Do you have a gun?"

I replied "Yes, it's holstered on my right hip".

He says "Show it to me" (His hand is now on his Glock)

I pinch my tee-shirt between my fingers and slowly lift up my shirt, leaning a little to the left so he can see...

When my stainless full size .45 1911 comes into view, cocked and locked, his eyes got big and he pulled the glock out of his holster and held it at the ready position.

He says "Real slow now, pull it out with two fingers and set it on the passenger seat".

So I did.

Then he told me to step out of the car and walk to the front of his cruiser.

So I did.

Not another word was said about the pistol. He ran my stuff and naturally I came back clean.

He told me that driving fast was the major cause of deaths on Texas highways, and told me he would not be as lenient next time.

Then he got in his cop car and drove away.

I thought it was a little weird, because I had been stopped before and other officers acted like they thought carrying a pistol was a normal thing for an honest citizen to do.

I even had one compliment my choice of sidearms one time.

You never can tell what's going on in the officer's head. The one that seemed spooked might have just come from a dangerous situation or been in no telling what just before pulling me over.

In all cases, The police have been polite and professional around me when I'm armed. What more could I ask?
 
Ive been pulled over 4 or 5 times in the past year and a half ive had my ccw permit. hazards on, cab lights on, keys on dash and hands on wheel. Upon notifying(required in my state) ive received everywhere from a "as long as you dont reach for yours, I wont reach for mine"(in jest) to a simple "Good!". Was never asked for a permit but I always handed it over. all experiences have been very positive and I always got off the hook! It was all silly stuff like headlights out, u turns, multiple rolling stops etc etc.

very happy ive never met a rude officer or ive been disarmed. Although completely legal in my state, I think disarming a ccw holder is escalating an encounter greatly. an officer on edge and a nervous citizen is never a good mix. I hear they are out there, im very happy to not have met one yet.
 
When my stainless full size .45 1911 comes into view, cocked and locked, his eyes got big and he pulled the glock out of his holster and held it at the ready position.

In all cases, The police have been polite and professional around me when I'm armed. What more could I ask?

So you consider having the police officer draw his firearm after you provide him with a CHL and tell him where your gun is to be polite and professional? I guess it wouldn't cross the line until he pointed it at you? He was so concerned about your gun that he felt the need to draw his gun, but then he asks you to take it out of the holster and handle it.....is that how a professional would handle that situation?
 
I have been pulled over for speeding 3 times in the last 10 years, and the officers have never even asked about weapons. I never offer any info unless requested.
 
I have been pulled over for speeding 3 times in the last 10 years, and the officers have never even asked about weapons. I never offer any info unless requested.
And that is just it...if it is so important to them to know who is legally carrying a firearm, why don't they just take the two extra seconds to ask? If it is not important enough to them to ask, I certainly am not going to make it important to them by offering.
 
In VA there is no duty to inform. I got pulled over once for having a head light out. I was not carrying at the time and when the officer went back to his car to run my DL and registration he must have freaked out cause he then called his sergeant and backup and had me wait for about 15 mintues for them to show up. They surrounded my car and wanted to know where the gun was(it was at home). Then got a lecture on how I need to inform them(again not required by law in VA). Anyways didnt get a ticket just a warning and a waste of my time. About 2 years later got pulled for going 5-10 mph over the limit, didnt inform cause I didnt have it on me once again. Same thing happend again but still no ticket. What struck me as inetersing is the cop said something along the lines of "we know we dont have to worry about those with permits.." I am thinking then why all this hassel then. These two encounters where with the Old Dominion University Police Dept. 3 years ago I got pulled for doing a rolling stop at a stop sign. Wasnt carrying this time, but I did inform by handing my permit with the DL and registration. Cop didn't say anything just went back to his car and 5 minutes later handed me my ticket for failure to obey a sign. That time was with a Norfolk cop.
 
Anyone think that they may not write tickets sometimes because they're afraid of you knowing your rights and pressing for discrimination against one with a firearm?

Just a side thought, but may be possible.
 
What county are you in? Of late all of our county sheriffs are banding together when it comes to gun rights, and from my experience most of the deputies are very progun.
if you were in NY NJ Conn. Mass. California etc you might think different
 
a few years ago i got stopped for being a little over the speed limite comming home from turkey hunting, i was all cammoed up and my shotgun was leaning on the front seat, after checking my cards he said any luck and i said no but i saw a few big globbers, so i told him the general area where i had seen the turkeys,well he gave me a warning and said i may see you,turns out he is a big turkey hunter himself.
 
I know that college/campus cops are mostly real cop wannabes, so they usually give you all the power they can demonstrate with a tin badge, i.e., writing a BS ticket; unlike the previous writers who were (almost?) unanimous in writing warnings. Every time I've informed a police officer on the road that I've got a CWL and I'm armed, I have been politely thanked, waited while they ran me through their computer and warned me to slow down.
 
Cops have a very dangerous and stressful job to do on the side of the road and you just handed him a "I'm not a felon (or violent misdemeanor offender) card". This is how 99+% of these encounters go.

Mike
 
For the past six months I've had a gut feeling that I would get pulled over:uhoh:

So, I get pulled over twice, once in August and again in September.

I deserved both pull overs. Good experience was I didn't get tickets; Bad experience: well, it was what I was told when stopped. :cuss:

In August, I did a 'California' stop. I saw the county sheriff's vehicle, and I pulled over before he could flip a u-turn. My state can run ALL of your info off of the license plate. Since I have a CHL, the first thing he said was "Sir, I see that you have a CHL, do you currently have your weapon on your person?" (which I did not) He then gave me a warning about stopping fully, (which I had not) even though I was ready for a ticket. He then stated that I should inform the officer immediately upon being pulled over that I have a CHL, even though I did not have a weapon on me(not state law). I kept my mouth shut and thanked him for the warning. The question is, how does my response to that question of my CHL actually make him any safer? He doesn't know if I'm lying or telling the truth.

Then, in September, I took a short cut due to construction. Even though I saw the sheriff's car parked on the side of the road, I decided I could get away with doing 11 mph over the speed limit:banghead: I see him flip around, and gets right behind me. I drive extra slow, to let him pull me over, he doesn't. I turn onto the main street, and then get pulled over. This time he asks for license and insurance. He goes back and does what he does. He come back and states that I have an CHL and then asks if I have my weapon, (which I don't) and stated that I did not. He also stated that I should have given my CHL license at the same time I was asked for my DL. Failure to do so would lend suspicion to most officers, and give them adequate reason to pull me from the car and search my person and vehicle. Once again, I tried to keep my mouth shut, just long enough to accept his warning and not talk my way into something worse. He then informed me that he was documenting the "warning" so that if I get pulled over again, I will be in "the system"

So, needless to say, I'm on double secret probation and have become the prime example of an excellent driver.

On a side note, both times I was pulled over my girl was in the passenger seat, strapped with her daily carry and her CHL, and was never asked one question by either officer. :evil:
 
I know that college/campus cops are mostly real cop wannabes, so they usually give you all the power they can demonstrate with a tin badge, i.e., writing a BS ticket; unlike the previous writers who were (almost?) unanimous in writing warnings. Every time I've informed a police officer on the road that I've got a CWL and I'm armed, I have been politely thanked, waited while they ran me through their computer and warned me to slow down.
Just an FYI. Campus cops are no-kidding real cops here. The only difference between them and Deputies or city cops is who pays their paycheck. In Colorado, the state employs the college cops, not the college, so they are state cops.


Anyway, as a police officer, I have this view of the whole situation.

Whatever you do to me will be reciprocated. If you respect me and are honest with me, I will do the same. If you are a cop-hating jerk, you might get an attitude ticket. The golden rule applies on traffic stops. Most cops are normal folks that just want to go home at the end of the shift with no hassles while they are at work.
 
The best police stop I've EVER had!

So, there I was, round-a-bout 2 in the morning one June night last year, driving a three hour trip back to work (Norfolk) from my brother's house (Manassas), where I had spent the weekend in his woodshop making the wooden carriage for the 2/3 scale replica of a 24 pound cannon off of the USS Constitution. The cannon barrel is about 6 feet long and is laid across the passenger seat of my car, which is reclined all the way down into the back seat with the muzzle pointing into the back window of my car. (Video link of cannon at the bottom.)

I was tired.

Then blue lights flash in my rear view mirror and I pull over. Lady Virginia Highway Patrol officer pulls me over, walks up to my window, which is down while my hands are on the steering wheel.

HER: (Flashlight in my face) "I pulled you over because you drifted across the line a couple times..."(insert pregnant pause here as her flashlight continues to sweep my car and pauses on the passenger side)..."Are you carrying any weapons in the car?"

ME: (I look to my right at the 6 foot long cannon taking up the entire half of the car, then look back at her.) "Would you believe me if I said "no"?"

HER: "Is THAT a CANNON?" :eek:

ME: "Well...yes and no." (Reached over to give it a wobble with my hand.) "It's a 2/3 scale replica of a 24 pounder off the USS Constitution that I'm making for my kids for Fourth of July this year. It's a carbide cannon made from PVC and foam. I just left my brother's house, where I was making the carriage for it and am on my way back to Norfolk for work in the morning. I'm a little tired from all that."

Conversation revolves around the cannon for the next few moments. She runs a check on my license and registration, comes back and gives me a verbal warning and advises me to pull over when I get tired.


I'll bet she told that story a few times on the job! ("So, I pull over this guy with a cannon in his car." "What, a .44 magnum?" "No, a six foot long CANNON...")

:neener:
 
Recently came up on 2 State Troopers about 10:00 at night. They had a mini-roadblock going. When I rolled down the window the trooper said it was a DL/insurance card check. Baloney. They were smelling for alcohol and dope. Neither of which they found. Along with my DL and insurance card i handed over my CCW permit and informed him there was a pistol on my person. In MO we do not have to inform but I just think it show him respect. He thanked me and we were on our way.
 
Recently came up on 2 State Troopers about 10:00 at night. They had a mini-roadblock going. When I rolled down the window the trooper said it was a DL/insurance card check. Baloney. They were smelling for alcohol and dope. Neither of which they found. Along with my DL and insurance card i handed over my CCW permit and informed him there was a pistol on my person. In MO we do not have to inform but I just think it show him respect. He thanked me and we were on our way.

You're a generous man, I wouldn't of given them the time of day,

Checkpoint's are disgusting and a gross violation of the 4th amendment.
 
Cops have a very dangerous and stressful job to do on the side of the road and you just handed him a "I'm not a felon (or violent misdemeanor offender) card". This is how 99+% of these encounters go.

Mike
really? they have bullet proof vests around here and a cop has never been shot since they started having cops. all they do around here is hide and try to catch people. if it was so dangerous they would not be doing it so much
 
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