Revolver vs Hi-Point

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I wouldn't recommend any gun to someone who hasn't been around guns before! I'd recommend going to the range with me to find out what guns are all about. If someone is a friend of mine and broke and in need of family home protection then I have a 12ga. pump just sitting there to loan them after they have gone to the range with me to familiarize them with it.

Giving someone advice on what gun to buy when you know they have no training is like handing a four year old a sharp stick and telling them to run around in circles as fast as they can. "No good can come from this"
 
clarification, a solid cleaning did not help the gun, once it started acting up it just kept on doing it.

regarding inexpensive handguns, yes I can see the upgrade from $130 to $200being a dealbreaker...at least for a few months. So what do you do? wait a few months and be unarmed while you skrimp a little more each paycheck?

Now, i've never seen them in a walmart or a cabelas or any other store that wasn't pure firearms, but every pure gunshop i have been in has always had 2 or 3 old marlin 20 guage bolt action shotguns for around $80, or an old stevens single shot for $60. I'd take one of those.
 
I'm not sure if I recumend a shotgun to people who haven't been around guns before. They have thier use yes.

-Bill
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Bill long guns are far easier to shoot than handguns and hit with much more authority.
Pat
 
Bill long guns are far easier to shoot than handguns and hit with much more authority.
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That's true, but a handgun is more discreet. Plus they are easy to hide and lock up.

-Bill
 
The revolver is more "user-friendly".

It is also safer for newbies and people who regard guns as but a "tool" (which they are.) People that have greater familiarity with firearls may be well served by an autoloader, but the revolver's "manual-of-arms" is inherently simpler for the "neophytes" to the firearms "world". BTW, a higher quality revolver will be less expensive in the long run. (Remember: Simplicity, equals safety.)

Good shootin'

Scott
 
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I would have to disagree with the statement revolvers are safer. Guns are only as safe as their users. If you keep your finger off the trigger with an auto or a revolver you will be fine. If you don't you will have problems. Believe it or not there are more ND's logged with DA revolvers in police service than with autos.

Revolvers are more tolerant of neglect than auto's. Meaning you can stick a revolver loaded in a drawer for 40 years and it will still work without cleaning and maintence.

Autos are more tolerant of abuse. They can handle harder use and keep on ticking but they need to be maintained.

As for reliability I would say full size service autos of reputable manufacture are equal to revolvers of simular quality. Now for pocket pistols revolvers are far more reliable.

As for accuracy revolvers are generally a bit more accurate for the same amount of money. But autos can be very accurate with enough money. My Wilson shoots 2 inches at 50 yards. But it cost me 1800 bucks.

Autos win in the continuity of fire area. Meaning They have more ammunitions capacity, they are faster to reload.

Autos are also slightly easier to fire because of the sa operation vs the longer da operation of a revolver. I am comparing SA autos to revolvers not dao autos. This of course is my opinion. Some people actually prefer da triggers because its harder to anticipate the recoil.

Autos are easier to conceal.

Revolvers will do fine in most situations. But Autos do have definate tactical advantages related to their higher magazine capacity and their ability to be reloaded faster. Shot placement is key as you said.
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That's true, but a handgun is more discreet. Plus they are easy to hide and lock up.

-Bill

Thats true but those qualities are not needed in a home defense weapon. Concealment is not an issue in your own home. As for locking up you can user trigger locks but I prefer safes.
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Thats true but those qualities are not needed in a home defense weapon. Concealment is not an issue in your own home. As for locking up you can user trigger locks but I prefer safes.
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Depends where you live. If I get a knock on the door and I'm not expecting anyone I often put my snubnose in my inside the pants holster and cover it. I then ansewer the door.

This way I don't scare the daylights out of some kid selling candy or cutting grass.

-Bill
 
Autos win in the continuity of fire area. Meaning They have more ammunitions capacity, they are faster to reload.
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As long as you have pre-loaded magazines. Without a pre-loaded magazine the semi-auto is quite a bit slower to reload than a DA revolver.
 
As long as you have pre-loaded magazines. Without a pre-loaded magazine the semi-auto is quite a bit slower to reload than a DA revolver.
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True but who carries loose ammo to a gun fight.
Pat
 
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Valid points .from everyone..with the exception of 355sig
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That really hurts man. :rolleyes:
Pat
 
I've had a shotgun before I had any kind of a handgun. Granted, a long gun is easier to use and a shotgun is a fine HD tool. However, there is another consideration that occurred to me.

Most inexpensive shotguns are long. Very long. Like 28in barrel long. That's what mine was. When I got it I had no idea about shorter riot barrels and I didn't have the $100 for one anyway.

Now, we're talking someone with a distinct lack of funds,which probably means they live in a smallish apartment. A long shotgun could become more of a hindrance than anything in tight quarters. Perhaps handguns really are a better choice in these particular circumstances? Or am I talking out my rear here?
 
You can pick up the home defense version of the 870 at a very affordable price. Last I checked it was around $250 or so.
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Now, we're talking someone with a distinct lack of funds,which probably means they live in a smallish apartment. A long shotgun could become more of a hindrance than anything in tight quarters. Perhaps handguns really are a better choice in these particular circumstances? Or am I talking out my rear here?
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No you're not. Handguns are also easyer to grab in a hurry.

-Bill
 
A long gun is a better home defense weapon. The only thing a handgun is better at is concealment. When we do entries we use 16 inch Colt M4's. Some people use 14 to 18 inch 870's. With the proper training moving with a longgun in tight quarters is not that hard. Besides you should be holding up in a safe room with your shotgun while your wife calls the police. You should not be playing 1 man swat team and go looking for the perp.
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