Single Action Revolvers

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RealGun

I think my grips were called "New Ivory" and were the whitest ones they made. I think ivory colored grips look great with both shiny guns (nickel plated or polished stainless), and blued guns.
 
Bannockburn, those are really nice. Is Bar-S still in business? And if I may ask, what did those True Ivory grips run you? I've heard they are the closest thing to elephant ivory.
The Altamonts on mine were cheap ($28) and look & feel good, but they aren't as "warm" as the elephant ivory on my Colt SAA.

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I haven't heard of anyone actually getting ahold of someone at Bar S in quite some time. A couple years ago they responded to my email asking me to try again in a few months but that's the last I ever heard. The one set I have was about $185 with fitting.
 
The Gould book is great. In competition we now have gamers intent on squeezing out every advantage possible under the rules. Their great grandfathers were known as "shooting jockeys."
 
Armybrat

I think I paid around $140 to $150 for them awhile back from Brownells. That was the only pair I got from them as they no longer had Tru-Ivory grips in stock after that. Bar-S use to have a fairly extensive website showing the process they used to make the grips and the different shades of ivory that they offered. Now it's just a page and a half and here's our phone number if you want to contact us, which as Craig pointed out it's like they're no longer in business. That's a pity too because they made a very high quality product that was unique, in demand, and cost a lot less than real ivory.
 
Especially now that new grips in real ivory are unobtainable. I would've thought it'd be a big boom for Bar S.
 
Craig

Especially now that new grips in real ivory are unobtainable. I would've thought it'd be a big boom for Bar S.
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You would think but it's sort of strange that they just closed up shop on what was a product in great demand. Sort of reminds me of the USFA saga. Maybe the owners were somehow related!
 
those "shooting jockeys" have taught me a lot: gould, himmelwright, winans, askins, hatcher, etc. not much has changed in the revolvers since those early days.

murf
 
Whenever I see a lot of beautiful guns, like these SA's, I feel like a Soldier on leave in Bangkock, with a pocket full of rubbers and a few hundred bucks.
 
I have some SA revolvers but nothing as nice as most of the revolvers already posted.

Here is a photo of 3 of them. The top one is an original Bisley Vaquero in 45 Colt. The other two are new Vaqueros in 38/357. I couldn't decide which I wanted so I bought them both. In reality I wanted them for Cowboy Action shoots. All three have 5.5" barrels.

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I also have a Single-Six in .22LR not pictured.

Here is another photo of the Bisley Vaquero.

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I have been wanting a short barrel Birdshead in 45 Colt and a 7.5" 1872 open top revolver too. I'm not sure which I will find first but I will get both when I can.
 
ArchAngelCD said:
The other two are new Vaqueros in 38/357. I couldn't decide which I wanted so I bought them both.
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Have you ever had a chance to compare your 357 with a 44 Vaquero? Curious about how the 357 would be as far as loudness. I gave my 44 to my wife thinking that a 357 686 would be a bit lower on the DB, but after shooting it last night I'd say the 686 is louder then the 44 when shooting mags. I have had tinnitus in the past, luckily it went away after switching professions, but my ears are very sensitive to loud sound these days.
 
Gerald_H said:
Have you ever had a chance to compare your 357 with a 44 Vaquero? Curious about how the 357 would be as far as loudness. I gave my 44 to my wife thinking that a 357 686 would be a bit lower on the DB, but after shooting it last night I'd say the 686 is louder then the 44 when shooting mags. I have had tinnitus in the past, luckily it went away after switching professions, but my ears are very sensitive to loud sound these days.
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Sorry, I have not shot a .44 Vaquero against the .357. I can tell you the .45 Colt is not as loud as the .357.
 
Gerald, 44 specials will be much quieter than full bore 357's and should prove similarly effective with the right load, 44 special gold dots are a great load.
 
Gerald_H said:
Have you ever had a chance to compare your 357 with a 44 Vaquero? Curious about how the 357 would be as far as loudness. I gave my 44 to my wife thinking that a 357 686 would be a bit lower on the DB, but after shooting it last night I'd say the 686 is louder then the 44 when shooting mags. I have had tinnitus in the past, luckily it went away after switching professions, but my ears are very sensitive to loud sound these days.
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My understanding is that the smaller diameter bullet fires at a higher frequency, which creates the sharp sound we equate with loudness. People at the range complain more about the 327 Federal Magnum than the 41 or 44, the latter of which is as much about the concussion of a stout load. I believe the most infamous for being ungodly "loud" is the 30 Carbine. 9mm always gets my attention when close to me.
 
RealGun said:
My understanding is that the smaller diameter bullet fires at a higher frequency, which creates the sharp sound we equate with loudness. People at the range complain more about the 327 Federal Magnum than the 41 or 44, the latter of which is as much about the concussion of a stout load. I believe the most infamous for being ungodly "loud" is the 30 Carbine. 9mm always gets my attention when close to me.
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Actually it is the cartridge's operating pressure, getting above 30,000 psi and any gun is very loud.

If you want really loud try a 9x25, now that is loud.
 
the smaller the caliber the less barrel volume. the smaller the barrel volume the less room for the powder gases to expand and reduce its pressure. the greater the powder gas pressure when the bullet exits the barrel the louder and sharper the report.

45 long colt - large barrel volume, relatively small powder charge - small report

44 magnum - large barrel volume, large powder charge - stout report

357 magnum - smallish barrel volume, large powder charge - sharp report (crack)

327 magnum - small barrel volume, large powder charge - real sharp report (sharp crack)

30 carbine - tiny barrel volume, large powder charge - ungodly sharp report

the amount of powder gases exiting the barrel is what causes the increase in the "sharpness" of the report. the short distance from the muzzle of the gun to your ear amplifies the sound (a rifle report is not as sharp because the sound takes longer to reach the ear and has dissipated quite a bit by the time it gets there).

murf
 
RealGun said:
My understanding is that the smaller diameter bullet fires at a higher frequency, which creates the sharp sound we equate with loudness. People at the range complain more about the 327 Federal Magnum than the 41 or 44, the latter of which is as much about the concussion of a stout load. I believe the most infamous for being ungodly "loud" is the 30 Carbine. 9mm always gets my attention when close to me.
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jaguarxk120 said:
Actually it is the cartridge's operating pressure, getting above 30,000 psi and any gun is very loud.

If you want really loud try a 9x25, now that is loud.
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It's actually all of the above. It's the high pressure coupled with the small bore and relatively large powder charge.

A good linear comparison is the .22LR and .22Mag. Both operate at the same pressure and have the same bore size but due to the .22Mag's larger powder charge, it is exponentially louder. Especially in handguns.
 
gotboostvr said:
Gerald, 44 specials will be much quieter than full bore 357's and should prove similarly effective with the right load, 44 special gold dots are a great load.
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My thoughts too as I am finding, thanks for the ammo suggestion. She enjoys shooting 44 spl and prefers the 44 over a shotgun for HD.
 
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