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Some pics of my Ruger SR1911

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  1. Walkalong

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    Ruger has been using investment casting for years without problems. I can only assume they have marks (circles, lines, etc) on the parts unless polished off.

    http://www.ruger.com/casting/index.html

    If I was in the market for a 1911 in that price range I would not hesitate to buy a Ruger. It looks like a very nice addition to the 1911 market. I imagine they will sell a ton of them.

    Congrats on a nice pistola. :)
     
  2. mgmorden

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    Actually Hyundai/Kia has the best warranty in the business right now. 10 years or 100,000 miles.

    They get a bad rap due to their early years when quality was a little more sketchy, but almost all modern Hyundai's are completely reliable cars. Heck their higher end models have about as many features as one can ask too. I drive a Hyundai that came pretty well stocked, but a coworker just bought a Kia that has heated seats, power doors/windows/seat, integrated dash GPS, rear backup video camera, full iPod integration - basically every nice feature I can possibly imagine it's got.

    And my own Hyundai - sitting on 82k miles now without any maintenance that's not periodic (ie, oil, tires, wipers, etc).

    As a matter of fact, a whole bunch of their vehicles are now being built in their assembly plant in Georgia (yes, the company is Korean but they have US plants).

    So in that regard, I kinda hope the Ruger is like a Hyundai - priced competitively and just as reliable as anything else you might buy ;).

    Personally, I'm going to wait until the initial demand dies down, but I'm definately getting an SR1911 this year. Probably October or so.
     
  3. rellascout

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    Do the research and you will find that there are plenty of failed MIM parts. Kimber comes to mind. Taurus & RIA thumb safties come to mind. Sig Sauer test several MIM parts some which failed in testing. IIRC For some parts MIM is not a big deal. For others it can be a castrophic failure.
     
  4. SwampWolf

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    Thanks for sharing the great photos, Nakanokalronin. Very interesting and informative. I was able to handle one and inspect it up close at the NRA Convention in Pittsburgh (after waiting in line for ten minutes :)) and was very impressed with the quality and attention to detail this "entry" level Ruger 1911 exhibited. I'm going to hold out for an adjustable sight variant.

    Let us know how your new Ruger shoots!
     
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  5. Smaug

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    Well, you're right, because my mileage does vary, hehehe.

    I'm not debating that Lexus is a better car than Hyundai. What I'm debating is that Rugers are just as good combat guns as Colts. Maybe better. Rugers don't start to fall apart once they're out of warranty, like Hyundais do. Also, long term, Ruger supports their guns at no charge, whereas Colt charges an arm and a leg to support them, once they're out of warranty. You could compare this to Hyundai's warranty too, but that wouldn't be apt either. Hyundai warrants only the powertrain for the longer period. This is nice, because we know the powertrain is probably pretty solid. On the other hand, the powertrain is the last thing that will need work. My friend's Hyundai started to have all the non-powertrain stuff give troubles after 5 years. Dome lights kept burning out. Headlights burn out, and the only ones that give an acceptable service life are the Hyundai ones. (which aren't as bright) This type of thing sometimes happens with Rugers (the improperly manufactured frame on some early LCRs is a good example) But Ruger basically says: "Whoops. Our bad. Send us the gun and we'll send you a new one with no questions asked." Hynudai says: "Sorry, those electrical problems are not covered by the extended warranty. GOTCHA!!"

    A more apt comparison would be Toyota vs. Lexus. They're both reliable and high quality. They will both last a long time. But the Lexus is built with more expensive materials, such as leather, and big V6 engines where Toyotas are made with less expensive, but equally serviceable materials, such as cloth and four cylinder engines. They're worth more later because they were worth more to begin with, and everything else is roughly equal.

    Same with a Colt 1911 vs. a Ruger. Nicer materials, but not necessarily any more serviceable. There's a bit more to it because of Colt's supply & demand tricks and their longer history with the platform. Perceived value vs. serviceability.

    I don't know about the 1911s yet, but from a long term serviceability stand point, I would put my old cast Ruger P90 against a forged Colt 1911 any day. Not as luxurious, but equally serviceable.

    Same goes for revolvers. I would put my Redhawk against a S&W any day of the week. The Ruger may not "seem" as nice, but by God, that thing can keep going and going and perform well the whole time. The Smith loosens up and goes out of time, and the Ruger's still going strong without complaint.

    Just be open-minded to the new technologies, is all I'm saying. It wasn't too long ago when a certain polymer-framed gun burst on the scene, and the nay-sayers eventually had to concede that they are just as serviceable, and admit that it is a preference issue and not a quality one.
     
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    Well, if that is the case, then I will have to concede the point.

    Let's just say I have more faith in Ruger to get it right than I do in Taurus and Kimber. Ruger was the one who made casting a viable option. By doing it right.
     
  7. rellascout

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    I am not sure that we can say what Rugers 1911s will really be like under heavy use. Rember how bad Sig stumbled out of the gate. They had tons of trouble because building a 1911 is different that other guns. :p
     
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    True ... and that's why after seeing detailed photos I said that the hammer, slide stop, thumb safety, grip safety and MSH look like they're cast rather than MIM. Cast parts typically have gates large enough to allow molten metal to be poured into the mold. Injection molding forces the material into the mold under pressure so the gates can be smaller. Perhaps this is why very small parts are hard to cast. The disconnector looks like it's MIM for sure but the sear is hard to see clearly. I hope a casting/MIM expert shows up because I doubt that Ruger will confirm either way.

    Nakanokalronin, I'm not trying to find any faults with the Ruger. I like to know what I'm buying that's all. MIM has been proven to work and the Ruger will probably sell very well and prove to be a durable 1911. Personally, I don't want a MIM hammer, hammer strut, sear, disconnector, thumb safety or slide stop so if I buy a 1911 that has them, I'll simply swap them out for non-MIM parts as I did with my Kimber.
     
  9. Nakanokalronin

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    Thanks for the replies everyone The only reason I mention the casting/MIM was because everyone was speculating what Ruger used in the SR1911. I have no problem with the parts since I have yet to have a cast/MIM part fail on me and I have some pretty high round count 1911s including Kimbers. Every part is fit very well.

    The fact that the plunger tube is part of the frame is an excellent choice on Ruger's part which is something I'd like to see all manufactures do. The frame to slide fit is tight with only a hair's width of play if that. I'll try and get to the range A.S.A.P and post a report in a separate thread when I do.
     
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    Toyota and Lexus are the same company ;). Lexus is their luxury line - Toyota is their budget line. Toyota to Lexus is more like comparing a Springfield GI45 and a Springfield Trophy Match.

    Overall though, in recent years, IMHO the main differences between Toyota and Hyundai are the countries of origin and the names on them. Much like many pistol brands, the main people I hear bashing Hyundai have never driven nor owned one :).

    I'm confident that the Ruger will hold up just fine.
     
  11. ohwell

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    The SR1911 seems like a very good gun to me I like mine sometimes you just have to ignore the thread trolls that like to bash other products than what they prefer. They'd be better off served just commenting in the threads of guns they like.
     
  12. aliasneo07

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    1911 noon here, but can you just replace the mim parts with aftermarket non mim parts?
     
  13. mgmorden

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    Yes, but sometimes 1911 parts require some handfitting to work in a new gun (sometimes they just drop in too - all depends). That's why I got rid of my last 1911 - it was a project gun that I couldn't make run right (it was darned accurate when it worked though :)). I'm hoping the Ruger makes a good replacement. I need something new to burn up the ~200 rounds of .45ACP I have left sitting in my ammo drawer anyways :).
     
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    I love the mentality that anyone who does not praise a particular gun or brand is troll. I have not seen any bashing or trolling. What I see is people saying it is what it is.

    Should we say everyone who praises it, wants one or owns one is fan boy?
     
  15. Ben86

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    That gun looks excellent, thanks for posting pictures.

    I think I'll be making one of those my first 1911. I was about to get a para, but if I can get a ruger for about the same price..
     
  16. rellascout

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    100% Ruger over the Para.
     
  17. ohwell

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    I can assure you scout I have not found anything wrong with my new SR1911 yet not even any hammer follow
     
  18. rellascout

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    Good for you. That would also be true for every single factory/stock 1911 I have ever owned. The one your comment is alluding to was a custom job which anyone who knows about 1911s can compromise long term reliability. One has to ask why you felt the need to bring that up? I guess your need to feel good about your choice in 1911s demanded it. If you like your Ruger why the need to lash out? <edit>

    How many rounds have been through the Ruger?

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  19. Resist Evil

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    Nakano, I will be looking forward to your range report. I appreciate your putting up the photos.
     
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    Made in the USA

    You know the major sell of this pistol to me is that is made in the USA not in some third world country by a twelve year old. Have a nice day.
     
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    It's easier and cheaper to do that when the frame is cast. Do you know of any forged frames that have integral plunger tubes?


    ohwell, this is fact finding mission and no one here is trying to imply that the Ruger is an inferior product. It is what it is and seems to be very good value for money. We should all be able to discuss it openly and truthfully without any egos getting in the way.
     
  22. Black Butte

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    Only problem is that the GP-100 will outlast the Python while digesting hotter rounds.
     
  23. Nakanokalronin

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    1858: Not off the top of my head, just cast like the type from Caspian. Companies could do it to a forged frame but I would be willing to bet the ones that would do it might charge another $200 just for that one feature. I know there was a company that did it with an aluminum frame but I can't remember who.
     
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    So what you are trying to say is if I offered to buy you one or the other you would choose the GP100? :neener:
     
  25. ohwell

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    I think the main point of the thread is to show the build quality and features of the gun I really like the one I bought its very comfortable at least for me I have only about a 100 rounds through mine now but it has been accurate and flawless with both ball and hollowpoints. Theres an old saying the prettiest bride doesnt always make the best wife same goes for guns the most expensive arent always the best.
     
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