Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Nakanokalronin, May 10, 2011.
A GP-100 will not outlast a properly maintained Python.
Well 100 rounds I guess that settles the issue. You have really put it through its paces and we can all declare it durable and of the highest quality and build....
Seriously I shoot more than 100 rounds a range session out of my 1911s. It is great you like it but at 100 rounds really how would you know what you have. You are ready to make claims about its reliability and durability based on 100 rounds. All 1911s feel comfortable to me, with the exception of double stack hybrids but really that does not translate to anything meaningful. The difference in the hand between one 1911 and another is not what separates one from another. How they look doesn't either. How many other 1911s do you own and what are you comparing the Ruger to? I am not trying to be rude. I think the Ruger for what it is will sell well and serve many people well but lets not make it more than it is. Seriously?
PS I like pretty women and pretty guns... YMMV
Nope, this is not what I said at all. What I did say was that unlike the Hyundai in your analogy, the GP-100 is actually a beefier and more sturdy revolver that wouldn't quickly depreciate relative to the Python as a result of simply the number of rounds fired.
Like 918V stated I am not sure your assessment is accurate. I think that properly maintain the Python is going to last longer than you and I will which honestly is all I can ask for. It is a lot like other hi-performance things. You are right about the Ruger. It depreciated just like the Hyundai very quickly as soon as you took it off the showroom floor. The Colt like the Lexus will hold its value. I have owned Colt 1911s that I shot a few thousands round through and then sold for what I paid for them NIB. There is no Ruger on the market you can do the same thing with.
Going back to cars. I own a 1998 Audi A8 which is as nice today as anything Hyundai is making. I also own a 1990 Mercedes 560SEC that is even nicer IMHO than the Audi. They require a lot of expensive maintenance but if I do my part they will both run to well over 200,000 miles.
I'll get back to you on this ... I have a Python that I bought new in '92 and I have two GP100s ... none of them are for sale!
Keep shooting and keep us informed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think that many are excited about the SR1911, because Ruger has a reputation for solid well built handguns that are reliable. The basic design of a 1911 is reliable, but not every manufacturer makes a reliable 1911.
I have ordered one, and I believe it will be a well made 1911. I base this upon Ruger's reputation with the vast majority of their products. My 1911 collection will increase by one taking the total up to eleven. They range from Norinco to Ed Brown.
When it does come in, I'll hit the range with no less than 200-300 rounds, and will have a great time.
I think that this will hold true. I do not expect the Ruger to be a Dog but I do not expect it to be a top of the line gun either. Ruger made its bones on solid work horse guns which are not always pretty. I think you understand what it is. It is not a Nork it is not an Ed Brown. It is somewhere in between and will meet the needs of big market segment who are not ready to pay top dollar but want a solid gun. That is the mentality I think of when I think Ruger.
At least with the SR1911 they started with an elegant design. I think they will sell well even if I don't buy one.....
To anyone who has one... What is the real world trigger pull weight?
brag brag brag this is about the Ruger sr1911 not some foolish way to say my stuff cost more than yours and looky looky what I got
Sorry trying to use analogies because you cannot seem to understand that the RUGER is what it is. Your ego is so wrapped up in the gun you bought you are unable to look at it objectively. Everyone else in this thread seems to be able to see it for what it is.
You did not answer the question. How many 1911s do you own... ? How does it compare to the rest of the collection?
The Ruger is my second 1911 I am more a fan of modern handguns but I do like it. I do know what the Ruger is because I actually have one . How many rounds do you have through yours? ahh you dont have one but your an expert. I believe you said in another thread you know just enough about 1911's to be dangerous. That in my humble opinion is the most honest thing you have ever said.
I would bet I have more than 100 rounds through my 1911s. I have not shot a Ruger. I have seen one but did not break it down because I did not own it. It looked like Ruger.... which is not necessarily a bad thing.
I know enough about how to put build & repair 1911's to be dangerous. Context.... brother context.
Please show me where I said the Ruger 1911 is not going to be a good seller or a good gun. All I have said is that it is what it is. It is a US made forged/cast/mim 1911. I have not read a review yet that listed enough rounds to consider it reliable, not that it is not going to be reliable.
Again you seem like you are really emotional attached to the Ruger brand.
To the OP. The pics look good. Keep us updated.
Not any more so than I am attached to my Brownings or My springfields I personally dont care for Glocks only because they dont feel right in my hand I do think they are good guns but you dont see me sneaking into all the Glock threads trying to stir things up in a snide way like a Eddie Haskel either.
Does anyone know if Ruger invested in MIM equipment?
Nice Ruger 1911.....I like it and The price point does not look like it is going to be to bad either.
I would have to say that I would not misplace my faith in mechanical devices! I trust Rugers, Taurus, I have not yet Aquired a Kimber just yet, but I will! I want an Eclipse actually!
Now I Just purchased a Taurus PT1911...all Total was $624 with shipping! A MIM part did fail on the firearm at round 16...The Slide Stop! It really did not anger me....a little disappointment...then I realized it was MIM...Gun was not inoperable! continued myn range time and was very happy! Functioned perfect.
Emailed Taurus They sent a replacement and I also ordered some aftermarket items that were perfect fit with no fitting time needed.
The point is I could have spent $1100 for a Kimber, A Colt, Etc etc.
Manufacturers have to cut cost and this is trying times for us all to stretch a dollar, it is how that manufacturer handles the learning curve that will or will not impress me, and I for one will rely on actual experience rather than here say.
Taurus handled the problem (for me) very satisfactory! very fast! and with apology!
I think Ruger will have great results with this 1911 and if I had seen one may have bought it over a Taurus? Looks like they are going to come in around $700.00 and that will be a good thing.
Again Very Nice Ruger! And its nice to see Made In The USA on something! ( I know Im a Taurus Fan!!! But I also am a Colt Fan, Browning Fan, etc. etc. Its nice to see it on the gun)
Thanks op. Like many other posters here, The sr1911 will also be my first 1911 just as soon as I get some free cash.
I think their projected sweet spot is $600. I think that is what they will settle to and should sell well.
thanks relascout.... I was just looking on gunbroker and they were kinda here and there $650-$725...bidding wars for the NEW toy has begun...lol
Its a Ruger it is bound to do well!
Early adopters pay a premium.
You know rellascout, not everyone thinks Lexus, Audi or Mercedes are the best things going. You might reconsider the car analogies. Also, strong opinions on materials, brands, and features are a positive thing, but gun snobbery isn't quite so nice. Not everyone wants or needs a $2,000 1911 when a lower priced alternative will meet their needs just as well.
I like the idea of the new Ruger. A reasonably priced 1911 that is American made and demonstrates a level of quality not found in other guns in its price range is a win for all gun owners. Who knows, maybe it will even help open up that market to a little bit of real competition. That is a good thing for everyone.
I don't know if the Ruger will be a good gun or not, but it does come from a company that knows how to build serious firearms, and probably the most durable firearms in their respective categories. Ruger will back this gun up with outstanding customer service as well. This gun could be a major draw for a lot of people.
Now, if only they made a bobbed version....
When I see a beautiful firearm like that, made by my favorite firearm company, and then realize that it is not available for purchase in California -- well, it really makes me wonder about this screwed-up state....:banghead:
I never said this either. Rather than trying to put the words in my mouth that fit your assumptions, you may want to reread my posts.
That's what I was thinking, once the initial fervor dies down a bit. It looks like a really good gun for the price, like most Rugers.
I don't remember exactly what the requirements are for a new gun to be legal in CA. I guess it would need a physical loaded chamber indicator, mag disconnect, series 80 drop safety and maybe a lot of other things. Unfortunately, all of that on a 1911 would make a gun no one in the other states would buy.
Impactguns has them listed at 629.99. Granted, that is a wait list.
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