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336w - .30-30 - Split shoulders on cases

I bought a used 336w in .30-30. The rifle looks brand new. Shooting Winchester factory ammo - the case wall splits at the shoulder - a short 1/4" split running up the shoulder, not around the case....

Thoughts? A bad box of ammo or do you think this is an indication of a problem with the rifle.

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Joel and Jonathon, I'll defer to others here for answers to you questions. Won't venture an opinion on those.

Tarheel, there are others in here more knowledgeable than me on your issues, too, but if it was me, I'd err on the side of caution and discuss that with a gunsmith before shooting again with different ammo.
 
Forgot to pop in and let y'all know that i managed to pick up a 1953 Marlin Texan in 35rem that is untapped! Plus it has a Williams peep sight, and 59 years of character on her.
 
Hey! Is the pool closed?

I found this thread while trying to learn about lever-actions, and found a wonderful wealth of info. But is that all there is? Where is everybody?
 
I took my 30AS out today, it came with the stock 1 pc scope base and cheap 4x fixed Tasco scope. After shouldering it a few times, I decided to take it all off and run iron sights. So much better, and now it handles and balances at the midpoint. Plus you can also grab it by the receiver to carry.

I belong in the camp that levers shouldn't have scopes. I might consider some Skinners or XS sights.
 
I'll put Skinners on mine.

I came into some cash yesterday.
A client paid for services in advance.

That cash will be used in several ways.
One is, I'm going to get my 336 shipped.

Go ahead. Ask if I'm excited.
 
dakOta...........
I have a Skinner on my M39 (rifle w/24" Oct bbl).....I know not 336 but same idea....and another carbine and they (the Skinner sights) are neat!....
 
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Not sure about my 39, Pine Cone. Depends on shipping and other costs and hassles. I've got to look into shipping my rifle again as I've forgotten the legal details. IIRC, it's easier than shipping a hand gun, but I can't remember the ins/outs. The guy who owns the space where it's in storage on the west coast is going to have to ship it to me over here. I don't remember if he has to dig out all the paper work showing that I'm the owner or not (that's also all in storage at his place).

Fortunately, I packed it into the original box for shipping before I left.

Also, what I'd like to do, actually, is ship it directly to a qualified smith to have it cut and crowned, then have him ship it to me. I had a smith picked out somewhere up in Montana or Idaho, and had bookmarked it, but the computer that was on died, and I've lost that info now. More research.

Worse news this morning: my heater in my room died last night. I'm cold again, and with the holidays on us, there's little chance I'll be able to get anything done about it until at least next week.

Great. My luck just won't hold.
 
My biggest fear about all this assault rifle madness is that some of the AR guys might figure out how great the 336 is and start buying up all the old JM marked Marlins.

All kidding aside, I just pick up an LTS. I am very happy right now.
 
Here ya go, not the best picture but....congrats nemo, put some lead down range and have some fun (is long over due for you)
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Yay. I can finally join the club after finally replacing a 336 lost in a fire back in my childhood. She's a project gun for my son and I. A victim of a tragic safe accident with a swollen, water damaged stock. It'll take some drying, sanding and refinishing but it is time well spent and I picked it up at a real deal.

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I wanted to go with skinner sights but it came with XS sights so I doubt I change them.

Looking for leather shooting slings. Anyone care to volunteer recommendations?


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caliCostie.....nice pic..thanks for posting.. looks like a nice honestly use rifle....wood looks to be really nice...does it have figure or is it a pic deception?
 
Thanks, CC. Wow! Beautiful rifle. Look at the deep rich color on that stock. Story?

Surfer, welcome in. Good on you for a rescue of a beautiful rifle. That stock will heal up well with your help and it'll shoot again. Please post pics when you're done.

Getting so excited about getting my 336 out here. A deposit will be made in my account mid next week. Going to take steps immediately after for shipping. If things go well on the other end (my friend who has it in storage at his place is a super busy person who travels a lot), I'll have it in my hands early in the new year.
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ETA: PS: turns out my heater is fine. I checked the user manual (written in "English is a second language" dialect from Scandinavia), and found that there's an 'overheat' switch that turns it off if it gets too hot. "Off", but it leaves the "on" light on, so you think it's working fine. Turning it off with the switch won't reset the "overheat switch". You have to physically unplug it for ten minutes, then plug it back in. It's fine. Still no clue why it bumped off, but it's working, and I'm super happy. It's sitting to my right as I type this.
 
surfer.....can't tell for sure from the pic but it looks like maybe you don't have a sight blank in the dovetail where the rear sight "was"....good idea to fill that in with one to keep from ruining that dovetail. Is it just the butt stock at the end that has the water damage??? rest of stock looks pretty good.

nem...good the heats back on....
 
Surfer, I meant to comment on this, but forgot.

I wanted to go with skinner sights but it came with XS sights so I doubt I change them.
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Changing them won't be a problem. Mine is wearing XS sights - I put them on - but I will replace them with Skinners when I get it here. You just need the right tools. Receiver is taped for both.
 
The sight blank is on order. I had to wait until I needed a few more things so I didn't pay shipping and special handling on a $4 part. ;)

I shot it with the XS Nem, I prefer skinners but it just isn't worth $80+ to swap out. At least not yet.

That stock is the only damaged part. But it is much worse than the pics look. The stock is slightly swollen at the rear so it means it will need drying, sanding back to shape and refinishing. Birch isn't the greatest for refinishing, but it'll do. Mainly it's just a project for my son and I. He enjoys the prep work like sanding , cutting and refinishing a 10/22 stock we recently did. Time well spent even if a replacement is only $65 or so. Worse comes to worse, I'll buy walnut front and rear and it will still cost me less than a new one.

Even if I just slap a leather butt ammo cuff on it, she's a keeper and a shooter. Finally have my redneck assault rifle back. It even looks sorta scary with a minuteman ammo cuff.

Where do you guys get that safety pin kit that eliminated the safety? That safety is horrendously ugly!

Oh, I'm ASSUMING the stock is swollen. The butt plate fit isn't even. My last marlin had a butt plate that fit even with no wood overhang around the end plate. I assume that's still true on newer marlins? I hope it is swollen,or that's some sloppy factory work!


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I also had a brain fart. I realized I have a gas heater in the garage. If you ever lived with gas heat, it really creates an arid environment and drys out your skin if you aren't accustomed to it. The heater is running and the stock hanging over the register to expedite the drying.




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Nem, the sorry behind the rifle is i was at a kinda gun show out here (just moved to se Alaska), got some dies from a gentleman, he took my number (was going to look for some brass he had floating stopping). While talking with him after he gave me the brass found out he had the Marlin, was in the process selling off his collection(diagnosed with terminal cancer). Told him i was interested if he was going to sell the Marlin (it was his go to deer rifle), he called me back about a month later said he had this one and a 53? Marlin 39a mountie, if i was interested. Set up a meet he only brought the 336 (said the 39 he had forgotten was spoken for his grandson, i assured him that was fine). He had picked the 336 up in 54 i believe.
Whew, well glad to hear your hat is back on.
 
Surfer, thanks for explaining. Totally understand. Project with your son is an awesome way to deal with that stock, and knowing you can pick up walnut furniture if it doesn't work out. Excellent.

CC, wow, did you get lucky or what?! A 54 336. I gasp at the thought. Congrats!

Minor suggestion: your spell checker kicked you - replace "sorry" with "story" and "hat" with "heat". (Don't you hate it when that happens?)
 
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