JustsayMo
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With the hammer down I believe it will move.
The 336 Club
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Northpack
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Thanks MO.
My Apologies for my bad manners.
My name is Ed from northern NH.
What a great thread. I have been reading from the first post (up to pg.51 so far) and have received great info.
My hats off to NEM for founding the thread and his fast responses to all that have joined and written in and making each one feel at home here. "Behind every great thread there is a great man." Thanks NEM
For nubies like me this is an invaluable service. Thanks also, to all the charter members like MO and so many others who continue to monitor and give feedback. I realize it is hard to stay tuned after a couple of years but thanks for hanging in to answer questions for us amateurs.
Just purchased my 336A w/scope from Dick's (364-35 rebate=$329)
Will use mine for hunting and PP.
It is a direct result of this thread that I purchased a Marlin 30-30. Your loayalty to this rifle is amazing.
I will use info I have read to site, select ammo, maintain, customize and sleep with (ha) my 336A.
Thanks again for your devotion to this site. It has helped me and I am sure many others who may not respond.
Thanks, Ed (Northpack)
My Apologies for my bad manners.
My name is Ed from northern NH.
What a great thread. I have been reading from the first post (up to pg.51 so far) and have received great info.
My hats off to NEM for founding the thread and his fast responses to all that have joined and written in and making each one feel at home here. "Behind every great thread there is a great man." Thanks NEM
For nubies like me this is an invaluable service. Thanks also, to all the charter members like MO and so many others who continue to monitor and give feedback. I realize it is hard to stay tuned after a couple of years but thanks for hanging in to answer questions for us amateurs.
Just purchased my 336A w/scope from Dick's (364-35 rebate=$329)
Will use mine for hunting and PP.
It is a direct result of this thread that I purchased a Marlin 30-30. Your loayalty to this rifle is amazing.
I will use info I have read to site, select ammo, maintain, customize and sleep with (ha) my 336A.
Thanks again for your devotion to this site. It has helped me and I am sure many others who may not respond.
Thanks, Ed (Northpack)
ECVMatt
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Welcome Aboard Ed!
You made a sound choice with the 336. They are simply great rifles. I have lots of other types of rifles, enjoy my 336's the best. Watch out for Marlinitist. Once you get one, there is a strong tendency to get more.
Have fun,
Matt
You made a sound choice with the 336. They are simply great rifles. I have lots of other types of rifles, enjoy my 336's the best. Watch out for Marlinitist. Once you get one, there is a strong tendency to get more.
Have fun,
Matt
oldrevolverguy
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Father and son 336
I set up a Marlin 336C 30-30 for my 8 year old son (he is now 10). It has a Ram Line Cadet stock with a 1" thick cheek piece for a perfect check weld with the Weaver 1X3 scope. It shoots 1.5" 100 yard groups with Hornady Lever Revolution ammo. It fits my son to a T and he has practiced to the point that he is carrying a lot of confidence into his doe hunt next weekend. I had him shoot a few rounds with my 336C in 35 Remington with a Leupold VXII 2X7. We will bring it along as his backup gun. He put two rounds touching at 50 yards. He is good to go. With any luck I will be posting photos of him with his 336 and his first doe next week.
I set up a Marlin 336C 30-30 for my 8 year old son (he is now 10). It has a Ram Line Cadet stock with a 1" thick cheek piece for a perfect check weld with the Weaver 1X3 scope. It shoots 1.5" 100 yard groups with Hornady Lever Revolution ammo. It fits my son to a T and he has practiced to the point that he is carrying a lot of confidence into his doe hunt next weekend. I had him shoot a few rounds with my 336C in 35 Remington with a Leupold VXII 2X7. We will bring it along as his backup gun. He put two rounds touching at 50 yards. He is good to go. With any luck I will be posting photos of him with his 336 and his first doe next week.
JustsayMo
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Oldrevolverguy, Looking forward to your report next week.
Ed: I think you'll be happy with your choice. Many of us seem to keep coming back again and again to them after flings with other firearms. The Marlin 336 is about as good a general purpose rifle as I can imagine.
Ed: I think you'll be happy with your choice. Many of us seem to keep coming back again and again to them after flings with other firearms. The Marlin 336 is about as good a general purpose rifle as I can imagine.
JustsayMo
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38-55: The other 336 caliber
There is a possibility I going to come into possession of another 336... Just sold two... They are like boomerangs.
The difference is this one is in 38-55.
Anyone who has followed this thread knows I like the 30-30 for its versatility, accuracy and economy. Just the other week I bragged to a friend how I had consolidated calibers down to four (22, 30, 357 & 45) Well... that oughta teach me...
This was unplanned, the result of unprotected gun handling most likely. Next thing I know a hot looking 336 in 38-55 appears and I'm all smitten. Previously I've always thought it impractical and expensive. After some research my tune has changed about the impractical part and by casting and rolling my own I think I can load nearly as inexpensively as 30-30 with the exception of having to buy the brass.
There are a few mentions of the 38-55 in this thread and I'm hoping to spark some more discussion about it, especially in regard to the Marlin 336. Anyone with any experience, observations or myths about them care to weigh in?
There is a possibility I going to come into possession of another 336... Just sold two... They are like boomerangs.
The difference is this one is in 38-55.Anyone who has followed this thread knows I like the 30-30 for its versatility, accuracy and economy. Just the other week I bragged to a friend how I had consolidated calibers down to four (22, 30, 357 & 45) Well... that oughta teach me...
This was unplanned, the result of unprotected gun handling most likely. Next thing I know a hot looking 336 in 38-55 appears and I'm all smitten. Previously I've always thought it impractical and expensive. After some research my tune has changed about the impractical part and by casting and rolling my own I think I can load nearly as inexpensively as 30-30 with the exception of having to buy the brass.
There are a few mentions of the 38-55 in this thread and I'm hoping to spark some more discussion about it, especially in regard to the Marlin 336. Anyone with any experience, observations or myths about them care to weigh in?
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AStone
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Welcome in Oldrevolverguy & Ed. And Ed, thanks much for the kind comments.
Yes, this club (thread) has been a great project for all of us; I'm so glad it's of value to so many.
Mo, this is interesting news about the 38-55. I look forward to learning more about it, and seeing pictures <ahem> of your new rifle.
I know nothing about 38-55, but found this little starter article on the infamous Wikipedia.
Yes, this club (thread) has been a great project for all of us; I'm so glad it's of value to so many.
Mo, this is interesting news about the 38-55. I look forward to learning more about it, and seeing pictures <ahem> of your new rifle.
I know nothing about 38-55, but found this little starter article on the infamous Wikipedia.
Added by edit: I just checked the Marlin site, but find no reference to .38-55. Am I missing something, or is the Wiki article incorrect?
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JustsayMo
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I believe the most recent 38-55 offering came in the form of 336 Cowboy. The 336 Cowboys were offered in 30-30 between 1999-2001 (I believe) and command a premium on Gun Broker (An unfired example recently went for $960 http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=141186351 ). The 38/55 336 Cowboys were produced until a few years ago.
Most recently Marlin has been offering a "Cowboy Conversion" on more recent vintage 336's. For less than $350 they replace the barrel, sights and fore stock with a 24" octagon barrel. I'm waiting for mine to arrive
Speaking of Marlin Cowboys our monthly silhouette match switches to Rifle Caliber in November (we do rimfire & pistol caliber from May - Oct) so I took the cousin of my 336, the 1895CB out to the range to get sighted in. Using a 405 grain cast bullet and pushing it with SR 4759 to 1454 fps (average, SD of 6.4 ) this baby tips over the 200 yard Rams with authority. Using a 150 yard zero - which in this rifle is 2 notches down from the top on the elevator ramp - I can hold top of back on the 200 yard Rams, dead on the 150 yard Turkeys, just under the belly for the 100 yard Boars and at the feet of the 50 yard Chickens. I hope we get some good weather for it!
Most recently Marlin has been offering a "Cowboy Conversion" on more recent vintage 336's. For less than $350 they replace the barrel, sights and fore stock with a 24" octagon barrel. I'm waiting for mine to arrive
Speaking of Marlin Cowboys
our monthly silhouette match switches to Rifle Caliber in November (we do rimfire & pistol caliber from May - Oct) so I took the cousin of my 336, the 1895CB out to the range to get sighted in. Using a 405 grain cast bullet and pushing it with SR 4759 to 1454 fps (average, SD of 6.4 ) this baby tips over the 200 yard Rams with authority. Using a 150 yard zero - which in this rifle is 2 notches down from the top on the elevator ramp - I can hold top of back on the 200 yard Rams, dead on the 150 yard Turkeys, just under the belly for the 100 yard Boars and at the feet of the 50 yard Chickens. I hope we get some good weather for it!Northpack
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Mo,
On your post #1821 pg.73, you mentioned Oregon Trail Laser-Cast 30 Cal.
170 gr. ammo. Can that ammo be used for hunting???
On your post #1821 pg.73, you mentioned Oregon Trail Laser-Cast 30 Cal.
170 gr. ammo. Can that ammo be used for hunting???
JustsayMo
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I have not shot anything bigger than a grouse with that bullet/load. I wouldn't recommend it for Deer as the wound channel would probably be <1/2" without an exit, tracking without a lot of blood would most likely be required... unless you make a CNS shot which is risky and requires marksmanship AND knowledge of deer anatomy.
It wouldn't be my first choice but I bet it would do the job in a pinch/survival situation. Poachers shoot a lot of deer with 22's and more than one garden raiding deer made it to the table by the hand of my Great Aunt with a well placed shot from her 22. That load is similar velocity with a bullet that weighs 4x more and half again as wide could reasonably be expected to perform better.
One of the reasons I like the load is that is very accurate and inexpensive to shoot. Due to the low cost one could shoot a lot and become very proficient with that load. For deer hunting, I'd want to get it going faster though - to the original 30-30 velocities would be a lot better.
It wouldn't be my first choice but I bet it would do the job in a pinch/survival situation. Poachers shoot a lot of deer with 22's and more than one garden raiding deer made it to the table by the hand of my Great Aunt with a well placed shot from her 22. That load is similar velocity with a bullet that weighs 4x more and half again as wide could reasonably be expected to perform better.
One of the reasons I like the load is that is very accurate and inexpensive to shoot. Due to the low cost one could shoot a lot and become very proficient with that load. For deer hunting, I'd want to get it going faster though - to the original 30-30 velocities would be a lot better.
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walker944
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Well hell, if Marlin would make the 336 in a .44 magnum with a pistol grip I'd be a card-carrying, dues-paying member of this club. I guess I'll have to get a 1894, but damn I wish it came in the 336 styling.
Quentin
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My first rifle was the 336C, got it at a Globe Shopping City store in Mesa AZ in 1971. Still have it and never had a single problem from it. Even the Marlin scope that came with it still works.
walker944
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Yeah, I've heard that, but finding one is not an easy task. I believe I heard they discontinued due to some issues with the action and problems feeding of the ammo. It seems I recall reading several websites where folks have gotten them to work correctly with fairly simple do-it-yourself fixes. I'd love to be one of those that have successfully pulled off the fix.
JustsayMo
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The Soup Can - reloaded
I finally got around to loading the "Soup Can" for 30-30. Lee mold, 113 grain RNFP w/ Gas Check
I cast these last spring, lubed and gas checked them... then sat waiting for too long. It's a good looking little bullet with a reputation for accuracy.Hopefully these will make it out to the range by the weekend. With any luck the weather will hold out and I'll run them over the chronograph too. The powders I'm going to try are Red Dot (subsonic load), SR 4756 and 2400 (moderate loads) and if I can find some data for a rifle powder a higher velocity load. I'll post the results ASAP.
I finally got around to loading the "Soup Can" for 30-30. Lee mold, 113 grain RNFP w/ Gas Check
I cast these last spring, lubed and gas checked them... then sat waiting for too long. It's a good looking little bullet with a reputation for accuracy.Hopefully these will make it out to the range by the weekend. With any luck the weather will hold out and I'll run them over the chronograph too. The powders I'm going to try are Red Dot (subsonic load), SR 4756 and 2400 (moderate loads) and if I can find some data for a rifle powder a higher velocity load. I'll post the results ASAP.
Cajun
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Hey guys just checking in.Haven't talked to ya'll in a while.Been getting ready for the whitetail season(gun) it opens up this Saturday.Don't you know I'll be takin the Marlins gonna start the season out with my 308mx then im gonna greak out the 336c in 30-30 and then I'm gonna get one with the 444s and hopefully a couple of hogs will fall to the 444 to.
JustsayMo
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Cajun, we expect a full report when you get back. Good luck!
JustsayMo
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I would grab a box or two of the ammo you intend to use in the rifle and get down to the range. I would start at the 25 yard line shoot two shots (aiming at the same spot) and make adjustments to get it close to right on. Confirm with two more shots and adjust and reconfirm if necessary. Once I'm on I would then move to the 50 and 100 yard to confirm point of impact (usually a bit high using a 25yard zero). Then I would dial it in to the range/POI I want.
After that's all done I go try it out on the 200 and 300 yard dingers just for the fun of it...
After that's all done I go try it out on the 200 and 300 yard dingers just for the fun of it...
Northpack
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Humor is the best medicine.......
Being new to this site, I started reading from Nem's 1st post.
The info here is amazing, especially from the old salts.
BUT, this site has another invaluable ingredient....HUMOR !!!!!
For a blue-collar stiff like me who is battered and broken when he gets home from work, nothing soothes the soul like good humor. Thus, I draw your attention to 2 posts that made the memories of a bad day at work just melt away.
Post #1613 by MO on pg. 64 (approx.) Mo relates a story about shooting a grouse with a deer gun..a .243 I think. He says....
"....the upside was he was already gutted and cooked when he picked him up...." My wife asked if I was OK because I was laughing so hard.
and Nem on post # 1634 pg. 65 makes a comment regarding the picture in the previous post. Nem has a picture of Gunnie saying.." Maybe we can wipe that dandruff off da' barrel...." I couldn't catch my breath, I was laughing so hard.
If you haven't read them take a look as my post does not do them justice....
I just want to say...thanks for taking the edge off my bad day. You guys could make a fortune writing comedy for Leno.
Being new to this site, I started reading from Nem's 1st post.
The info here is amazing, especially from the old salts.
BUT, this site has another invaluable ingredient....HUMOR !!!!!
For a blue-collar stiff like me who is battered and broken when he gets home from work, nothing soothes the soul like good humor. Thus, I draw your attention to 2 posts that made the memories of a bad day at work just melt away.
Post #1613 by MO on pg. 64 (approx.) Mo relates a story about shooting a grouse with a deer gun..a .243 I think. He says....
"....the upside was he was already gutted and cooked when he picked him up...." My wife asked if I was OK because I was laughing so hard.
and Nem on post # 1634 pg. 65 makes a comment regarding the picture in the previous post. Nem has a picture of Gunnie saying.." Maybe we can wipe that dandruff off da' barrel...." I couldn't catch my breath, I was laughing so hard.
If you haven't read them take a look as my post does not do them justice....
I just want to say...thanks for taking the edge off my bad day. You guys could make a fortune writing comedy for Leno.
AStone
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It's been a hellacious week at work (mostly in a good way, but damn, too much of a good thing ain't good), so I'm behind in here (where I'd rather be spending a lot more time, between trips to the range where I'd also like to be spending time). I'll catch up by weekend.
For now, just this: Northpack, your post made my morning. I laughed when I read it, but know it's laughing with you, not at you.
I agree: humor is a hugely important element, especially in these ... trying and challenging times.
Glad you've joined us.
Hey, Mo: I think we should consider co-writing our application letter to Leno, 'cause I'm definitely ready to make a fortune.
I think there mut be room on prime time for some good gun humor, right?
For now, just this: Northpack, your post made my morning. I laughed when I read it, but know it's laughing with you, not at you.
I agree: humor is a hugely important element, especially in these ... trying and challenging times.
Glad you've joined us.
Hey, Mo: I think we should consider co-writing our application letter to Leno, 'cause I'm definitely ready to make a fortune.
I think there mut be room on prime time for some good gun humor, right?
JustsayMo
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Nem, we can set our (336) sights even higher and get our own show. Heck, look at the numbers you've drawn here. Guaranteed ratings!
I'm certain with all the contributors to this in this thread there are enough "Hold my beer and watch this" stories on which to base hundreds of episodes.
PapaJohn, do you think the "No Hair Club for Men" would be interested in sponsoring the pilot?
I'm certain with all the contributors to this in this thread there are enough "Hold my beer and watch this" stories on which to base hundreds of episodes.
PapaJohn, do you think the "No Hair Club for Men" would be interested in sponsoring the pilot?
Sheepdog1968
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Howdy all,
I just recently purchased a new 336 C and had the XS sights installed. It has to be the most beautiful rifle I own with those classic lines. Please let me join the club. Of course, I now want to get a side by side shotgun and a 45 long colt revolver.
I do have two questions.
What is the recoil of a 30 30 like? Is it more, less, on par with an M1A? Is it more, less, on par with a 12 gauge pump shotgun? I will know soon enough.
About where do you zero it at 25 yards so it is on at 100 yards? I have an indoor range I can go to sooner than the outdoor range.
Many thanks.
I just recently purchased a new 336 C and had the XS sights installed. It has to be the most beautiful rifle I own with those classic lines. Please let me join the club. Of course, I now want to get a side by side shotgun and a 45 long colt revolver.
I do have two questions.
What is the recoil of a 30 30 like? Is it more, less, on par with an M1A? Is it more, less, on par with a 12 gauge pump shotgun? I will know soon enough.
About where do you zero it at 25 yards so it is on at 100 yards? I have an indoor range I can go to sooner than the outdoor range.
Many thanks.
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