Truths about shooting classes

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Most the classes I have been to are “lost brass”. If not, mark your brass! It is nice not to leave $50 of brass on the ground….
 
People are full of crap, if you attend enough courses there always your former military rambo. Their service in reality is only important to them but they feel they must share, congrats on YOUR personal choice.

Everything is a head shot guy

I did not know to load mags

Those who believe what they learn in the course will some how help them in real life.
(Your house has a greater statistical chance of burning to the ground than it does being burglarized )

I don't really actively attend training anymore because everything is centered around preparing for a world that just will not exist.

the 2A Is about fighting an oppressive tyrannical government. Our gov has never been crazier and the world where we need proficiency with firearms has never seemed closer
 
About brass, don't be the brass guy who holds up the class by scrounging around when you should be reloading, hydrating, going to the can, etc. Worse, wander into the lane of fire and get shot. Recall the famous USPSA or IPSC match with a brass plucker in the scenario.

The classed I've taken are grounded in realism for the civilian. I've found them useful in the real world.

Also, Taliv is right on with the Second Amendment. Look around the world where people looking for democracy are crushed by autocratic or religious regime police forces.
 
Recently attended a CCW class where everyone was shooting 9mm. after class I asked if anyone was going to collect the brass. No takers so I got it all.
 
Last class I took was S12 by Carry Trainer in Tenn. about 3 years back now.

I am retired LEO,and firearms instructor and D/T instr too.

So I went in with a 'tiny bit' of an attitude .

I came out with REAL KNOWLEDGE,of stuff I learned and still practice.

3 days of GREAT food,lots of pew pew time,new friends and RESPECT for the AMAZING instructors.

btw = I am now going on 74,so I was 71 at the time of that class.

I hope to return for another soon !.
 
Find out if they allow aluminum or steel cased ammo. Depending on locale, some don't. They don't want to have to clean it up and just trash it. Cleaning up brass, that's ok as it is reusable.

Bring extra boots. Blister stuff.
 
Take one class strong handed, and then the next year take it weak handed….
Good advice. I was scheduled to take an injured shooter class. Then a few weeks before. I fell down and broke my wrist, ribs and badly sprained my ankle. Took the class with just my dominant hand and forearm in a cast and my ankle in a gadget. I plan well. The late Paul Gomez told me I was a tough guy for doing that. Haha - just a FOG!
 
14. Leave your preconceived notions at the door and give the instruction a chance. There are always more than one way to “skin a cat”.
18. Shut up. You ain't the expert to argue with the expert. If you really disagree, leave.
And it is possible to know more than the instructor does; if you decide to argue with him during the class, you better be prepared to back yourself up.

People are full of crap, if you attend enough courses there always your former military rambo. Their service in reality is only important to them but they feel they must share, congrats on YOUR personal choice.
If it's a combat-experienced soldier, I always listen to what they have to say, because it came from real-world shooting situations and not from a book. There's real truth to be learned from someone who's been shot at. I understand what you're saying, though, about the "been there, done that, and begged for more" attitude some wannabe's have.
Those who believe what they learn in the course will some how help them in real life.
(Your house has a greater statistical chance of burning to the ground than it does being burglarized )
But both can happen, if not at the same time, and I'd like to be prepared for either one, although the contents of my safe wouldn't do much to put out a fire.
I don't really actively attend training anymore because everything is centered around preparing for a world that just will not exist.
Depends on the class you're attending, and what's being taught.

One wonders what Hong Kong would look like if they had as many guns as we do
Either: 1-There wouldn't be nearly as many people living in Hong Kong as there are now, or, 2- They'd be a helluva lot nicer to each other.
 
And it is possible to know more than the instructor does; if you decide to argue with him during the class, you better be prepared to back yourself up.

That could be true. However, most of the time I've seen the opposite from some opinionated guy. I'd let it go and talk to the instructor after class, during lunch, rather than disrupt the class - except in extremis. Like if the guy says, shoot him outside and drag him inside. Write an AAR later if you need to on a reputable site for such.
 
That could be true. However, most of the time I've seen the opposite from some opinionated guy. I'd let it go and talk to the instructor after class, during lunch, rather than disrupt the class - except in extremis. Like if the guy says, shoot him outside and drag him inside. Write an AAR later if you need to on a reputable site for such.
I'd probably just get up and walk out if I had an instructor who said that, and let my action be the rebuttal. I've been an instructor myself (NRA pistol, shotgun and rifle, CRSO, as well as a state licensed CC instructor), don't do it any more (no time), and I've learned things I didn't know from some of my students. I've also been in classes where my experience base (both military and law enforcement) tells me that what the teacher said wasn't exactly correct, or was contrary to what I'd been taught elsewhere. I won't call out a teacher in front of a class; it makes them look bad and makes me look like an a-hole, and it's unprofessional anyway. It's as much a person's approach to correct someone, as it is what they have to say and what they have to back up that knowledge. Opinion shouldn't be your "ammunition"; if you try to correct someone, it has to be reinforced with hard fact.
 
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