Wanded at the movie theater!

[birddog]

"Have you seen the special effects, these days? They jump right out at you. And those kid wizards are spooky. And I have a hard time distinguishing reality from entertainment. You can sit by me if you want..."

 

[Omaney]

Elk, great response and attitude. I hope I can use that line someday. Usually I am the guy that responds with **** (except to She Who Must Be Obeyed). I really like the roll your eyes and give the what a dumb a** response as well. I do not argue, especially with dip sh...oops almost did it again!

 

[joab]

Why would you volunteer any information to "security"? It does not matter that they were "cool". You have no obligation to tell them anything. Let them find it, then tell them if you feel you must.

Some people feel that it is better to inform before hand when it can be done calmly without the element of surprise or fear if an anti happens to be the one who wands you.

Sure they can't do anything legally but their response could possibly be problematic

Some feel that it is better to explain only if and after it is discovered

It's a judgment call, nothing fundamentally wrong with either response

 

[FieroCDSP]

What exactly did it say to you? Would you prefer they look for guns and harass legal CCWers?

Jorg, I was merely commenting on the fact that bottom line profit seems to be more important than physical security most places these days. No, I would not like some punk in an ushers suit grilling me about my piece, and I wouldn't expect anyone else to like it either. You're looking too far into it.

 

[230RN]

I call it the "Elaine Benes" syndrome, from the self-righteous sometimes do-gooder in the Seinfeld show.

I would have just let them wand me and show my permit if it was discovered. There have been several folks who got through wanding even though they were packing (as reported on PDO, no citation available.)

If further issues with the guards arose I'd ask to talk to the manager or someone. In this state, you cannot enter where there are permanently installed detectors. A wand isn't a permanent detector, in my book. If the higher-up in bona-fide authority (like the manager) wants to keep you out, you either ask for a refund or go park the weapon in your car. The former is more desirable, but if you've got a large party or this was that big an event for the family, I'd probably park it, but I'd still feel naked.

And after all, if they kept you out, they'd probably discover any armed ne'er-do-wells who tried to get in. After all, on seeing guards scanning everybody, any evildoers would probably turn around and go find another movie.

I think you were lucky in having well-trained "cool" guards.

Given that an Elaine Benes wannabe got wind of it, though, I would have just told her to mind her own business and walked away. With further persistence I'd have asked the guards or manager to ask her to quit bothering customers.

She has no right to disrupt your enjoyment. But, that's why I call it the Elaine Benes Syndrome. Elaine didn't care about trifles like courtly and polite behavior, either.

 

[.cheese.]

if you look in the Bible, the only folks JESUS ever yelled at were the folks who thought they were all that

LOL.... except I don't think it was worded that way. I don't recall it ever saying, "Dis mother was all that and a bag o chips... yo."

 

[geekWithA.45]

Q: Why do you carry a gun?
A: Because I can't carry a whole policeman.

 

[geekWithA.45]

Hold the phone!

AFAIK, wanding people, xrays, & metal detectors exceeds the normal authority granted to bizholders to inspect bags & packages ON THE WAY OUT for evidence of shoplifting.

 

[Xenia]

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Since you are not interested in what i think kindly put me on your ignore list.

No, there's no way I'd put you on my ignore list because I'm going to slam you every time you come on here and disparage and malign someone's character as less than honorable or less than a man. There is more honor and character among the men and women on this forum than you're capable of comprehending.


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You are not worth the effort.

Oh, I see. YOU are the ONLY one permitted to deem someone not worthy of the effort. We're not permitted to shut down a busybody FEMALE anti because doing so automatically deems us as anti-woman irrespective of the fact that you do NOT know any of us personally.


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There is 0 (zero) chance of you ever earning my respect with an anti woman attitude like that!

Again, you wrongly assume we wish to earn your respect. You are a character assassin spouting off at some of the most honorable folks in American society, and you managed to do so within your first ten posts. A CHP is a license to carry a concealed handgun; not a license to play male character police on a gun forum.

In a situation in public where someone is acting concerned about a gun that is conceiled they are demonstrating that they are afraid. A reply that is simply rude and hostile is not going to help in any manner.

I am asking you to stop insulting me unless you want to be called on it. And I am informing you that women bashing will be challenged.

I happen to really love men. I am a very heterosexual woman and I think men are fantastic. I am sorry if you have an issue with women.

 

[Elza]

Xenia: I am asking you to stop insulting me unless you want to be called on it. And I am informing you that women bashing will be challenged.

I will have to disagree with your assessment of this situation. You were the first to throw out the ‘insult’ and ‘bashing’ cards because you disagreed with what someone said. Disagreement and debate is fine but being insulting and demeaning will get very predictable results around here.

 

[joab]

And I am informing you that women bashing will be challenged.

"Bashing someone who happens to be a woman for making claims of woman bashing because someone, who happens to be a woman, makes an issue by sticking her nose into something that was not her concern is not woman bashing.

I was once called out on a forum for using the word coon while describing raccoons
I was told that it was a "ethnically insensitive word"
My response then was that it would take a simplistic racist to mistake that for a racist word

Just like it would take a misandrist to take comments directed at this woman, and your responses, as misogynistic

I'd ease up on the righteous indignation if you ever want to be taken seriously here

 

[FortyCalGlock]

My .02

In response to the badgering busy body, how about taking an example from mass media. "I have a firearm because when I walk through that dark parking lot tonight, I don't want to become a victim. I guess you won't mind becoming one though" and gone on my merry way. Nothing wrong with a little pro-gun fear mongering.

 

[akodo]

what about "Excuse me, Usher? this woman is harrasing me, I demand that you remove her."

 

[koja48]

Other than "freely offering-up" information, you did well. As tempted as I may have been to reply "That comes under the heading of my business," which I do & have used to put a gag on nosy people, in this instance in order to reinforce the fact that gun owners aren't aggressive nut-bags, I most likely would have emphasized that I had a permit & inalienable Constitutional rights, and am unwilling to be a helpless victim.

 

[BBQJOE]

I just remembered one a buddy used to use to shut down women like that.
*In a very raised voice*
"Respect you in the morning? Hell I don't even respect you now!"
*Walks away*

 

[BullfrogKen]

Elza said: I will have to disagree with your assessment of this situation. You were the first to throw out the ‘insult’ and ‘bashing’ cards because you disagreed with what someone said. Disagreement and debate is fine but being insulting and demeaning will get very predictable results around here.

I beg to differ. I don't see it that way.

I saw a plea for politeness and reasonable responses after a long contest to see who could outsmart-mouth one another. Xenia appeared to me to be merely pointing out that those smart-mouth answers, while they may feel good to throw around in here, fulfills a negative stereotype. She was jumped and labeled an anti-gunner for suggesting gentlemen don't talk to women that way, even those who beg for it.

I happen to agree with her.

You see, JWarren made the same call for temperence. But he wasn't attacked for suggesting we act like gentlemen. Nor was his marital status called into question.

I wonder why that is. . . .


Xenia. Welcome to The High Road. I hope you get a better reception on the other threads you participate in.

 

[Larry Ashcraft]

Sorry folks, I'm gonna pull rank on BFKen and close this one. I just read the last page and this definately isn't the High Road.

Xenia, welcome to THR. I hope this experience won't chase you away. We need good female members here.

Those of you who got PMs from Ken had better heed what he said to you, that is, the ones of you who are still around.

Lights out.