Weekend Report of Open Carrying

[230RN]

Aguila Blanca

Originally Posted by Alphazulu6
Good for you. I unfortunately waived my open carry rights when I got my permit. Kind of strange but is the rules I guess.

Could you expand on that just a bit? Are you saying that in Colorado if you have a concealed carry permit you may NOT carry open, even in locations where those without said permit CAN carry open? That's what I'm getting from your statement, and it doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense. That's saying that because you may now carry concealed you must now carry concealed.

Ditto on that question.

I know Jefferson County discourages open carry, and I can respect that (I'm sure they don't need any extra calls) but did the Legislature slip that in somewhere while I wasn't looking?

I gotta admit I didn't read all of the new SB34 law because my blood pressure was getting too high, so did they stick it to us there?

Like, what if I want to run around the fields and forests and unincorporated areas (not hunting, just running around) with an open sidearm?

Most of the time I carry "Indifferently Concealed," as Standing Wolf puts it, so don't tell me that in this hot weather I've got to stuff it in my salty sweaty jockstrap.

 

[Dimensio]

Hmm. I've open carried very rarely (in the same city as you!) when I misplaced my concealed carry holster, but never had any reaction of any kind (though I didn't really go to many places). I might try it again sometime.

 

[burkspatrick]

this is a reponse to the poster about OC and cops in TN. No offense to cops and law enforcement but I've had some bad experiences(which I personally don't want to go into) with TN cops. That sounds about right.

 

[dasmi]

Open carried in AZ numerous times, no trouble at all. One young pimply faced gas station attendant did give me the stink eye, but that's about it. Of course, it was 3 AM. Also open carried in NM once without trouble.

 

[kellyj00]

I'm not a bad guy, but if I were the biggest threat is the police, the second is a guy with a gun.... I wouldn't mess with them. Open Carry is a good idea if you're afraid of mugging.

Again, I'm not a bad guy, but if I were the second biggest threat is the guy with a gun... if I'm going to do my dirty deeds anyway, I'm going to eliminate these threats before getting down to business.

Furthermore, I'm not a bad guy....so I don't know how they think. I have a concealed carry permit so I have the element of surprise on my side in any situation. If a crack head with a gun wants to rob a shop owner, I'm not necessarily going to have to kill him just because he threatened someone else... if he sees that I'm carrying too, he's going to shoot me first because he KNOWS that I'm a threat, and the shop keeper isn't necessarily.

Is it a deterrant or a hinderance? We'll never know unless we all start doing it, and frankly, I think it's a darned good idea. If two open carry's are in a gas station at once, the BG is going to know one thing for certain.... the odds are definitely not in his favor of getting out of there.

 

[FieroCDSP]

I read on packing.org that it is a felony to touch your gun in the presence of a police officer in Ohio.

Yes, but why are you touching your gun when you're being stopped by the police anyway? If it's a matter of your wallet being on the same side as your sidearm, tell them so, and when they tell you take it slow (they will), do so. They can't arrest or shoot you for incidental contact with your gun as you're reaching for your wallet which is exactly where you told them it is. That wouldn't hold water in Ohio courts.

The biggest problem I see in Ohio OC law is that you can only do it while on foot. You cannot transport in a vehicle a loaded firearm in the state of Ohio, unless you're licensed CCW holder and it's your carry piece, on your person. That means, if you're going to OC, it'll be in your neighborhood, or you'll have to get out of the car, open your trunk, unlock your gun, load up, and carry...Then reverse it all when you're going elsewhere. It's not very practical.

I think all of it shows that despite the improvements, Ohio still has a long way to go.

 

[SomeKid]

Around here I think OC would get you slammed to the ground by cops from either local law enforcement branch. In my carry permit class it was stressed hard to keep it concealed for the reasons I opened with.

If cops did that to you in Tennessee, it would be like winning the lottery. TN is OC friendly. I know. I do it. A lot.

Regarding cops, I have only been OCing once when around a cop, and all he did was look at it, look me square in the eyes for a few seconds, and nod. Not a word. No ask for ID, no request/demand. Looked me in the eyes, nodded, and it was done.

Some cops ARE ignorant of the law. But slammed to the ground? Don't be silly. There are bad/dumb cops in TN, but having cops THAT dumb is only a dream, (yes a dream, because it would be worth the bad treatment for what the lawsuit would recover).

 

[SSN Vet]

this thread has me thinking....

I've carried conceled for a year and a half.....but in the summer, I find I don't carry nearly as much do to wardrobe.

Yet I live in an open carry state.

My biggest concern with OC would be a gun grab by some idiot teen ager while waiting in line someplace.

 

[ky_man]

I live in Louisville, and I have seen quite a few people open carrying, both in and out of the city.

I've seen one person lately at Mall St. Matthews (perhaps that was you!) and a couple others in the south end.

There are several convenience/gas stations where the employees/owners open carry, most notably the Short Stop on 22 before Pewee Valley.

 

[GILROY]

Open carry is some parts of Atlanta would likely increase your chances of getting shot in the back or clubed from behind with the express intention of stealing your openly displayed firearm. I personally would rather keep the element of surprise on my side. I don't see where any tactical advantage is gained by open carry in public places. Yes, it could discourage a crime or two, but it is more likely to give a perp the advantage of KNOWING you are armed and initiating a more vicious attack first.

 

[vis-à-vis]

I live right near Mall St. Matthews, so perhaps it was.

 

[Oleg Volk]

Legal in TN and good for acclimating others. The problem is that too many places are off limits to legal carry.

 

[Dimensio]

I was told to avoid the Mall St. Matthews when carrying, concealed or otherwise. I ignore the concealed part, but you had no problems open carrying there?

 

[Essex County]

I live in a rural area.........

My state and the neighboring state have no restrictions on open carry. It's not rare to see open carry from bear season to the end of the year. I don't think much about it, but sometimes I'll duck into a retail bussiness in the course of the day. Most folks don't even notice and those that do don't get upset at all. One exception was a women from Mass. that was clearly upset and called my attention to the manager of a Mini Mart She left and a chuckle was had by all. I don't really enjoy upseting the sheeple......Essex

 

[Chipperman]

Question, MA (my state) this map claims is a "licensed open carry" state.

The map is wrong. You cannot carry open in MA. You MUST be licensed and it MUST be concealed.

 

[vis-à-vis]

I was told to avoid the Mall St. Matthews when carrying, concealed or otherwise. I ignore the concealed part, but you had no problems open carrying there?

No sir, none. I'm going there tomorrow and plan on open carrying. Specifically I am visiting Panera Bread. There was a thread a while back about a particular Panera Bread prohibiting CCDW, and I said I would carry next time I went. Well tomorrow is next time and I want to see for myself. But There are no signs anywhere in that mall which preclude firearms.

 

[Blackbeard]

Open carry is some parts of Atlanta would likely increase your chances of getting shot in the back or clubed from behind with the express intention of stealing your openly displayed firearm. I personally would rather keep the element of surprise on my side. I don't see where any tactical advantage is gained by open carry in public places. Yes, it could discourage a crime or two, but it is more likely to give a perp the advantage of KNOWING you are armed and initiating a more vicious attack first.

Yes, I wouldn't openly carry a $500 pistol any more than I'd openly carry $500. In some areas you're just asking for trouble. Surprise is more valuable than any weapon.

 

[Majic]

I don't see where any tactical advantage is gained by open carry in public places. Yes, it could discourage a crime or two, but it is more likely to give a perp the advantage of KNOWING you are armed and initiating a more vicious attack first.

It's funny how that is often brought up, but I never see it happening anywhere.

 

[Dimensio]

No sir, none. I'm going there tomorrow and plan on open carrying. Specifically I am visiting Panera Bread. There was a thread a while back about a particular Panera Bread prohibiting CCDW, and I said I would carry next time I went. Well tomorrow is next time and I want to see for myself. But There are no signs anywhere in that mall which preclude firearms.

Any particular time? Maybe I'll come and watch. And try for myself.

 

[30 cal slob]

are there any stats as to how many armed security guards (who open carry) get jumped for their gun?

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[SomeKid]

As slob asked, I shall repeat, can anyone show me an example of an OCing person attacked because they were carrying a gun?

Lets cut straight to the heart of the matter, anyone who doesn't OC BECAUSE they are afraid of being stabbed/clubbed is not OCing because they are a simple coward. Anyone who comes into a thread like this and tries to press those of us who do OC into not OCing are both trolls, and likely cowards.

(If you do not OC because you are simply less comfortable carrying that way, cannot due to law, or you truely believe concealed is a better option, the above does not apply to you. I am just sick and tired of morons who haven't got the balls to exercise their God-given constitutionally affirmed rights coming on here, and lecturing me about the massive risk I am taking because after all, someone MIGHT attack me because I am OCing, even though they have no proof their blind and petty fears are real.)

 

[fletcher]

As slob asked, I shall repeat, can anyone show me an example of an OCing person attacked because they were carrying a gun?

I heard of one incident, which was posted here at THR a while back where someone came up behind an OCer, drew the gun, and killed the individual. I could not for the life of me remember where it happened, if it was credible, or anything else, but that's all I've heard about that sort of thing.


OC vs. CC is all personal preference IMO.

 

[TonyB]

Here inNY state OC is illegal..if it weren't would I do it..probably on occasion,but mostly not.Mostly because of how I dress it wouldn't be an issue.It would make "worrying" about printing less of an issue.....

 

[vis-à-vis]

Any particular time? Maybe I'll come and watch. And try for myself.

7pm. I'd sit and have coffee with you, but I have to meet a friend to discuss the writings of St. Augustin. His Confessions. Then I'm going to get a haircut to tame the beast on top of my head. You're more than welcome anyways, however. Sometimes it's weird being odd man out.