What is your "Lemon Gun/Guns" ?

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New Kimber 84M Longmaster Classic in .308. Chamber is very tight and spent cases sometimes need to be pushed out with a cleaning rod. Took it to the Kimber dealer/gunsmith a month ago, he said it would be ready in 2 weeks. Talked to him yesterday and he had forgotten that he even had it there. I hope he can fix it to the point that I can sell that overpriced rifle. It would seem that a rifle that retails north of $1,000 would be test fired before shipping.
 
I think the only gun I've got that I can complain about is my pre-PXT Para. It was reliable, at first, then the extractor started losing tension. I tuned it, and it ran fine for a while, but it lost tension again. Replaced with a Wilson BP extractor, and all was well.

Then it started rusting. I had it blasted, and pretty much treated almost like a blued gun. And it still rusted. Thinking about Melonite after the 'smith finishes the sight cut.

So far, that's about it. I dont think I've had an actual lemon.
 
I am not that happy with either of my ruger 22s, a 10/22 rifle or 22/45 pistol. Both are jam o matics. Love my ruger vaqueros though.

On the flip side I have developed a real skepticism about how some folks evaluate their firearms, especially the ones who weigh price heavily as a measure of quality. I do not have deep pockets so I tend to buy in the low to the medium priced brands. I do cowboy shooting and my 200 buck chinese coach gun made me happy and as far as I can tell does as well as some much more expensive models. For practice even my uber cheap F15 pot metal 22 revolver suits me.

I have 16 guns and no out and out lemons in the bunch.
 
Springfield

Bought new in the box, in 2002, a Springfield ACP .45 Loaded model. Literally could not hit the paper at 15 yards. Went through 2 clips then saw that the front sight was hanging half way off. Sent it off to Springfield. They restaked the front sight but left a big pig tail burr under the sight. Now shoots low.

Stove pipes every 30 rounds or so. Using different brands of clips, diffenent ammo. Had one brass that would not come out of the chamber. Used a brass rod to knock it out.

My glasses are all scratched up from random ejection angles. Ejects at full 90 degree radius.


Keep it by my bed. Keep an eye on it....
 
I've had a couple of guns that weren't so great out of the box, but after some work they're all perfectly reliable
 
1- AR-7 Survival rifle in any version. A defacto bolt action. Don't expect it to do anything right or be able to hit anything with it.

2- I'll join the AMT bashing.... .45 Hardballer. Out of the box would not shoot through a full mag of anything. After a bit of work will shoot ball ammo reliably but most hollowpoints stovepipe.
 
Century Arms .223 sporter...worst POS I ever bought new...ftf...fte...you name it after month and a half at the factory still ftf 4 times out of 25 rounds. Traded away for a Glock 20....
 
I"ve been lucky (knock on wood), I've only had one lemon -- even the guys at the gun shop said so (the factory refused to actually call it a lemon but more of a problem child). It was my SIG P220 - worst trigger ever. DA at 15+#, we ran out of weights on the scale! and the SA was at 9-1/2#'s. After a 10 week stay w/ the factory it came back mushier not lighter :cuss: Traded it away for my USP 45 & haven't looked back:barf:
 
bryco 9mm, take down button sheared of during shooting. luckily i saw rear of slide lifted up about 1/16" and was able to stop the shooter in time. while clearing the gun, the slide shot off backwards. could have hit him square in the face. that was after 250-300 rounds.
 
All of the really big lemons have been new guns:

AMT Hardballer Longslide: Not a straight part in it. Jam after jam.

AMT Back up 380: Amazingly heavy trigger pull, to the point your finger was totally exhausted after 1 mag!

FTL Auto 9: Blew the extractor on the second shot. Then again after it was replaced.

Colt Combat Commander: As bad as the AMT harballer, at over twice the price! They should have been ashamed of themselves for charging me for it. Colt's "service" dept just scratched it all up, and it never would shoot reliably. Last Colt I've owned.

There are more, but those are the worst of the bunch.
 
Taurus PT145 Millennium Pro. I loved the size and ergonomics of the gun but the damn firing pin broke after 80 rounds, needless to say I ditched it not willing to take a chance.
 
That other post reminded me of my Bryco .380. It shot reasonably well in that it would only stove pipe about 1 out of 50 or so and would hit a man size target at 50 yards. The issue was the cheapness of the bolt face/ slide. The more I shot it the more it would creep back. It would still go into battery because it would lock up with the fixed barrel. But it got to the point where the slide was extended past the barrel and the firing pin sleeve was extending from the rear of the slide by an 1/8 of an inch or so. Weird but it still shot....

And lest we forget the Tec-9. At 50 yards I could easily hit the target of the shooters in the lanes next to me. The gun never jammed though. I learned a good lesson on the value of perception. I paid less than $200 preban sold post ban for more than $400 four months later and now you can't give one away. Or can you? Would not surprise me if they were going for real money these days.....
 
I bought a Chinese clone of the Ithaca 37, figured it was pretty hard to mess up a pump action. I was wrong. Sometimes gets hung up chambering, sometimes the tube won't release a round. It sits in the safe waiting for the day I'm bored enough to try tinkering with it.
 
Wow, I'm surprised to see someone else with the same problem I had with a Para 12-45... Thing was one expensive paper-weight. I bought a Lorcin 22 dirt-cheap to play with, but I knew it was a ftf'er from the get-go. If any of you guys have this problem, use a chainsaw file:)
 
I guess out of everything I own...Sig, CZ, S&W, Ruger, KelTec, Mossberg, Saiga, NEF, Kahr...

Both of my CZ's have given me the most problems. I like them anyway.

Now guns I've *sold* that were garbage...Mossberg Plinkster, Marlin 60, Ruger MkIII 22/45, CZ 52, Henry AR-7.
 
Para P14-45. That thing would stovepipe/fte every 3rd round. I sent it back to the factory 2 or 3 times, I can't remember for sure, and they never could get it right. I will not own a Para to this day for that reason. They are too expensive for me to give them another chance.
 
Walther P22 and G22: never buy a gun made in a toy factory, just cause they have lefty controls.
 
Sig Mosquito was a big dissappointment and I was crazy enough to try it twice. Sure wish I would have held on to that Trailside.
 
Grendel P-10, the predecessor to today's Kel-Tec P3AT. A novel concept at the time (1989-ish) because of its 10 round capacity in such a small package, we cops thought it would make a good BU/OD piece.
First range experiences for most of us were chock full of stovepipe jams, FTEs, and foreheads covered with welts produced by those shells that did find the escape hatch. Some reported marked improvement after feed ramp polishings, but it was several years before I got around to it. The gun sat unused for many years, but I finally did work it over some and now it works. I don't use it as a carry piece, as I prefer either my much-later-acquired Bersa Thunder, or my older-than-the-Grendel CA Undercover. The little Grendel does, however, cling to 10 rounds of .380 JSPs, and takes its place as one of several stashaway pieces in my home..
 
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