What kind of man buys a Hi-Point?

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rageofangels said:
I'll sell you an import Titan Tiger .38 special for $170 bucks and you pay shipping to your FFL at cost, if you're willing. This is a tight revolver. If it is a bit lose, I'll give you your money back if you don't approve of it if you pay shipping back to me. Oh, and I'll be shipping it from Indiana, if you're interested. You've got to be patience in order to find a good deal. :D
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Too bad those will explode if loaded with hot 38 spl rounds, and HP's can use +P or +P+ rated ammo.
 
Illuminaughty said:
Too bad those will explode if loaded with hot 38 spl rounds, and HP's can use +P or +P+ rated ammo.
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You are exaggerating way too much. They can use hot .38 special rounds, but probably not +P or +P+ without significantly damaging the shot life of the firearm. They will not explode if used with +P rated ammunition but their shot life will be decreased incredibly. The reason why HPs are rated as being able to use +P and +P+ rated ammo is because they will probably just hand you a new firearm after this is broken. Plus, revolvers have no problems with eating hollow-points. In addition, what Hi Point takes .38 special? :neener:
 
rageofangels said:
You are exaggerating way too much. They can use hot .38 special rounds, but probably not +P or +P+ without significantly damaging the shot life of the firearm. They will not explode if used with +P rated ammunition but their shot life will be decreased incredibly. The reason why HPs are rated as being able to use +P and +P+ rated ammo is because they will probably just hand you a new firearm after this is broken. Plus, revolvers have no problems with eating hollow-points. In addition, what Hi Point takes .38 special? :neener:
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You get my idea. Those cheap titans are designed for hot loads, and a FEW competent people told me not even to try putting anything hot in them.

I was told by someone at the HP factory that hi points will shoot +P or +P+ just fine, but that shouldn't be what you use to practice with it.

Okay, fair enough. What titan takes +P+ .45?
 
Eliteism vs. Ignorance

The basis for the question that begins this thread is either based in dispicable eliteism or abject ignorance.:fire:

Which one of these - eliteism or ignorance - influenced your question, DAL?

The denigration of any fellow citizen who choses to arm himself, exercising his rights under the 2nd Amendment, simply because of his choice of firearms has no place in a forum of gun owners.
 
Illuminaughty said:
You get my idea. Those cheap titans are designed for hot loads, and a FEW competent people told me not even to try putting anything hot in them.

I was told by someone at the HP factory that hi points will shoot +P or +P+ just fine, but that shouldn't be what you use to practice with it.

Okay, fair enough. What titan takes +P+ .45?
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I do get your idea. However, what Titan was made in the time when +p+ ammo was available? The question is nil because it is unanswerable. It's like asking what kind of Apple IIE has DVD-ROM burning capabilities? It doesn't, because technology, at the time, did not allow for it. Also, I did not know that Titans came in .45... I'll have to keep my eyes open.

The Hi-Point website says that they will take +P and +P+ loads, which would be impressive, if not for the fact that they probably wont last long like a Titan Tiger wouldn't last long. Will a Tiger take +P loads? Sure, but just like the HP, it would have to be sent back to the factory. The Tiger my father has is dated either in the late 1960s or early 1970s, if I am not mistaken.

Please do not misunderstand me... if that is all you can afford, that is fantastic that you (not you, but the general editoral YOU) took the initiative to purchase a fire arm to protect your loved ones, your home and yourself. I just have a hard time wondering why someone would chose it over something a little more expensive when the value of the slightly higher priced firearm seems to get you the proverbial bigger bang for your buck than what a Hi Point does.

Hi-Point seems to have a pretty strong fan base and their carbines seem to be a real deal at just over 150 dollars. However, their reputation as to why they have such a strong fan base is what rubs me the wrong way. A gun that has terrific customer service that accepts a gun for repairs, no questions asked, is terrific. However, no gun should have to be taken in for repairs to begin with. If you are buying a gun to trust your life with, it should earn that trust at not needing serviced. I know there are countless cases where other firearms have failed, but they do not seem proportionate to HP failings. I'd really like to know their percentage rate of sold firearms versus having those some firearms returned to their factory for servicing verses someone like Springfield for their XDs or Ruger for their SP101.
 
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The little Hi-Point carbine cleans up nicely, doesn't it?
 
rageofangels said:
I do get your idea. However, what Titan was made in the time when +p+ ammo was available? The question is nil because it is unanswerable. It's like asking what kind of Apple IIE has DVD-ROM burning capabilities? It doesn't, because technology, at the time, did not allow for it. Also, I did not know that Titans came in .45... I'll have to keep my eyes open.

The Hi-Point website says that they will take +P and +P+ loads, which would be impressive, if not for the fact that they probably wont last long like a Titan Tiger wouldn't last long. Will a Tiger take +P loads? Sure, but just like the HP, it would have to be sent back to the factory. The Tiger my father has is dated either in the late 1960s or early 1970s, if I am not mistaken.

Please do not misunderstand me... if that is all you can afford, that is fantastic that you (not you, but the general editoral YOU) took the initiative to purchase a fire arm to protect your loved ones, your home and yourself. I just have a hard time wondering why someone would chose it over something a little more expensive when the value of the slightly higher priced firearm seems to get you the proverbial bigger bang for your buck than what a Hi Point does.

Hi-Point seems to have a pretty strong fan base and their carbines seem to be a real deal at just over 150 dollars. However, their reputation as to why they have such a strong fan base is what rubs me the wrong way. A gun that has terrific customer service that accepts a gun for repairs, no questions asked, is terrific. However, no gun should have to be taken in for repairs to begin with. If you are buying a gun to trust your life with, it should earn that trust at not needing serviced. I know there are countless cases where other firearms have failed, but they do not seem proportionate to HP failings. I'd really like to know their percentage rate of sold firearms versus having those some firearms returned to their factory for servicing verses someone like Springfield for their XDs or Ruger for their SP101.
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The police departments I've heard of using hi points don't regularly send their pistols back to the factory, and I know for a fact they use +P ammo regularly at very least.
 
Police use Hi-Points?

I didn't know that police carry them. Although I really like my Hi-Point that really surprises me. If I carried a gun as part of my employ I would definitely get something with more bells and whistles. BTW anyone know how HPs fair with being banged or dropped. In my vast experience of watching COPS on tv they seem to spend an inordinate amount of time jumping over fences and storming through narrow trailor doors. Just wondering how they fair with a good whack. :)
 
Now that we've been seeing this thread for weeks running:

Whenever I see the title of this thread, I feel compelled to start singing to myself:

"What kind of kid eats Armour hot dogs?"


-MV
 
Illuminaughty said:
The police departments I've heard of using hi points don't regularly send their pistols back to the factory, and I know for a fact they use +P ammo regularly at very least.
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Do you know what police department this is? I'd be very curious as to why they are carrying HPs are duty weapons.
 
I'd like to see a hi point torture test similar to the glock one, that's for sure.

I'm not sure what police department, its in the user comments of the hi point website (www.mkssupply.com). Maybe you could contact them an ask.
 
It's just a SWAG, but I would suspect if any police depts use Hi-Points it's the carbine and not the pistols, if for no other reason than not many police forces use a single action, cocked and locked pistol.
 
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Its been said on this forum that its standard procedure for LEO to confiscate your gun in a shooting until they finish their investigation. Who knows how long it will be until your gun is returned or if it will be. Do you want your precious 1911 being knocked around in some evidence lockup? I think this makes a good argument for HiPoint for a HD gun. You can still have your high dollar guns for the range or for show. Besides, I dont think the compacts look that bad.:rolleyes:
 
NewShooter said:
Its been said on this forum that its standard procedure for LEO to confiscate your gun in a shooting until they finish their investigation. Who knows how long it will be until your gun is returned or if it will be. Do you want your precious 1911 being knocked around in some evidence lockup? I think this makes a good argument for HiPoint for a HD gun. You can still have your high dollar guns for the range or for show. Besides, I dont think the compacts look that bad.:rolleyes:
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But I have several spare 1911s....:D

But yes, if it's cheap and works, go with it.
 
HP for LEO duty

If ANY law enforcement agency is issuing High-Point hand guns, I would be extremely surprised. I just don't think that's possible.
 
Gun Tests magazine just came out with a review of the Hi-Point C9 and the Bersa Thunder 9. The Hi-Point got 5 stars to the Bersa's 3. They state they "..liked the high-cap Bersa Thunder 9, but we couldn't fault the ugly but functional Hi-Point C9, which proved to e a double-tap marvel."

The same magazine also did a review of 3 .40 S&W carbines, the Hi-Point 4095, the Olympic Arms K40 and the Beretta Cx4 Storm. The Hi-Point carbine took 5 stars, the Olympic got 3 stars, and the Beretta got a big X, for "don't buy it."

IF I needed a good gun, but only had a little cash to spare, I'd definitely look at getting a Hi-Point.
 
Well, a whole lotta people buy 'em. In the year 2000, they sold just under 50,000 of 'em
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And Bill Clinton was president of the USA twice......just because a bunch of people do something does not mean it is a good idea....or wise. High Points and the Clintons in my view fall in the same category. We can do MUCH better!
 
A Hi-Point won't try to take my 2A rights away.

Utterly inaacurate comparison.

A cheap gun is better than no gun. Field tests seem to indicate it's reliable. I won't scorn anyone for owning one or a dozen.

You can always loan it to your panicky, anti-gun neighbor when he realizes news isn't something that happens to someone else and the police can't personally protect him against a threat or disaster.
 
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