mljdeckard
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No. A hit from a .50 BMG is not a guaranteed kill or knockdown. Yes, a higher likelihood than smaller rounds, but you can't say that everyone who has been hit by a .50 BMG has died either.
No. A hit from a .50 BMG is not a guaranteed kill or knockdown. Yes, a higher likelihood than smaller rounds, but you can't say that everyone who has been hit by a .50 BMG has died either.
huduguru: The ignorance and self assuredness in this paragraph is shocking.
Energy is irrelevant, especially when there is so much that almost none of it is actually transferred to the target.
Mr. T, Mr. T! Where did you get all the hogwash shoved into your head?!! Yeah, if you shoot ME with a 45 ACP you can bet my butt is going to the ground in a heartbeat!! If the perp who's coming at you fast is VERY LARGE and is stoked to the gills on meth, PCP, heroin (or some combination of the three) and has chucked down a few shots of Jack Daniels for kicks and grins, guess what? That sucker ain't going down with one shot unless it is a head shot and punctures the lower stem of the brain. There's nothing "magic" about a 45 ACP or a 44 mag. (I own both), ya gotta keep pour'n the lead into the perp until he stops his attack. Stop spreading disinformation about the "stopping power" of handguns.A .45 ACP will knock a man down typically with one shot. There's a reason it's called a man stopper. His initial momentum may carry him forward a couple of steps, but he's going down. It's slow velocity and heavy weight is the key; if you are using jacketed hollow points it will dump more energy with more immediate affects than a FMJ round and would be better suited for close quarters self defense. If you shoot a man with a .45 ACP with a single round he's gonna go down. Keep in mind it's not going to be like a Hollywood movie where he goes flying in the air, but he's not going to keep coming at you. The only exception would be if the person is wearing body armor; even at that the energy dumped in to him is going to drastically slow him down.
I'll bet that was a big disappointment.Really, Reaper? That was graphic? I've seen cartoons more graphic than that. The first one didn't even show anyone getting shot.
Aim carefully with what you can shoot accurately.
That's a great article and is a strong endorsement of larger caliber bullets. I'm even beginning to wonder if FMJ flat nosed bullets are superior to JHP's. If penetration is king then multiple wounds with penetrating bullets seems to be the key to victory.Suggest you study: FBI Handgun Wounding Factors and Effectiveness
And why would you compare the tragic death of Deputy Dinkheller to a cartoon? You have seen cartoons more graphic than this, a man giving his life in the line of duty, screaming out in the last moments of his life after being shot? While not visually graphic certainly one of the most horrific things I have listened to.Really, Reaper? That was graphic? I've seen cartoons more graphic than that. The first one didn't even show anyone getting shot.
Well lets just all agree on one thing. Getting shot by any gun, anywhere on your body hurts.
I once suffered a horrendous amount of trauma (I mean, serious stuff) and didn't feel a thing for hours - 6 or 7 hours later in fact, when I arrived at a hospital was when I first felt any pain and then it was like "Hey you - who's got the morphine? aaaarrrggghhhh"
Fear, rage, trauma, etc, produce endorphins and all kinds of metabolic changes that erase pain, create tunnel vision, make things appear to move in slow motion, etc. I wouldn't count on your angry, frightened assailant giving up just because he catches a handgun bullet though a lung or something.
NOLAEMT said:this man was not only not "stopped" he was only somewhat inconvenienced by the whole thing.
NOLAEMT said:my personal favorite was a man who had cut off his thumb right where it attaches to his hand, 5 minutes into the work day on a band saw. we showed up on scene and he walked out of the shop with the thumb in his other hand. he handed the thumb to me, got in the ambulance without help, or a sound of complaint, and calmly asked to be taken to the hospital. when i asked if he was in any pain he looked at me and said, "well it tickles a little, but i think its going to hurt tomorrow"