What would your JIC gun be?

[goon]

So the thread in the Shotgun forum on the Mossberg JIC kit got me thinking...


The general idea of this kit is that you have a gun prepackaged with some emergency supplies so that in the event of some kind of catastrophic event, you wouldn't be entirely unprepared and unarmed. In other words, to have around Just In Case.
http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.asp?id=28

I question the logic of simply buying a plastic tube with a generic multi-tool and a pistol gripped shotgun in it, but at least people who buy them recognize that they need a defensive weapon and some kind of preparation, so it's a start.

I'm thinking that my choice would be a 20 gauge SXS coach gun. Simple to operate, relatively inexpensive, light enough recoil that smaller adults and even larger children could use it if necessary, effective for close range defense against most two or four legged predators (ammo dependent), hard hitting, it breaks down into small parts for discrete transport/storage, and ammo is very common. My second choice would probably be a 20 gauge pump action with a folding stock, but I admit I don't have a whole lot of experience with folders.

I don't know that I'd choose these guns for myself - I'd be a lot more comfortable with a semi-auto rifle of military heritage and several magazines, say something like a S&W M&P AR-15 at least (but I'm wanting a BCM right now) - but I wouldn't feel completely unarmed with them and I can see them making sense for someone who doesn't put a few hundred rounds a month downrange for practice but still wants something effective to have around for defense.

Anyhow, if you were designing such a kit for sale to the masses, what gun(s) would you include in it and why?

 

[Jeb21]

A mossberg 12 ga. pump would be my JIC gun.

 

[NOLAEMT]

Pintle mounted Ma duce...


Hey, you asked?

 

[RaceM]

Short-barreled 12 GA (double or Mossy/Rem pump). All can be broken down into relatively short packages that'd fit inside a not-humungous cooler along with food, cooking utensils, etc. for a bug-out. Transportable by one person in a pinch, more easily with a partner.

 

[mr.trooper]

I'd probably go with an H&R single shot. A 22" 20 gauge, with modified choke should do the trick.

For short term I'd throw in a Mora, a Swedish fire steel, and a metal match.

For longer duration emergencies I would add a scane of paracord, a pound of powder, and a few hand tools for loading hulls in the field.

 

[Tomcat47]

I have thought many times about the very need for the JIC!

I actually have the gun and a lot more that would suffice, so I really dont need the tube to stick it in. This is basically a tool for the catastrophic scenario, that puts you on the move to survive.

Below is a few things that I believe are as crucial as the JIC firearm (whatever that may be (Fill in the Blank). I think a crossman air rifle would beat nothing at all.

If one has to move/relocate (and you may be evacuated as well against your will or water may be 3 feet over your roof) all you have stored for a situation, all of a sudden has to be left behind!

Keep that in mind...Hunkering down in solitude may not be possible at all!

Keeping portable supplies can mean the difference, and on the go the other necessities such as firearm will be of most importance then.

Link: www.foodinsurance.com
There are 2 backpack kits available from this company, I have one of each!

one is survival and one is same including First Aid and some other tools...Then I added a few of my own items such as .22 pistol and some ammo. One could add different type of firearm to there choosing. I just wanted 6" .22/.22 Magnum revolver in mine some, and some various things like matches,knife,sharpening stone,extra string,plastic etc.

one favorite item....is a Popeil Pocket Fisherman! It is brand new....I found two of them at a yard sale in the box!

My go-to rifle would be my Marlin 30-30 so incl. a couple boxes 30-30. My other would be winchester 1300 20 Ga. and the other pack about 20 rounds for it!

One of the most important tools is the katadyne water filter! Pricey, but quality water filter is important! 0.2 micron ceramic depth filter (cleanable)

The scenario I would picture even in case of Hurricane/Disaster here on the coast, is each adult person grab there pack which contains 1 pistol - then they take a side arm and long gun. Each person in household should have a pack in my opinion...and they are only $200

Also note: For small children you would either add meals to adult packs or realize that food supply will be shortened!

Good thing is they work great just to go hiking as well...use some of food and replenish! keeps food rotated though I dont think it is necessary. Best of all it teaches you how to use your pack, and find things you want to add or delete.

And Obviously hiking you could leave out some of the armament that a disaster might add to pack that would be unnecessary on a hike or camping trip.

Good Idea Mr. Trooper added picture of Lee Hand Loader For 30-30

 

[Buck Kramer]

AK-74...

 

[A strange person]

I don't like pre-packaged survival kits. They're always full of junk I don't need, and lacking what I do. No serious survivalist would be without his own custom survival loadout, developed from years of trial, error, and reading dusty old books by people with names like "Horace". But I guess a tube full of generic junk + a shotgun is better than an altoids tin with matches, some #10 monofilament line, and a whetstone.

But my JIC gun would certainly have to be a large frame .357MAG revolver.

- A proven man stopper, and an excellent hunting weapon for game up to the size of black bear (or cape buffalo with a headshot and a hard, flat-nose bullet). Handgun hunting makes sense in the dense forest where I live. Truly an all-purpose firearm.

- The weapon can chamber one of the cheapest and most common calibers in the world, the .38SPECIAL. It can also use bullets pulled from the other most common round, the 9mm (if you handload), as well as 000 buckshot balls. The man with a .357MAG will never run out of ammo.

- While not an ideal concealed carry gun, it can be done. Even after the end of law and order, this may at times be prudent.

- I like revolvers. It is best to have a weapon you like; good for morale and all.

My next choice would be a 12GA shotgun with a pistol grip (like in Mossberg's JIC package.) 12GA ammo is everywhere. Shotguns just work. They kill stuff. I like pistol grips. Everybody says you cannot hit anything with them. I can.

 

[IcemanUnlimited]

Just one gun? I suppose it depends on how badly things have gone to hell.. I'm pretty sure I'd like a good rifle, good shotgun and a good handgun in stock so my options are open.

 

[ArfinGreebly]

Emergency Kit Gun?

Anyhow, if you were designing such a kit for sale to the masses, what gun(s) would you include in it and why?

Well, at least that's a different kind of question.

I'm thinking you'd need a line of kits, depending on the environment.

Someone sells an "emergency kit" revolver (Ruger Alaskan?) in .454 Casull. It's the kind of thing you chuck in the back of your small plane as you hop around in the wilds of a region known for bears.

Then there's the Mossberg thing you mentioned.

And Marlin makes the P70SS (Papoose) in .22 LR. It's a compact, lightweight takedown rifle with a floating carry bag. I carry one of those in my truck.

If I were making a "general purpose" emergency kit, and I had to specify a firearm, or firearms, for the kit -- keeping in mind that this kit should have the broadest possible utility -- I would do a line of kits in three configurations: One with just the Marlin Papoose, one with just a Ruger MkIII (or Colt Woodsman) pistol, and a deluxe kit with both. I would only have to supply ammo in one caliber, the Marlin can be optionally scoped, and the Ruger can be optionally silenced (integrated suppressor).

The rest of the kit would have routine stuff: flares, basic fishing gear, fire starter, knife or two (or three), 550 cord, basic first aid, that kind of stuff. And there would be a compartment for customizing the kit to suit the individual circumstances.

But the firearms? A small, compact rifle and/or pistol in .22 LR.

 

[bigfatdave]

I generally have a weapon on me in the first place.
If I were to stash a long gun for such purposes, it would be one that breaks down ... Henry is making an improved version of the old AR7, Rossi makes a fairly nice single-shot barrel-swapping line of guns, Marlin makes the Papoose, there are break-down lever guns out there ... etc etc

PGO guns are fun range blasters and (may) have a place in close-quarters work ... but as a survival gun? I'll take something that stores smaller, carries easier, and has a stock, plus a handgun.

 

[Tomcat47]

Here put these in a handy PVC Pipe with a strap on it!

And choose the calibers you want!.......

 

[Heretic]

Don't downplay the airgun.An airgun is relatively quiet, and although there's not a lot of meat on them, sparrow is good eatin'.

And +1 on the water filter. No water, you die.

 

[Ramone]

KelTec SUB2000 in 9mm Glock, 300 rounds some cleaning gear, some parts for improvising a surpressor, all would fit nicrly in a pelican case brief case size, or vacum packed poly bags, stowed in a messenger bag.

Asfar as the rest of my kits go, I am pretty standard, but I have a great trick to try:

Get a little steel wool (just a pinch about the size of a quarter) and short out a plain old 9volt transistor battery. Be careful- the Steel Wool will ignite instantly, and is REALLY hard to extinguish.

 

[Hardware]

My first thought was an M1917 with a jerry can of water and about 10,000 rounds of ammo.

But I already have a JIC gun. It's my truck gun, a Yugo 24/47 with 80 rounds. I keep the bolt secured elsewhere. If it is stolen/confiscated I'm out $100. I figure that criminals aren't going to have much use for a handful of 8mm rounds. And with no foreknowledge assembling a Mauser bolt is not exactly a simple task.

 

[stonecutter2]

For my general area, larger game aren't as big of a concern. Ruger 10/22 and a brick or two of ammo. That's a whole lot of squirrels or rabbits for not a lot of weight to lug around. If I were in bear country, obviously I'd want something more for protection.

 

[huntsman]

My JIC gun is my EDC gun because I carry all the time JIC

 

[Smokey in PHX]

I like the short double barrel shotgun. With it you can do everything you need. Only drawback is is the bulky ammo.

 

[gym]

AK-47

 

[rogertc1]

Another Zombie attack end of the world thread. With age and reality I have lost most of my ability to fantisize.

http://etfairsoft.blogspot.com/2011/03/it-was-good-day.html

 

[jdietz]

I agree with A Strange Person.

My JIC is a Smith 686 And I have a backpack loaded with supplies sitting by the door.

I have several boxes of .357 self defense loads and a couple boxes of light plinkers in the pack. That way I can protece myself and hunt with the same weapon plus it is easier to carry tha a long gun.

If I can take two I would add a .22/.410 combo kit. Again hunt and self defense.

 

[Hocka Louis]

My on-hand "truck-gun" is a take-down .22 Mag pump custom shortened to 18-1/2" and lightened. .22 Mag has all the same features of a .22 LR, except the price, but with the benefit that it is as potent as a .44 Special at point blank range and has the same energy at 100 yards as the LR at the muzzle. What ammo you have on hand is gonna be all you get in this game (not that a .22 Mag can't fire a .22 LR single-shot -- it can).

I did add a .22 Mag/20 ga. Savage O/U to the collection recently.

And you want other Bug-Out supplies with you at all times too. Rations, water tablets/filter bottle, knife, underwear and socks, poncho...

 

[joeq]

Another Zombie attack end of the world thread. With age and reality I have lost most of my ability to fantisize.

I haven't seen one person mention anything about zombies. Way to contribute to the thread though. As for my pick, I would be happy with My Mossberg pump and a bunch of shells.

 

[mongo4567]

My choice is a folding stock Yugo AK47 with a handful of 20 round mags....very compact and plenty of firepower.

 

[henschman]

My JIC gun would be, and is, an M1A.