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Discussion in 'Legal' started by Fire-4-Effect, Aug 24, 2008.

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  1. ilbob

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    The guy is on his way to Africa for a safari. I suspect money is not as big an issue to him as it might be to one of us. Personally, I hope he gets a big chunk more from Denver.

    I am a little curious about the fact that in one of the stories I saw about this incident the story stated that the hotel said he was not registered there.
     
  2. Art Eatman

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    ilbob, he had entered the hotel with the intention of registering. Before he could actually do so, the clerk sicced the cops on him.

    After that, it was hoplophobia at its finest...
     
  3. TallPine

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    I heard that there's a lot of oil development going on around Pinedale, WY --> single guy making a lot of money taking a hunting trip along the great green and greasy Limpopo River. ;)
     
  4. XD_fan

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    The hotel caused his arrest before he could get checked in. Nothing more than a hotel manager trying to distance his hotel from a problem they caused. Pretty standard for the the hotel industry. They don't want the taint of anything wrong associated with their business. Especially if they caused the problem.
     
  5. Kim

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    There is no way the AWB will be removed when the VP slot is filled with the writer of the dang thing. No way will the DEMS go aganist what they see as a Clinton great leap and cultural revolution step forward. They praise the AWB. NO way. Biden who throw a fit.:(
     
  6. Zundfolge

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    $10 says Mr Calanchini started the day as what most of us here would call a "Fudd" ... and ended the day firmly in the "RKBA Activist" column. I wonder how long until he buys his first EBR.

    Welcome to the fold Mr. Calanchini ... sorry your entry had to be so rough.
     
  7. eflatminor

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    I'm going NUTS over this one!

    It's just killing me; I have to know if this guy broke a law or not. I'm pissed that he's apologized and that he let them search his belongings. But, what's done is done. What we need to know now is if he broke a law or if the SS just decided to suspend the law while Emperor Pelosi is in town. If he did break a law with pistols in an unlocked case, then we can all agree what a stupid law Denver has. But if the SS ignored law, this can not stand.
     
  8. cassandrasdaddy

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    the secret service will break or bend a law or 2 if they think it serves their mission. they don't get do overs
    in their place i would do similarly
     
  9. rondog

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    At some point, you just have to stop stomping your feet and hollering about "rights" and "legal". When you're surrounded by armed lawmen, it's time to "yes sir" and "no sir", not start squawking about your rights.

    This town is currently full of high-level VIP's, whether we like them or not, and the security here is very touchy. I don't understand why people don't get that. The SS and local LEO are going to protect the Pelosi's, Kennedy's, Obama's, Biden's, et al, at all costs. Denver government doesn't want to get Dallas's reputation for "letting" Kennedy get shot, and By God these people are gonna be "SAFE"!

    Normal laws and behavior don't count here for the next week. I agree, it sucks, but are "rights" worth getting clubbed or shot over? Not to me. I'm staying as far away from that circus as possible, and I'm still CCW'ing. I've got nothing to prove, just to cover my own ass.
     
  10. DaveBeal

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    From the Denver Municipal Code:
    Sec. 38-117. Dangerous or deadly weapons--Prohibitions.
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    (b) It shall be unlawful for any person, except a law enforcement officer in the performance of duty, to carry, use or wear any dangerous or deadly weapon, including, but not by way of limitation, any pistol, revolver, rifle, ...

    Sec. 38-118. Same--Affirmative defenses.
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    (b) It shall be an affirmative defense to charges brought under section 38-117(b) that the weapon is or was carried by such person:
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    (3) For the legitimate sporting use of such weapons, including shooting matches or other target shooting, or trap or skeet shooting; all such weapons being so used shall be unloaded when carried or transported to or from such sporting use;​

    As long as they were unloaded, it sounds like he's in the clear with respect to Denver law, too.
     
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  11. rondog

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    No, his safari is next June. He was here to get some guns worked on, in preparation for the safari.
     
  12. AntiqueCollector

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    Totally unacceptable attitude as far as I'm concerned. Rights and laws don't go out the window just because a bunch of politicians are nearby, and as I said before, I'm not about to voluntarily give them up either.
     
  13. AntiqueCollector

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    Then if he has the will and the lawyer, he should be able to beat the charge. And hopefully sues those responsible into bankruptcy.
     
  14. Sistema1927

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    Some people pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor against such abuse of rights. We call them the signers of the Declaration of Independence.
     
  15. 20nickels

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    One article states that he has stayed there several times before and that he is in sales. May not be the 1st time he has checked in with long guns strapped to his back. He didn't do anything different than I would have done, get the important stuff from the car 1st and into your locked hotel room. Of course the rifle was in a case "concealed", it just happens to be a good way to transport firearms.
    I don't see where this guy broke any law. If he has money and means, he should seek damages, afterall they did imprison the man for no reason.
     
  16. TeamPrecisionIT

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    18-12-106. Unlawfully making Nancy Pelosi wet her Depends

    -No persons shall proceed to carry an evil murder/death/kill weapon while in a 10-mile radius around Nancy Pelosi or any of her other cronies.
    -Weapon cannot be carried in any shape, way, or form. A locked case is not a legal means of transportation of murder/death/kill weapon.
    -Concealed Carry is never to even be thought of in the presence of the great Nancy Pelosi.

    -Violation of this statute constitutes a person shall endure a maximum one (1) week water-boarding interrogation to find the grounds of their violation from the United States Secret Service as well as the United States Federal Marshals.


    If you think that this is okay, might as well turn them in right now to your local sheriff's department and give up your rights. I really don't like the violation of civil liberties (if you couldn't tell). If the DP was really afraid of guns, they should just leave the country. Unfortunately for them, this one was founded on the principles of the Constitution. Poor them. Giving up your rights for even 5 minutes should get you infuriated, not to mention a whole week. And to answer a previously stated question, YES my rights are worth getting clubbed and/or shot over. I will gladly put my ass on the line if some POS comes into my house in the middle of the night and attempts to kill or hurt me and/or my family. What's the difference?

    Damian
     
  17. mr.72

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    whoah, TeamPrecisionIT, enhance your calm!

    You know I thought this was America ... where we believe that "all men are created equal". I guess some of them are a little more equal than others, which is why we get into this hysterical panic where we toss people's rights out the window and bend over backwards to "protect" a bunch of politicians and their hacks when they deluge a city.

    I think Denver is filled with citizens right now, just as it always is. Why then is there stepped up enforcement of anything? Ms. Pelosi has the same right as the rest of the citizens of California to either rely upon the normal police response to "protect" her safety, hire her own personal security, or acquire a concealed handgun license and carry her own firearm. Same goes for all of these politicians.

    Frankly I'm sick and tired of this blatant classism. This is not a monarchy. This is the USA.
     
  18. Cliff47

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    I was under the impression that politicians were always in season, no bag limit, no need to tag.
     
  19. MarkDido

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    Wow with all the political heavyweights descending on Denver, I'm glad the police made sure that Nancy Pelosi was safe....
     
  20. SomeKid

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    I am curious, did he consent to the search?
     
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    I'm curious if the NRA is going to take the case or not. Anyone here able to get an answer on that?
     
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    I detest government thuggery perpetrated upon law abiding citizens.
    Like Pelosi is some wonderful 'holy grail' of a person when, in fact, her actions make her about as lovely as a puddle of vomit.

    The title of the story should have red,
    “Citizens rights infringed upon by Constitution busting cops”

     
  24. Catherine

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    America is at that awkward stage... Claire Wolfe

    Quote by Claire Wolfe:
    "America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

    When are the PRO gun organizations going to step up to the 'plate' or are they going to COMPROMISE AGAIN, CAVE IN or IGNORE the problem because they might think that the some of those people are ABOVE the LAW? They don't want to hurt the ____ feelings you know! UGH! They are not ABOVE the LAW and that includes the police force, the secret service, the candidates, all of the convention people, etc.!

    The WYOMING man did nothing wrong. H e l l o.....

    Of course there are many people who do nothing wrong but that does not stop the NWO power control freaks and other 'words' which I will not put in this thread because it might be IMPOLITE, not allowed, close a thread or get deleted.

    One of my late best friends, a gun buddy, a former Army Vietnam Veteran always spoke about Denver and THAT side of Colorado along with it being ruined with 'some people'. He was from the west slope... the Grand Junction area - he was born and raised there. I rest my case.

    WY is booming with all kinds of people, industries including the OIL industry. That is not brand new news. It does not matter if the man in question was RICH, middle class or poor... the point is this... he did NOTHING WRONG! His socio/economic level, his status, his wealth or fill in the blank has NOTHING to do with this travesty of JUSTICE!

    Yours in liberty,

    Catherine
     
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  25. carnaby

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    From the comments on this news report

    The guy with the scanner seems to have overheard that the dude was carrying the pistols in a locked case inside a hard-sided suitcase. Let's hope that's true, that would end this quickly.
     
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