mcb
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50 ksi in a CCW size handgun is going to suck on unprotected ears if that it true.
You Asked for it, You Got It; .30 Super Carry.
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“…UPDATE: Since intitial publishing, we've become aware of additional guns to be released in 30 Super Carry. These include the Nighthawk Custom President and GRP 1911's…”
Robbins290
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I dont think Davison's the distributors would play games like that. And its listed right now on there website. So i would say yes. Yes its real.
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.455_Hunter
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That's a bit hotter than I would have guessed.
.455_Hunter
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No. Those are bottlenecked. Think .30 Pederson/7.65mm French or 8mm Roth-Steyr.
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Wonder what a .25 Super Carry could bring to the table?
Imagine a true doubled stacked gun the size of an LCP single stack. 65 grains at say 1200 FPS with 15 round capacity?
Imagine a true doubled stacked gun the size of an LCP single stack. 65 grains at say 1200 FPS with 15 round capacity?
tactikel
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Mama Mia! Those are even less useful than my picks! IMHO this round is going nowhere.
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AMERICAN EAGLE 30 SUPER CARRY 100 GRAIN FMJ
ITEM #: MFG # UPC #
AE30SCA AE30SCA 604544678017
ITEM #: MFG # UPC #
AE30SCA AE30SCA 604544678017
- CALIBER/GAUGE: 380 AUTO
- BULLET WEIGHT: 100 GRAIN
- BULLET TYPE: FULL METAL JACKET
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None of the above.
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beeenbag
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I can definitely get on board with this round. However give it to me in a shield or shield plus. Not a fan of the EZ.
beeenbag
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I’m kinda excited for the round, I hope they have some info at shot show. This is my first year going and if they do I’ll report back here.
.455_Hunter
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Did you see the indicated ballistics?
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Be exciting is someone fired the new round in the pistol below
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I'd trust it more than .22, but it's not as ideal as .32 is.
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It’d be a little something called “personal liability”.
Lots of guns out there can chambers and fire other cartridges, and not safely.
Lots of guns out there can chambers and fire other cartridges, and not safely.
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Hopefully someone actually makes a handgun actually built up for this little heater.
Theoretically speaking, it can make a gun like the P365 even thinner, yet with more capacity. Ballistics and gel results seem very respectable.
Theoretically speaking, it can make a gun like the P365 even thinner, yet with more capacity. Ballistics and gel results seem very respectable.
.455_Hunter
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Kind of like the rimmed 9mm Federal in a .38 S&W.
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That’s one reason I use .38s over .357s for a home defense revolver.
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Since everyone seems to accept this .30 Super Carry is the real deal and not something akin to a post made by a certain neerdowell on this forum that the ATF was reclassifying single action revolvers as machine guns, then the question I have on this huge development is what changed in the market that caused Federal to actually go thru with a rimless .32 magnum? It couldn't have been the discussion we had last year on the subject, no this was likely due to the .32 ammo and guns moving in the market, which is showing data that people are not as down on the caliber as some would make you believe.
That said, I'm concerned as others are about a 50k PSI cartridge for use in a short barrel, that has massive blast written all over it. I was much more into the idea of .32 NAA which doesn't give you the velocity or energy of this .30 Super, but it was Federal/Speer that told us energe ft-lbs means nothing, yet they are now making a brand spanking new cartridge that the biggest selling point is it gets 300 ft-lbs and 1300 fps. Is muzzle energy the new tactical statistic the industry is going to talk up for 2022?
At least with .32 NAA it's not so high in psi that you can put it in the micro pistols like the LCP, but this .30 Super to me appears to be being marketed as a better 9mm and not a better .380, thus will be going into P365 type guns.
And at 100 grains for the projectile this isn't going to be all that much lower in recoil. Again, I liked .32 NAA as 85 grains at 1000 fps has enough to be effective in expansion and penetration.
All that said, I'll take what I can get in 32 caliber because the industry has been so ambivalent about it. Maybe if this holds +2 over what 9mm can do that will get the capacityholics to look at something in a caliber better than 5.7x28, but smaller than 9mm. Since the capacity of a pistol is king to so many nowadays, maybe this will take off. Idk what it will do for the other .32 calibers, but it would be a positive step in the right direction.
That said, I'm concerned as others are about a 50k PSI cartridge for use in a short barrel, that has massive blast written all over it. I was much more into the idea of .32 NAA which doesn't give you the velocity or energy of this .30 Super, but it was Federal/Speer that told us energe ft-lbs means nothing, yet they are now making a brand spanking new cartridge that the biggest selling point is it gets 300 ft-lbs and 1300 fps. Is muzzle energy the new tactical statistic the industry is going to talk up for 2022?
At least with .32 NAA it's not so high in psi that you can put it in the micro pistols like the LCP, but this .30 Super to me appears to be being marketed as a better 9mm and not a better .380, thus will be going into P365 type guns.
And at 100 grains for the projectile this isn't going to be all that much lower in recoil. Again, I liked .32 NAA as 85 grains at 1000 fps has enough to be effective in expansion and penetration.
All that said, I'll take what I can get in 32 caliber because the industry has been so ambivalent about it. Maybe if this holds +2 over what 9mm can do that will get the capacityholics to look at something in a caliber better than 5.7x28, but smaller than 9mm. Since the capacity of a pistol is king to so many nowadays, maybe this will take off. Idk what it will do for the other .32 calibers, but it would be a positive step in the right direction.
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