You Asked for it, You Got It; .30 Super Carry.

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Kleanbore said:
I doubt it.

Try Federal's website.
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Did you not see the Federal link I posted? While the pages might not be inked yet, the pages exist.

The video posted is from Federal Premium.

Do you think the 30 Super Carry is not real?
 
Zendude said:
Would the 30 SC be a decisive advantage in competition shooting? That’s a $4K + gun.
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Rules are built around bullet diameters none of the top sanctioning bodies IDPA/USPSA incorporate that small of a diameter.
 
The cartridge does appear now on Federal's home page.

Nothing yet on S&W that I can find.
 
I predict there are a lot of people who have accepted the 9x19mm to be the ultimate personal defense caliber are going to have a hard time dealing with this development. Whether the .30 SC actually provides 9mm performance and effectiveness is TBD, but the possibility that it could AND provide increased magazine capacity might very well be mind blowing.
 
What was so danged hard about calling it a “32 Super”?
Or “Super Automatic” if they just had to be the kid with two last names?
Did they not want to be associated with the Browning cartridges?
Would they rather be thought of like the effete 30 Carbine, while reminding that it’s compromises are for carry?

It feels like a focus group name, for non shooters.

What’s in a name?
Would a rose by another name smell as sweet?
Not if it’s name were Poopflower…

We, who did ask for this, requested a 32 Super. Not some ridiculous pretentious Kimber pistol moniker.

I hope there is still time to fix their mistake before being relegated to obscure, loud, mini revolvers with moon clips.:fire:




So, double stack LCP anyone?:D


A small bonus! With favorable get tests, a certain member may have to start saying that a thirty caliber cartridge is now the minimum for carry!:evil::neener:
 
So it seems this is official not just a photoshop we all fell for. :rofl:

That said the interesting part now is will this cartridge make it? or will 30 Super Carry (that name is not going to help it much IMHO) going to join 9mm Federal in a nearly instant obscurity or will it linger like 327 Federal Magnum? It will be interesting to see. It would help the cartridge a lot of USPSA and IDPA would let it compete but as it stands its not legal for any of the standard divisions.
 
.455_Hunter said:
I predict there are a lot of people who have accepted the 9x19mm to be the ultimate personal defense caliber are going to have a hard time dealing with this development. Whether the .30 SC actually provides 9mm performance and effectiveness is TBD, but the possibility that it could AND provide increased magazine capacity might very well be mind blowing.
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I can see the benefit over 380 in a micro pistol. But when I first starting reading, I was hoping for a modern 762x25 round. Maybe they will come out with a "30 super duty" or "30 super woods" and have Tokarev ballistics and have Full size service pistols chambered in it.
 
.455_Hunter said:
I predict there are a lot of people who have accepted the 9x19mm to be the ultimate personal defense caliber are going to have a hard time dealing with this development. Whether the .30 SC actually provides 9mm performance and effectiveness is TBD, but the possibility that it could AND provide increased magazine capacity might very well be mind blowing.
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As a 9mm fan, looking at the ballistics which don't quite meet up with 9mm and with less mass, combined with an ear splitting 50k PSI, I'll pass on this cartridge for everything but a mouse gun for pocket carry.

Looks like a good penetrator though, with the increased sectional density of the smaller caliber, but at the expense of expansion diameter. But 9mm penetrates enough and I doubt that those 100gr - pills are going to improve on barriers in comparison to 9mm.

But I have to laugh at your thought that this would be hard development to deal with as a 9mm fan. I almost ran out and sold all my firearms, magazines, ammunition and components for 9mm...:rofl:

The 9mm has been around for 110 years, it's not going anywhere, if anything the past 10 years has shown it's just getting started.
 
I like the idea. I'll get at least 1 gun chambered for this - I just hope they make a good one, which I think they will. Look at what has been selling like hotcakes lately: the SIG P365XL type gun. Basically a way to take what was selling great - 9mm single stacks - and get just a couple more rounds into them in a gun that's really thin.

Heck people went nuts over the LCP Max because again it was an even thinner gun that could hold 10 rounds. Can you imagine how well a gun would sell if it was THINNER than the LCP Max and held 12 rounds instead of 10? There's a lot of sales potential with this idea.
 
mgmorden said:
Heck people went nuts over the LCP Max because again it was an even thinner gun that could hold 10 rounds. Can you imagine how well a gun would sell if it was THINNER than the LCP Max and held 12 rounds instead of 10? There's a lot of sales potential with this idea.
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This is where the focus for this cartridge should be, increasing the usefulness of pocketable CCW pistols.

As of right now I do not reload for 380 ACP and have no desire to for the little that I shoot my LCP. I would treat a LCP Max type gun that is pocketable the same and be happy with the improvements over the 380 ACP.
 
mgmorden said:
Can you imagine how well a gun would sell if it was THINNER than the LCP Max and held 12 rounds instead of 10? There's a lot of sales potential with this idea.
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What would the sound pressure be?

BTW, the Max is too thin for me without a grip sleeve.
 
BreechFace said:
This is where the focus for this cartridge should be, increasing the usefulness of pocketable CCW pistols.

As of right now I do not reload for 380 ACP and have no desire to for the little that I shoot my LCP. I would treat a LCP Max type gun that is pocketable the same and be happy with the improvements over the 380 ACP.
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The idea of a "noisy-cricket" pocket CCW is not appealing to me at all, but with that high operating pressure it would be a beast in a full size gun. A 5+ inch barrel and a full-length flush magazine holding 18-20 rds of ammunition yet still have a slim grip diameter. That would be a great duty gun easy for nearly any size officer to utilize.
 
Kleanbore said:
What would the sound pressure be?

BTW, the Max is too thin for me without a grip sleeve.
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1. I dunno, but I doubt most people would care in a SD scenario and for training most will be wearing hearing protection.

2. Some of us have small hands. I'd gladly carry something even thinner than the *regular* LCP if it was available and had good capacity ;).
 
It amuses me.
.30 Super (I think the "carry" will be dropped in casual conversation.) sounds a lot like .38 Super which Everybody Knows is good. lt's Kewl.

Can't call it a .32 Super because Everybody Knows that all .32s are low powered and obsolescent.

Can't call it an 8mm Super (although the patent application says 8mm) because that sounds Funny Furrin and is not enough different numerically from 9mm to attract attention.

It's just advertising.
 
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