Anyone Not Have a 9mm?

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I had an XD9 and have a CZ-85B. Sold the XD off and the CZ-85 is with my father due to his hands not being up to recoil like they used to be.

I don't mind the 9mm, but I have no passion for it like I have for the .357 Magnum and the .45ACP.
 
Never owned a 9mm. only fired one once. brother in law has a glock chambered in one. I do have 3 .357 magnum revolvers though.
 
I started shooting 9mm around 1965 before it became the "in" caliber.

Although I have owned several and even carried one a couple of times I haven't owned one for over ten years now and I see no reason to acquire one in the near future.
 
I swore, from the day that the 9mm bullet passed completely through me up until a month ago that I would never shoot that "Worthless, (*^&#$, piece of )(*)(#$@####." cartridge. That attitude persisted for almost 15 years, right up until I realized that from a financial perspective I could shoot a ton more of them than I could my beloved .45 and my equally beloved .357mag. Thus, I went from owning zero 9mm pistols to owning two 9mm pistols within a two week period. damn it.

Timbo
 
I love 9mm. It has high impulse and velocity for a non-magnum round, which makes it great in hollowpoint and lousy for ball ammo. The attraction for me is the variety of rounds available and the fact that it's the least expensive centerfire round. Like TimboKahn noted, that means lots of practice. That's more important to me than a bigger bullet. There's also the fact that the guns chambered for 9mm are smaller or have higher capacity. 9mm is an eminently practical round.
 
45 Acp

Have 7 x 1911 and 1x 1917 and carry issued 40 but still like the P-7 even if a wimpy 9 its just fun to shoot.
 
9mm

Had a 9mm Ruger P95DC.
I liked it and sold it to my brother who could not get enough of that firearm.
He loves it. Good home defense and still cheap enough ammo to practise and plink. Perfect for him as a one gun owner.
Handgun calibers I do have are 45ACP, 400 Cor-bon, 10mm, 44 Magnum, 44 Special, 41 Magnum, 357 Magnum, 38 Special, 380 (9mm Short), 25 Auto, and 22 Long Rifle.
I do not have a 9mm at this time.
Any suggestions on a 9?
Saw a Tanfoglio "Witness" in 9mm I liked. Anyone have anything to say about this gun? My "Witness" 45acp is an awesome pistol. I like it just as much as my far more expensive Colt "Combat Elite".
 
I currently own 2 9x19s and a Para-Ord P13.45. I like them all, but due to serious financial problems (wife lost her job due to illness, and Unemployment won't pay up) I'm seriously thinking of selling the P13.45. The main reason, I can get more for it.

In general though, I like both rounds for different reasons. The .45 scares the crap out of BGs if you have to point it at them. And I just like the feel of my two Taurus pistols.

In my opinion, a good 9mm pistol is a lot of fun to shoot.
 
The only 9mm I have is a switch top 1911. .45 and .38 super comp, both ramped barrels. Purchased as a SA .45 abot 8 years ago. Works very well.
 
I have owned and shot many of the larger cals like .40S&W, .44mag and .45ACP. I now own one .45acp, zero .40S&Ws, and about ten 9mms. Gues what I think of the 9mm? :)

I know it is a woman's caliber and all real men have .45s but I still like it. I can buy 2-3 boxes of 9mm for the cost of one box of .45acp so I shoot 2-3 times as much. I am probably 2-3 times better with the 9mm than I would have been if I had only shot .45acp. Now that 9mm has helped me be a better shot, I can shoot .45acp better as well.

IMHO, the three best and most useful handgun calibers to have are 9mm, .22lr and .357/.38spl. With these three cals I can do anything I need doing with a pistol. I don't hunt bear so I don't need a .500 Magnum and I am not so afraid of what people think of me to need to prove something by owning a caliber that is larger than I need.

There really is something to this bigger is better thing. When I see full grown men braggin about how big their truck is or how big there gun is, it makes me shake my head. :scrutiny: I feel sorry for them, it is really sad. If you like your big truck because it is comfortable or you like your .45 because it is accurate and you shoot it well, that is fine but I know there are many guys out there that have no idea why they do the things they do. They do it out of low self esteem and not out of choice. It is the same reason some guys will order a beer at a bar even though they don't like the taste of beer and at home when nobody is looking, they drink wine coolers. :neener:

My point is, knock off all the macho stuff because you look like fools. Do what you want and don't worry what people think about. If you shoot a 9mm better than .45, you better carry a 9mm. If you like wine coolers better than beer, order one at the bar, what is the worst that is going to happen? Sure people are going to make fun of you but chicks dig guys that don't act like the typical macho jerk.
 
I've never owned anything in 9mm and just can't justify it. I have a number of friends and two brothers who own 9mm's, but they mostly all got away from shooting/carrying them much and have gone to .40's

I have always been a big fan of the 1911 platform and have received most of my pistol training using that weapon. I also love Glocks and for the last few years, regularly train with a G23 as well. My next purchase will probably be a G30 and then another 1911.

So, as far as spending money on a 9mm, what's the point? Especially with the .40 cal around.........that takes care of the whole firepower vs. knock down power argument in my opinion. The happy medium is the .40 and I dare say that we will never be rid of the tried and true .45 acp. I carry one daily and if it's not that, it's a .40. The only thing 9mm has on those two rounds combined is ammo prices. They are cheap, but they still aren't worth it to me.

Just my .02 I know a lot of guys will disagree, but that's why we have so many choices available to begin with. I don't dislike the 9mm, I just believe we have better options out there when all things are taken into consideration.

Stay safe.....iamhistory
 
"So, as far as spending money on a 9mm, what's the point? Especially with the .40 cal around.........that takes care of the whole firepower vs. knock down power argument in my opinion. The happy medium is the .40 and I dare say that we will never be rid of the tried and true .45 acp. I carry one daily and if it's not that, it's a .40. The only thing 9mm has on those two rounds combined is ammo prices. They are cheap, but they still aren't worth it to me."

The 9mm also have more velocity than either the .40 or the .45. For those that believe in faster, lighter bullets, the 9mm makes sense. The .223 out of the AR-15 has some pretty impressive one shot stops IIRC, something like 100%. That is just a 50 gr bullet going really fast. I am not saying the 9mm is better than the .40 or the .45 because all scientific evidence shows us that there is not enough difference in "stopping power" or killing power between the three to make a call. The best 9mms are just as good as the best .40s and .45s by all facts and figuires I have seen. I know it makes the big bore guys mad but there just isn't any evidence that the .45 is more effective than the 9mm.

Many people "feel" that the .45 is better and that is fine but just because you feel something doesn't make it true. Fact is, your opinion is just that. I may feel that a V-8 gets better gas milage because it doesn't have to rev as high as a four banger but when tested, we can look at the evidence and see that this is wrong. Why can't we do the same for guns?
 
I may feel that a V-8 gets better gas milage because it doesn't have to rev as high as a four banger but when tested, we can look at the evidence and see that this is wrong.
Not always. It will depend on the size, weight, aerodynamics and the conditions driven that will determine which is best for, each individual application.

For some situations the 9mm will be better.
For some other situations the .45 will be better.
In some the .40 will be better but yet in others it will be the worst of the lot.

Your defense weaponry, just like your motor vehicle should be based on the conditions you THINK you will encounter. Which is why the choices are not, and never will be, the same for everyone.


Another example is clothing. What you wear to work in December may be vastly different than what you choose to wear around your backyard in July.
What they will be wearing in Florida next January will be somewhat different than what we will be weaing up here in Seattle next January.

Thankfully, most of us here, live in a country when you can choose a 4, 6 or 8 cylinder, gas or diesel engine.
As well as a .35", .40" or .45" diameter bore in a semi-auto or revolver.

And best of all, the option to own one (some) from each catagory.

Viva la difference.
 
Nothing but 9mm's

I have nothing but 9mm's. Sold my .40s and .45s. It's cheaper to shoot the 9mm's and I and can afford other items.
 
I didn't have one until two months ago. I had 45ACPs and 10MMs. Started looking for an S&W 39xx for cheap 9mm shooting. Couldn't find one. Found a lnib Glock 19 for a great price and love it.
 
"Your defense weaponry, just like your motor vehicle should be based on the conditions you THINK you will encounter. Which is why the choices are not, and never will be, the same for everyone."

That is a good point. You would also have to tailor your ammo choice based on these factors as well. A FMJ 9mm with out penetrate any .40 or .45 if that is what you are looking for. A JHP .45acp probably won't exit a human torso so that could be safer for bystander.

The problem is, nobody knows what conditions they are going to face so have to just guess based on our worst fears. For some reason, I have a fear of my bullets not getting enough penetration so I choose not to carry a .45acp since my tests have shown that it tends to penetrate less than 9mm. I carry a 9mm with JHPs because I feel that it still gives me enough penetration but it will expand if it hits bone or other hard object.

I would not want to be hit with a hot 9mm FJM because I know it can do some serious damage. A FMJ .45acp is probably not going to feel very good either but based on stats, it IS less likely to kill you.

I don't know, carry whatever you feel is best. I just get mad that 9mm fans seem to have to take a lot of crap for their choice in cal but .45acp fans are never questioned even though the .45acp can not be shown to be any better than 9mm.
 
I have yet to find a "real man" that will go down range and catch a few of the little 9mm's from my Glock17......anyone......anyone...Bueller..anyone.... :neener:
 
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