Singletracker
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Not related to the new laws, but it used to be that firearms do not come out with regular baggage. You have to go to the security desk and provide documentation of ownership.
Colorado Gun Control - Standard Capacity Magazines, Private Sales proposed bans
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Not related to the new laws, but it used to be that firearms do not come out with regular baggage. You have to go to the security desk and provide documentation of ownership.
clem
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Just make sure that you gun owners remember WHO voted for that crap come re-election time.
Zak Smith
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http://www.colorado.gov/govhdir/requests/opinion-leg.html
The Governor's office is still tallying emails for and against the gun bills that have been passed, in order to inform Governor Hickenlooper of public opinion on whether they should be signed into law or not. Let him know you want him to VETO HB 1224 !
The Governor's office is still tallying emails for and against the gun bills that have been passed, in order to inform Governor Hickenlooper of public opinion on whether they should be signed into law or not. Let him know you want him to VETO HB 1224 !
Bobson
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Does he only care what residents of CO think, or everyone? Or no one?
Jakemedic
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what a shame
Wow, how unfortunate for both the citizens of CO as well as anyone with plans on moving to CO.
I was planning on retiring somewhere in CO within the next 5 years. I was always impressed with the state and it's citizens, but now, unfortunately, CO can't be a destination for our "forever home".
Keeping an eye on the laws and the actions of the voting public!!
Wow, how unfortunate for both the citizens of CO as well as anyone with plans on moving to CO.
I was planning on retiring somewhere in CO within the next 5 years. I was always impressed with the state and it's citizens, but now, unfortunately, CO can't be a destination for our "forever home".
Keeping an eye on the laws and the actions of the voting public!!
Resist Evil
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Colorado's progressive program's anti-Liberty laws should not discourage Americans from moving here. We need more of us to help counterbalance the continuous stream of Proggies coming from the nether regions of this country. So, Come On Down!
Unless you would be in violation of these laws. Own an AR? Own a modern handgun? Better think of CO the same way you think of CA.
When it comes down to the line, if you weren't a resident of the state before July 1 2013 you cannot legally own magazines for your firearm.
Many moons ago I had the choice of a job in CO or UT (either being a relocate). Given that choice again today there would be a different result.
Many of you seem to think The High Road is a "conservative" website. It is not. THR is a gun rights site. Every post I noticed blaming "liberals" has been deleted or edited.
We are fighting a battle for our national soul, and attaching firearms to a political slant or particular demographic is short-sighted and WE WILL LOSE. Firearms are not beloved by all Republicans, nor hated by all Democrats, and the same goes with the poorly applied "liberal" and "conservative" labels. Further, using them tends to alienate the curious who are here to learn. Let's help them learn that some gun owners are accepting of all law-abiding potential gun owners, regardless of where they sit on the political spectrum.
If you made a purely religious post, it's gone. The rules clearly prohibit these posts. If you cannot follow the rules that you agreed to, then do the right thing, and don't post.
John
We are fighting a battle for our national soul, and attaching firearms to a political slant or particular demographic is short-sighted and WE WILL LOSE. Firearms are not beloved by all Republicans, nor hated by all Democrats, and the same goes with the poorly applied "liberal" and "conservative" labels. Further, using them tends to alienate the curious who are here to learn. Let's help them learn that some gun owners are accepting of all law-abiding potential gun owners, regardless of where they sit on the political spectrum.
If you made a purely religious post, it's gone. The rules clearly prohibit these posts. If you cannot follow the rules that you agreed to, then do the right thing, and don't post.
John
You mean you can't legally own magazines that hold over 15 rounds for your firearm. My take is that AR's and other semi-auto rifles and pistols are perfectly legal, just the mag capacity has been limited.
Yes, this may ultimately stop me from moving back to CO as planned, after having lived there for several years previously. Now I am considering Wyoming, and Montana. It is a shame because CO has everything, and I know the place, and am comfortable there, but this is just a deal breaker for me.
Reread the post you're replying to.Arbo said:
You're completely missing the point.
I don't think that is accurate. There is nothing in the bill that precludes a resident of another state from bringing in "pre-ban" magazines when relocating or even visiting. Nowhere in the bill does it say that the magazine must be present in Colorado before the date of enactment. As long the person:
They are complying with this proposed "law".
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No, I'm not. If it is the 'left' that has put forth and passed such legislation, it is not partisan to mention that fact. If you refuse to identify who stands against the constitution (on this or that issue), then you have lost the war before you have even begun to fight.
You. Are. Missing. The. Point.Arbo said:
If the legislation that's being promoted had passed his desk, G. W. Bush told us he would have signed it. Romney? Yeah, he authored and signed his own assault weapon ban in Massachusetts. I think the odds are uncomfortably high that under a Romney administration we'd already have an assault weapon ban after Sandy Hook - Dems want it, and Repubs fall in line when the president promotes it.
We talk about gun rights here. We don't do politics. If we did do politics, the only unabashedly pro-gun party is the Libertarians, and there's not really a threat to anyone right now, unfortunately.
Republicans? Yeah. Bloomberg is a Republican, but he wants to be seen as this generation's greatest threat to civilian gun ownership. (Edit: he was a (R) before he declared himself (I) in 2007).
The problem is those that want to disarm the public, and these folks sit on both sides of the aisle.
Pointing fingers is divisive, is simple-minded, muddies the water, and is not consistent with THR's mission.
We're pro-gun, not Pro-Republican.
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Godsgunman
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Well, very very sad. I have always liked the state of Colorado and even thought of potentially moving there but there's no way now. This may be harsh but you get what you vote for. I know there are members here who even vote for the democratic party and then whine about this exact thing happening. What do you love more, freedom or the promise of non-existent "free" handouts? Hopefully there can be a sweeping change in your mid-term elections and some pro-freedom/constitution candidates can replace the anti-freedom ones and undo the damage. My prayers and thoughts are with you.
Actually, it could be (effectively) argued that the Democrats in CO got power by promising more freedom: the right to smoke the plants of your choice. That brought all sorts of folks who normally don't vote, they voted D, and there you go.
Again, things don't necessarily match up with the standard narrative...
tulsamal
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I would agree with that third quote _in general_ but I have to correct that incorrect data in quote #2. "Every state" does NOT have a blue county. Oklahoma has 77 counties. Including Oklahoma County where OKC is and Tulsa County where Tulsa is. And yet all 77 of those counties voted against Obama in 2008. And they turned around and voted 100% against him in 2012. Even Utah can't say that. Oklahoma is the only state in which EVERY county voted against Obama in either election.
Now IMO, that says far more than "the grass is greener in my state." Consider OKC and Tulsa. We have lots of minorities in OK. We certainly have a lot of people drawing welfare for one reason or another. And this state was 100% controlled by the Democrats from statehood until just a few years ago. The majority of the registered voters are still Democrats (46% to 42%). And despite what some Obama supporters would say, it isn't a race thing. OK isn't part of the Deep South or former Confederate States. We had a very popular black Representative that I think could be governor if he wanted to do it. And the Republican controlled House just elected our very first black Speaker of the House. We have no problem electing black politicians or Hispanic politicians or Native politicians. As long as they don't bring in the political rhetoric of Chicago or NYC or California. Oklahoma remains a deeply libertarian state, highly suspicious of large government or any type of control from outside of the state.
And I will grant you.... we have been successful in remaining that way because we haven't had the huge influx of people from other states with different ideas. OK had about 3 million people when I was a little kid. And it has about 3 million people now. If we had the influx of "outsiders" that CO or Montana has faced, I'm sure that would be a big problem. I've said for years that we need to set up a border control system and turn back all moving vehicles coming from certain states!
As far as Colorado, it is personal to me as well since both my sisters live in the Denver area. Sadly, both of them probably think these laws are a good thing. I don't know for sure since speaking about this issue might cause a giant emotional surge in everybody concerned and people might say things they can't take back! I normally go up there to visit every couple of years and carry my CCW while I'm there. And I like to take a rifle with me when I'm going far from home. We'll have to see how that is affected once this all shakes out.
Gregg
Wish that was true, the last couple of times I have checked longarms with final destination of DIA, a thrower just wheels it out and hands it to me as I approach them. Not even a check that my ID matches the tag or I have the corresponding check tag. It is pretty disturbingly easy for someone to steal your luggage, and your recourse seems to be security footage and reliance on the long fist of the law.
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How is anyone going to know if you go out of Colorado and buy magazines with larger than allowed capacities?
I stay in Colorado near the Utah boarder but own a house in Las Vegas and travel between them quiet often as my girl friend lives there. I don't see where this would stop any one from buying else where driving back and saying they owned the magazine before the ban came into effect. :banghead:
How is anyone going to know if you go out of Colorado and buy magazines with larger than allowed capacities?
I stay in Colorado near the Utah boarder but own a house in Las Vegas and travel between them quiet often as my girl friend lives there. I don't see where this would stop any one from buying else where driving back and saying they owned the magazine before the ban came into effect. :banghead:
Godsgunman
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JShirley,
I agree with you and have said this before, as far as presidential candidates we were screwed no matter what. It's not about just voting across party lines anymore either, there are dissenters on both sides. Nowadays it takes alot more research and time in voting for people who are actually "for us", meaning for the Constitution. It shouldn't be Repub vs Dem but should be voting for those who uphold the Constitution. Sorry to much politics, nothing is as simple as it once was.
I agree with you and have said this before, as far as presidential candidates we were screwed no matter what. It's not about just voting across party lines anymore either, there are dissenters on both sides. Nowadays it takes alot more research and time in voting for people who are actually "for us", meaning for the Constitution. It shouldn't be Repub vs Dem but should be voting for those who uphold the Constitution. Sorry to much politics, nothing is as simple as it once was.
alsaqr
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This!!! ^^^^^^^^^^
The 1994 AWB passed the US house by a vote of 216-214. 76 D representatives voted against the AWB. 38 R representatives voted for the AWB.
In 2004 10 R senators voted for an extension to the AWB, 6 D senators voted against the AWB. The measure passed the senate by a vote of 52-47.
jerkface11
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Worst possible situation will be Hillary running against Christie or Bloomberg.
courtgreene
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I've seen a few interesting things mentioned by several as I read this ENTIRE THREAD (it took a while). First, someone said people helped put anti-gun politicians in because they "threw away" or "wasted" their votes on libertarians. Second, someone said libertarians were the only party that was actually pro-gun. Anyone else seeing the problem here? As long as people continue to look at new arrivals as wasted votes, we are stuck with this two party crap. We will remain in a system in which the same people play the same games, ignore logic and focus on their careers, and completely disregard the will of the people and the intention of the country's founding documents. But, sure, continue to have that attitude. Keep blindly following whichever of the two parties that you see as "real parties" that you choose. We'll all just hope that your "real party" members have our best interest in mind while knowing full well that they do not.
Having said that... I feel for you, Colorado. I hate that you were made an example of and I hate that you had to relive the tragedies in your state over the last few decades while they were used to suppress your rights. Good luck folks!
Having said that... I feel for you, Colorado. I hate that you were made an example of and I hate that you had to relive the tragedies in your state over the last few decades while they were used to suppress your rights. Good luck folks!
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