Colorado Gun Control - Standard Capacity Magazines, Private Sales proposed bans

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What makes you think the same people won't vote for them again?
Here in Pueblo at least, Sen. Giron won because she's a Democrat, pure and simple. This is a blue collar town and people vote the party line because their fathers and grandfathers did.

This may change that, judging from the large crowd at her town hall meeting. The local gun owners will be campaigning against her. I predict she'll lose next November.
 
I was born and raised in Boulder, and minus my active duty time, have lived in Colorado my entire life. I will fight this by every means possible, and so should every other Colorado gun owner. The is NO WAY I am fleeing this state like its a sinking ship. The defeatist attitudes of some other "Summer Soldiers" and "Sunshine Patriots" is disgusting.
 
I'm glad that some have finally come to an understanding of exactly which party is the party of gun control. I will freely admit that neither party is as pro liberty and freedom as I would like but the vote in Colorado makes it pretty clear as to who one should align themselves with and attempt to influence.
For years any mention of our presidents position or goals was put down and locked up but do we really believe that the shootings in Co. and Conn. really caused him to commit to gun control? It's not about the guns it's about the power.
 
The is NO WAY I am fleeing this state like its a sinking ship. The defeatist attitudes of some other "Summer Soldiers" and "Sunshine Patriots" is disgusting.

Stay and fight. Fight the good fight. But there is a time when you have to regroup and fight another day. I don't know how entrenched the statists are in Colorado. From what some of you are reporting there is a viable chance of throwing some of the bums out of office. Not sure if the NRA is putting enough money into areas quickly enough to combat the anti-gunners. Perhaps this can be fought out in the courts.

We can blame the population shifts (all these dang Californians move in and ruin a place). But the reality is, we need to do more to get our side to vote and vote correctly.
 
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For those who say that the politicians will pay by being voted out...don't you think the same people that voted for them won't have any problem with them passing this law? What makes you think the same people won't vote for them again?

Obama had a horrible first term and because the people that voted for him the first time didn't care about it being a horrible first term they voted for him again.

Now trying to educate as many people (voters) as possible and helping people see our side of the coin will potentially help in the long run, but I'm just pessimistic that anything will change in the next election cycle in CO.

I just pray that things don't get to this point in my state.
Partly because das reefer won't be up for grabs next time. The pro-weed crown seems to be pretty firmly Democrat/unregistered liberal with a Libertarian chaser...I'd wager the L's will come out and vote regardless and many of the D's and unreg'ed liberals won't care next time around. This is especially true in a non-Presidential election year.
 
Sure looks like it.. with "Captain Piers Morgan" at the helm
Oh man!
Every time I see his face, read his name, or hear his voice, I just cringe in pure disgust.

I noticed how a petition for his deportation with over 100,000 signatures was dismissed by Obama's White House based on 1st Amendment Rights/Freedom of the Press.
Yet....they have no problem stomping on the 2nd Amendment what so ever.
"Selective" Constitutionality anyone?

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Yes and that will evntually lead to another court case that will place a weight of value on the rural vs city vote.
How would that work, constitutionally?

It is hard to predict the future, but there are several other possible reactions to this trend. One would be for states to break up along more rural/urban lines. But that is difficult because it will likely take a popular vote or act of the legislature, and those in power will not likely vote for this because it would cede power to those they want to control. More likely is some kind of free state movement, either explicitly, like the proposed Free State Project, or a less formal outmigration from the anti states to the more gun friendly states. Given that the latter also tend to be states doing better economically, this is not a difficult scenario to imagine. Until now, this kind of migration has been mostly about jobs, with younger, liberal, voters bringing their statist philosophy with them. That is what seems to have happened in "Colorafornia" and is what the gun friendly states in the South need to watch out for. But what I think we may see happen is that people will be leaving the blue states now, not just because of the failing economies, but because of the assaults on liberty (including the 2nd Amendment). Hopefully, they will be less apt to eat away at the gun friendly values of the red states, compared to the previous waves of migration (like those who left California for Oregon or Colorado, and then ruined those states).
 
CoRoMo, good find on that video, do you have a video of the speech owen gave? That was a good one.
 
What makes you think the same people won't vote for them again?

I was going to post the same thing. Everyone keeps saying, "they'll get voted out in 20XX". They said the same thing about Obama and he won again.

I think hedging your bets that someone will be voted out for a single negative when in the minds of the populace they have an overwhelming number of positives (marijuana, gay marriage, etc.), is a losing proposition. There will always be another "marijuana" or "gay marriage" for them to run on. And that will be in many peoples minds, more important than a 30 round magazine.
 
We are going to need a lot of help with and funding recalls, court cases, and getting R's re-elected in 2014. Please stay tuned in and we would really appreciate the help with this fight. We have a window of opportunity to make the future so everyone looks back on these bills as the "Democrats' Big Mistake of 2013".
 
I was going to post the same thing. Everyone keeps saying, "they'll get voted out in 20XX". They said the same thing about Obama and he won again.

I think hedging your bets that someone will be voted out for a single negative when in the minds of the populace they have an overwhelming number of positives (marijuana, gay marriage, etc.), is a losing proposition. There will always be another "marijuana" or "gay marriage" for them to run on. And that will be in many peoples minds, more important than a 30 round magazine.

If we relearned anything from the 2012 (and 2008) presidential election, you can't run a jejune candidate and hope the protest vote carries the day.

I'm not hooked into the political scene, but my biggest concern would be whether or not compelling candidates can be found to challenge the more tenuous Democratic seats in the house and senate.
 
I've lived here in Colorado since 1965, this hasn't been an overnight thing. I saw it start happening with John Denver and his Rocky Mountain High anthem. The hippy, yippy, yuppie plague started up around Boulder and spread due to the California of the ski areas. They had money and liberal philosophies, they bought votes by being cool, the glory seekers ran for office and won. White guilt allowed the passing of feel good legislation until the minorities that profited were in the Dems. hip pocket. There were, too many to mention, changes in our legislative laws, ie; marajuana, children of illegals getting resident tuition, Ward Churchill and the ultra libs in our education system. I could go on and on but the point is, it started out being acceptable by some of us and like a cancer it spread until, like a frog in a pot of water, you didn't feel it boiling until it was too late.
We conservatives in Colorado have been been the silent majority for so long, that we have finally lost our voice in government!
I'm 71 yrs old and I doubt I will see it ever come back to it's past glory. We are not our forefathers, not by a long shot, we have not the will, the courage or determination to do what is necessary. The bad guys outvote us, and we dare not speak of the alternative. Maybe I'm just too old to have the fire in my belly that I had as a young man, hopefully there is a generation out there that does.
 
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I'm in Michigan, 2014, Karl Lenin is retiring, I'll be spending money to try to get a better replacement, as a three month resident of Colorado in my youth, I'll also be sending money to help defeat everyone of those that voted for this anti freedom bravo sierra.

In the next election cycle, we have to support our own in our states and support those in other states that think like us.
 
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You're declaring defeat before the last battle is fought.

You win by never giving up, you loose by quitting before the final battle.

Until the House finishes with amendments and changes and the Governor signs the legislation into law and the court challenges are run you shouldn't be tossing in the towel.
 
Lets be honest here. The Democrat House will pass the gun control bills and the go as said he would sign the bills. The only thing left that can cause other states from taking the same path is for Magpul to follow through with its threat. The loss of jobs will weigh on any politican thinking of taking this path.
 
Well, now I can add Colorado to the list of states to avoid doing business with. This extends to private individuals living in those states, no exceptions.
 
mastiffhound,
Your quote: "I always looked at Colorado as a state of Sportsmen and a big gun owners haven."

This is exactly why this is happening here. New gun control here only shows the Libs that if it can be done here, then anywhere is possible, and that many, many other states can be taken in this direction also. O has used CO to see how this will/can go down. This has been able to happen because this state government is fully "owned" by the Dems right now. Other states in that situation are next.

We can only hope that these new measures wake a lot of people up for the 2014 elections. We have no chance as it stands now. We must gain control of the state senate and house, and for sure we need to get rid of governor Chickenlooper. He's as bad a Bloomberg, just not as rich.

I'm in one of the most conservative counties in CO, although very small in size and population. Luckily, our Sheriff (and most other rural county Sheriffs) and his department will stand for the 2nd amendment and will not allow (enforce) some of these changes. This community is pretty united and is also VERY WELL ARMED! There are a LOT of guns in CO as you stated. I guess many of us will become "criminals".
 
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. The only thing left that can cause other states from taking the same path is for Magpul to follow through with its threat. The loss of jobs will weigh on any politican thinking of taking this path.
No, that is not the only way.

We intend to make it clear that the political cost of promoting gun control is too high, per my previous post.
 
No, that is not the only way.

We intend to make it clear that the political cost of promoting gun control is too high, per my previous post.
I agree, there needs to be several different approaches together, because any one could fail due to the highly populated blue areas of the state.

1. Work to ensure the (D)'s are not reelected.
2. Fight the legislation in the courts in any way possible.
3. Recall's on (D)'s that voted for/signed this legislation.
4. Ballot initiatives to invalidate the laws and amend the constitution to prevent such legislation from being possible in the future.

There are probably more paths to take, but they all need to be taken so it shows as a HUGE effort to restore our rights and put in place actual common sense legislation aimed at criminals rather than law abiding citizens.

I am willing to be involved and give my time and effort in all that I can. I emailed RMGO's about possible ballot initiatives and got ZERO response, which sort of irked me, but will not deter me.
 
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