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Even the Military Channel sometimes gets it wrong. I once heard that the F86 Sabre was armed with three 50MM guns. The real armament was generally six 50CAL guns. The best parts of the CSI shows are the eye candy (no, not the guns).
CSI Miami- Flawed?
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Got here a little late on this one.I didn't see the episode,or don't remember it. I had some of the accellerator rounds years ago in 30-06.
I know the advertised velocity was HIGH,but can't remember what it was.
The claim was that the plastic sabot that held the actual bullet,separated from the bullet at 14 inches from the muzzle,opened up like a flower petal and dropped.
In those days I was doing most of my shooting at an old bauxite mine,so I took the rifle and ammo and spread an old GI blanket on the ground
14 inches from the muzzle and fired off five rounds from the Mod70 Win.
The little sabots did open and drop,just as advertised,and all were recovered on the blanket. Extremely accurate loads,and wonderful to shoot.
Hardly any felt recoil.
I believe they were outlawed due to the fact that the little sabot took the rifling and there were no rifling marks on the actual bullet,which would be a forensic ballistician's nighmare should it be used in an assassination.
It was a good concept,tho,and worked well,giving one a big game rifle,and a varmint rifle all in one. Seems as tho all the good ideas get outlawed by fears of this nature.
I know the advertised velocity was HIGH,but can't remember what it was.
The claim was that the plastic sabot that held the actual bullet,separated from the bullet at 14 inches from the muzzle,opened up like a flower petal and dropped.
In those days I was doing most of my shooting at an old bauxite mine,so I took the rifle and ammo and spread an old GI blanket on the ground
14 inches from the muzzle and fired off five rounds from the Mod70 Win.
The little sabots did open and drop,just as advertised,and all were recovered on the blanket. Extremely accurate loads,and wonderful to shoot.
Hardly any felt recoil.
I believe they were outlawed due to the fact that the little sabot took the rifling and there were no rifling marks on the actual bullet,which would be a forensic ballistician's nighmare should it be used in an assassination.
It was a good concept,tho,and worked well,giving one a big game rifle,and a varmint rifle all in one. Seems as tho all the good ideas get outlawed by fears of this nature.
I've watched CSI Las Vegas a few times and find it mildly entertaining. A lot of what they show on the show is ridiculous - the speed with which they get DNA results, the complete lack of lighting in the lab, and of course, the fantastic lab machines. Think a criminal might have touched that day-old Jello over there? No problem, just put it in the retrieve-fingerprints-from-day-old-Jello machine and presto! - fingerprints, a picture of the criminal, and a couple of tantalizing clues pop up on the monitor.
So while doing paperwork last night I had CSI Miami on, thinking it was the same show, different city. Uh, not quite. You guys have already hit on what a terrible actor David Caruso is. Reminds me of a comment made by Roger Ebert on his show years ago. He said he would yell out "fruit cart" every time a car being chased went up on the sidewalk and hit a cart carrying fruit, even though fruit vendors abandoned push carts at least a century ago. Well, same thing with Caruso, except it is "jacket sweep!". That's where he sweeps back his jacket with his hands, and puts his hands on his hips. That is all he does in the show, other than take his glasses off and put them on again. "Jacket Sweep" would make a cool college drinking game if you didn't mind passing out before the first commercial break.
But the worst part was when two detectives are nearly run down by a car that comes flying out of a closed garage, then crashes, and catches fire. After putting out the fire, one of the detectives detects a familiar odor - jet fuel! He then announces that street racers like it because it burns 200 degrees hotter than regular gas and makes their cars go faster.
The other detective then chimes in that jet fuel is hard to get because it is heavily guarded. Neither one seems to realize that jet fuel is kerosene, can be bought at any airport (not even a waiting period! ) or even a sporting goods store, is essentially identical to diesel and heating fuel, and is a really, really bad thing to put in a gas engine. The writers shouldn't need an expert to tell them that.
So while doing paperwork last night I had CSI Miami on, thinking it was the same show, different city. Uh, not quite. You guys have already hit on what a terrible actor David Caruso is. Reminds me of a comment made by Roger Ebert on his show years ago. He said he would yell out "fruit cart" every time a car being chased went up on the sidewalk and hit a cart carrying fruit, even though fruit vendors abandoned push carts at least a century ago. Well, same thing with Caruso, except it is "jacket sweep!". That's where he sweeps back his jacket with his hands, and puts his hands on his hips. That is all he does in the show, other than take his glasses off and put them on again. "Jacket Sweep" would make a cool college drinking game if you didn't mind passing out before the first commercial break.
But the worst part was when two detectives are nearly run down by a car that comes flying out of a closed garage, then crashes, and catches fire. After putting out the fire, one of the detectives detects a familiar odor - jet fuel! He then announces that street racers like it because it burns 200 degrees hotter than regular gas and makes their cars go faster.
The other detective then chimes in that jet fuel is hard to get because it is heavily guarded. Neither one seems to realize that jet fuel is kerosene, can be bought at any airport (not even a waiting period! ) or even a sporting goods store, is essentially identical to diesel and heating fuel, and is a really, really bad thing to put in a gas engine. The writers shouldn't need an expert to tell them that.highlander 5
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AFAK sabot rounds aren't illegal. I purchased 100 30 cal sabots to shoot 223 bullets out of my 308 and 7.62x39 and they work well. The ammo might have been discontinued because of poor sales. Anyone interested in the sabots pm me for the dealer
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While it had some good parts, this thread was more of a waste of time to read than to build up knowledge of Gun Use, The little bit about Accellerator/Sabots would have been interesting, but I can find that much info with a search.
Bashing TV shows is more wasteful than watching them.
Good night and Good luck.
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Bashing TV shows is more wasteful than watching them.
Good night and Good luck.
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