Dallas Security Guard uses his SKS in self defense shooting

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A handgun is fine, but a carbine is much better.

Also, please don't confuse the issues of whether or not it was legal for him as a security guard to have a carbine and whether or not the shooting was justified. Even if Texas law forbade security guards from carrying rifles, the punishment for such an infraction has nothing to do with the self defense justification.
 
Cue the weeping grandmother and "he was such a good boy" speeches.
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That's where you would be wrong, at least the footage FOX just showed. It was the mother of one of the perps. She did not know how her son came to be at that location but she did not think it was her son's idea to rob anyone.

All in all, a well controlled response. No blaming others. I felt sorry for her loss.
 
Is it legal to have a loaded rifle in your car in TX?
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Perfectly. Any Fed-recognized (non-SBR/SBS - though they may be perfectly legal too) long gun of any caliber of any capacity is perfectly legal. Nowadays, a handgun is legal in a car as long as it's concealed.

Seems like it would be a little difficult to fast-draw an SKS - but it sounds like a good shoot.
 
Two bad guys gone, and another gets to spend some time in the greybar hotel, hopefully with a really big, hairy, and ill tempered roomate.
 
non-SBR/SBS - though they may be perfectly legal too
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These are legal but the exact wording of the statute says that having the tax stamp is a defense to prosecution, not arrest.

I have carried mine in the car with me in the past but there is some tiny risk.

It is a defense to prosecution under this section that
the actor's possession was pursuant to registration pursuant to the
National Firearms Act, as amended
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That's for MGs, SBx, suppressors, DDs, all the fun stuff.
 
Can you imagine the media frenzy if he would of had an AK, they would of turned this guy into a criminal. MAN USES ASSAULT RIFLE TO MURDER TEENS or something like that for the headline. Even tho most AK's are chambered as the same as the SKS. Just my two cents.
 
Can you imagine the media frenzy if he would of had an AK, they would of turned this guy into a criminal.
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Well this is Texas for the most part even though this happened in Dallas. You don't usually see that kind of stuff here except in Dallas and Austin.

There have been plenty of self defense cases with ARs and AKs and it's just another day for the law abiding as far as the press goes. It's pretty rare to see an anti stance here outside of those 2 cities.
 
Good to see the bullets didn't over penetrate and kill hundreds of innocent toddlers like everyone says it will during the 7.62x39 vs 223 debates.
 
I say this because my HD gun is an SKS, and overpenetration has always been a concern in a shooting situation.
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I haven't tested them myself, but somebody was telling me that the 7.62 Hornady varmit bullets fragment like a son of a gun. I'm going to pick up a couple of boxes and go shoot some stuff.
 
If they already had a gun on him how did he have time to grab a rifle out of his car? Was he sitting there with an SKS in his lap? Was it lying in the passenger seat?
 
Now, I'm confused. The BG's had the drop on the guard with their handguns. He managed to extract the SKS from whatever place it was residing, swing it around and shoot the guys before they could get a shot off?

Sounds to me like the teens weren't really interested in actually USING the firearms they had, just for intimidation/control purposes.

EDIT: I see Jerkface beat me to it. Great minds think alike.
 
Sounds to me like the teens weren't really interested in actually USING the firearms they had, just for intimidation/control purposes.
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Does that really matter? Maybe they are just stupid crack heads out in the middle of the night.

First rule of a gunfight, bring a gun.....

What happened here is that the typical criminal does not expect to encounter resistance.

That's why these kinds of shootings are good in a way, the criminal element needs to understand that not everyone will just lay down and comply.
 
Maybe the guy recognized the danger, got his gun ready, then used the element of suprise and maybe the thugs were not at point blank range. Therefore the shoulder-fired weapon trumped handguns. Maybe the thugs not being combat trained, they panicked under fire and did not effectivly use their guns.

I mean, its not like we don't see plenty of self defense stories where the BG has the drop on someone at point blank range, BG goes home in body bag and would be victim is unharmed.

So why must this case be different? I don't understand why there is so much Monday morning quarter backing. Multiple thugs come at someone in the middle of the night, but don't worry, it was just a bit of posturing gone wrong. Sorry about that.

No, dog gone it. Those guys wern't over agressive girl scout cookie salesmen. They were out to cause harm and under estimated the intended victim. Kudos to the man to recognizing the situation for what it was and effectivly using his weapon.
 
I'm not saying the guard did anything wrong. I'm just wondering how he got the rifle out and used it without getting shot himself.
 
jerkface11, in the part of town he was in, I wouldn't be surprised if he had it sitting in his lap with the muzzle pointed out the door. The Redbird area is NOT a nice part of town to be in after dark.
 
A bad enough part of town that you keep a loaded rifle in your lap? I take it Redbird is like North Little Rock or West Memphis.
 
Also, please don't confuse the issues of whether or not it was legal for him as a security guard to have a carbine and whether or not the shooting was justified.
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I'm not sure he was acting in a security guard capacity. Seems that he was probably there after work. The paper seemed to say he had ties to the dollar store he was in front of, but then I read he was a Wal-Mart security guard. Whatever the case, I don't think he was acting as a security guard at the time.

If he did work at Wal-Mart, why did he drive to this bad part of town and sit infront of the dollar store messing with his lap top? I know I sometimes jump to wierd conclusions, but I rarely believe the obvious story. I bet he was there late at night to score some crack or something. That would explain why he kept his SKS in red alert mode.

Sounds to me like the teens weren't really interested in actually USING the firearms they had, just for intimidation/control purposes.
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How was he supposed to know they wouldn't kill him? ESPN? Even if those bandits told me they didn't mean to kill me, but just scare me, I would feed em full of lead if given the chance as soon as I felt my life was in jeopardy.
 
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A bad enough part of town that you keep a loaded rifle in your lap?
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Yes, if you are smart you won't even go down there but if you do, armor plated windows and rifles would be the minimum actually.
 
Some of the leftist comments in this thread make me wonder if this is THR or TLR. Perhaps the defender lives in this bad part of town. Perhaps he was waiting for a friend to get off work. Perhaps he was parked in this place because it was well-illuminated and seemed a good place to stop and use his computer. Texas law indicates that it is OK to defend yourself, with no duty to retreat, when you are in a place that you have a right to be. Long guns are OK on or about the person, loaded or not, concealed or not. That means it is OK to have an SKS across your lap, in most public places in Texas. If this guy was was security guard, on post, and not authorized to carry a rifle as part of his job, that is an issue with his licensing authority and his employer, not a prosecutable offense. Edited to add: I am referring to posts scattered throughout this thread, not to the responses immediately above mine. I am not a lawyer, but have been enforcing Texas laws for over two decades.
 
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Video was shown on local TV and you can clearly see the SKS on the ground.
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Did anybody notice if it had a standard stock or an aftermarket folding type? I was also wondering how he could manuever it inside the car. Maybe it was in the passenger seat and he just brought it out with him as he got out of his car?
 
I guess if they're going to be all loose with the term assault rifle/automatic rifle, at least its in a story that appears a good shoot.

See? Those assault rifles are good for something other that shooting down commercial airplanes!
 
If they already had a gun on him how did he have time to grab a rifle out of his car? Was he sitting there with an SKS in his lap? Was it lying in the passenger seat?
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My first question too. I am very impressed he was able to grab his SKS (must have been loaded), manuver it within a jeep, and get off accurate fire- especially if they had the drop on him. It could be hard enough to counter draw with a pistol let alone an SKS.

Good shooting! Glad he didn't need more than 10 rounds- loading a stripper clip under fire might be rough.
 
Looks like the guy with the SKS just eliminated some of the pollution in the gene pool. Good for him. Good for the rest of us too.
 
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