sturmruger
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I think I would try one range session and then leave it at that. If the wives don't come around they will blame you for any gun purchases for a long time to come.
Friends' wives won't let them have guns....
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The trick is to also get them something they actually wanted too. Which reminds me, I have to get thinking for Valentine's Day! I got her "real" present, now I have to come up with the gun related gift. Too bad I just got her a case of ammo for her rifle...
ArmsAkimber
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I entered the realm of gun nuttitude three years into our marriage. When shopping for our first home, she stipulated we were to have no guns in the house. My response to this was to limit our house search to small homes in "better neighborhoods." I also told her if any of our new neighbors were murdered in their home, within a 1/2 mile radius, I'd buy a gun no later than the day after I learned of it.
Well, an elderly man was beaten to death by a drug addict, with a hammer, in his basement. Hello Mossberg 500. After shooting some skeet with it, I realized I liked it, and the inevitable ensued.
She has come to tolerate presence of guns, including the sight of my regular carry piece. This level of accord did not come, however, without pain. At one point, she gave me an ultimatum: get rid of all but one handgun, rifle, and shotgun, or she would leave. I told her I would not live under those conditions, and that I would be sorry to see her go. Those reading this should know we don't have kids, and my response would have probably been different if we had. With the exception of my carry firearm, my collection is stored out of her sight.
Over the years, I have gotten several of her female friends interested in firearms, and this example has helped her to tolerate the guns. After all, when a husband says something it is of no account, but when a girlfriend does, it's important.
Well, an elderly man was beaten to death by a drug addict, with a hammer, in his basement. Hello Mossberg 500. After shooting some skeet with it, I realized I liked it, and the inevitable ensued.
She has come to tolerate presence of guns, including the sight of my regular carry piece. This level of accord did not come, however, without pain. At one point, she gave me an ultimatum: get rid of all but one handgun, rifle, and shotgun, or she would leave. I told her I would not live under those conditions, and that I would be sorry to see her go. Those reading this should know we don't have kids, and my response would have probably been different if we had. With the exception of my carry firearm, my collection is stored out of her sight.
Over the years, I have gotten several of her female friends interested in firearms, and this example has helped her to tolerate the guns. After all, when a husband says something it is of no account, but when a girlfriend does, it's important.
The Freeholder
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OK, let's refer to one of our own, Mr. John Ross:
http://www.john-ross.net/abby.htm
http://www.john-ross.net/advice.htm
And for fun, and for the ladies:
http://www.john-ross.net/men.htm
Allow me to explain why I point you there. I'm married to one of the women JR describes--a "financial arsonist" who has cost me, at a conservative estimate, several hundred thousand dollars.
Let me say that again, louder: SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
That's along with much of my sanity, some of my friends, a number of contacts, etc. This is because I was acting like a blind fool. Even though I made the lion's share of the income, I allowed her to call far too many of the shots, both financial and otherwise, with little or no input or checks from me. "Peace in the family" and that sort of nonsense.
The warning should have been the "no guns" BS. Because of some of her actions, we had people threatening us with bodily harm. I had to borrow a pistol from my sister-in-law (!) for protection. Thank God I was raised around guns and know how to use them. Nothing occured, which was good--i was out of practice. I at least had the brains to tell her I was going to buy a home-defense shotgun, and I didn't want to hear anything about it. But I couldn't have any other guns.
Other things happened over the years. Eventually, the roof predicatably caved in. In the process of sorting things out and trying to get my marriage arranged in some way that it could work, I ran into Mr. Ross's book, and that led to his website and the articles above.
I'm not overstating it when I say his words changed my life and likely saved what was left of my marriage. Using his insights into the average 18-45 year-old woman, I can now understand what I was doing wrong and why. Trust me when I say those mistakes aren't being repeated.
Interestingly enough, my wife has lost many of her poor habits, and seems to be in the process of remaking herself into a woman who is worth being with. I have a gun safe, and it's fairly full. She is no longer the financial arsonist she was (although I do keep her on a fairly tight but slowly loosening leash where it concerns money) and she has become a more trustworthy individual.
I expect some to damn me for saying these things, and I really don't care. Been there, done that. Those of you who have these sorts of problems, especially before you're married, need to heed Mr. Ross's advice and be willing to say "Next!".
http://www.john-ross.net/abby.htm
http://www.john-ross.net/advice.htm
And for fun, and for the ladies:
http://www.john-ross.net/men.htm
Allow me to explain why I point you there. I'm married to one of the women JR describes--a "financial arsonist" who has cost me, at a conservative estimate, several hundred thousand dollars.
Let me say that again, louder: SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
That's along with much of my sanity, some of my friends, a number of contacts, etc. This is because I was acting like a blind fool. Even though I made the lion's share of the income, I allowed her to call far too many of the shots, both financial and otherwise, with little or no input or checks from me. "Peace in the family" and that sort of nonsense.
The warning should have been the "no guns" BS. Because of some of her actions, we had people threatening us with bodily harm. I had to borrow a pistol from my sister-in-law (!) for protection. Thank God I was raised around guns and know how to use them. Nothing occured, which was good--i was out of practice. I at least had the brains to tell her I was going to buy a home-defense shotgun, and I didn't want to hear anything about it. But I couldn't have any other guns.
Other things happened over the years. Eventually, the roof predicatably caved in. In the process of sorting things out and trying to get my marriage arranged in some way that it could work, I ran into Mr. Ross's book, and that led to his website and the articles above.
I'm not overstating it when I say his words changed my life and likely saved what was left of my marriage. Using his insights into the average 18-45 year-old woman, I can now understand what I was doing wrong and why. Trust me when I say those mistakes aren't being repeated.
Interestingly enough, my wife has lost many of her poor habits, and seems to be in the process of remaking herself into a woman who is worth being with. I have a gun safe, and it's fairly full. She is no longer the financial arsonist she was (although I do keep her on a fairly tight but slowly loosening leash where it concerns money) and she has become a more trustworthy individual.
I expect some to damn me for saying these things, and I really don't care. Been there, done that. Those of you who have these sorts of problems, especially before you're married, need to heed Mr. Ross's advice and be willing to say "Next!".
Declaration Day
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I'm not going to "damn you" 30-06. In a world where most married couples bail out at the first sign of trouble, you tried hard to make your marriage work. That is both rare and commendable. I can honestly say that I would not have the patience or desire to straighten out a situation as bad as you describe.
I am wondering, what did your wife do that caused people to threaten you?
I am wondering, what did your wife do that caused people to threaten you?
I bought my first handgun (Steyr M40) a couple months ago, with my wife's relucatant acceptance... she's never been too fond of guns (loves swords, though!), but I was nagging her for a while, saying that if it was going to be in the house she should learn how it works, how to use it, etc.
She told me recently that the main reason she's been resisting that is she's been depressed a lot lately (post-partum, basically) and would rather not have that option there.
That shut me up.
No more nagging, I'll show her when she's ready, and in the meantime, it stays locked up.
She told me recently that the main reason she's been resisting that is she's been depressed a lot lately (post-partum, basically) and would rather not have that option there.
That shut me up.
No more nagging, I'll show her when she's ready, and in the meantime, it stays locked up.
What I would actually do/say if it were me in the situation would be different and much less PC. Basically, I wouldn't be in the situation. However comma because these gentleman already are in said situation, and the poster was asking advice on helping his friends to convert their female friends, what I would do has little bearing and would be useless to the topic at hand.
He's not asking if he should tell his friends to ditch their wives/SO's. He's asking what he can do to ease them into thinking gun ownership is a good idea. So let's stick with the topic, eh?
Best Advice: Politely tell your friends that the problem is between them and their wives and that it is best for you not to interject yourself between either.
Good Advice: Provide your friends with the link to THR so they can personally do the research necessary to provide appropriate information to their wives that will convince them to allow guns in their homes.
OK Advice: Tell your friends that marriages are a partnership not a dictatorship and that neither partner should have veto power over the actions of the other. If they cannot agree to disagree then they've got bigger problems than just having their wives forbid them to have firearms in their homes.
Potentially Dangerous Advice: Tell your wuss friends to be men and grow a set of balls. Tell 'em to tell their pansy ass bleeding heart liberal million mom march bitch wives to bugger off and then go out and buy what ever guns they want.
NOTE: My wife of 25 years and I have always taken the OK Advice route. We don't always agree on everything and when that happens we agree to disagree. We never ever put our foot down and demand the other behave in a certain way. That's a sure path to divorce.
Good Advice: Provide your friends with the link to THR so they can personally do the research necessary to provide appropriate information to their wives that will convince them to allow guns in their homes.
OK Advice: Tell your friends that marriages are a partnership not a dictatorship and that neither partner should have veto power over the actions of the other. If they cannot agree to disagree then they've got bigger problems than just having their wives forbid them to have firearms in their homes.
Potentially Dangerous Advice: Tell your wuss friends to be men and grow a set of balls. Tell 'em to tell their pansy ass bleeding heart liberal million mom march bitch wives to bugger off and then go out and buy what ever guns they want.
NOTE: My wife of 25 years and I have always taken the OK Advice route. We don't always agree on everything and when that happens we agree to disagree. We never ever put our foot down and demand the other behave in a certain way. That's a sure path to divorce.
Bubbles
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While not gun-related, still on topic.
Ten years ago, my first serious boyfriend insisted that I get rid of my horse and my labrador retriever before we get engaged. I walked out and didn't look back. I still have the horse; sadly, the dog was put down last year due to health problems.
Get the picture guys?
BTW I'm happily married now and we're expecting our first child, who will be brought up knowing how to safely handle firearms.
Ten years ago, my first serious boyfriend insisted that I get rid of my horse and my labrador retriever before we get engaged. I walked out and didn't look back. I still have the horse; sadly, the dog was put down last year due to health problems.
Get the picture guys?
BTW I'm happily married now and we're expecting our first child, who will be brought up knowing how to safely handle firearms.
Walt Rauch
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This is the problem when "men" marry their "mothers". A similar example is the guy at the gun show who says "my wife only let me come here with $10"!
itgoesboom
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The funny thing about both of these friends (the two main ones that I am thinking about) is that both of them used to own firearms.
But it sounds like they didn't have them when they met their significant others. Unfortunatly, it sounds like both of their significant others are mostly uneducated when it comes to firearms.
Chances are I will go shooting with one of the friends in the next couple weeks, and I am sure that he will start talking to his GF about purchasing a pistol soon after.
My thought here is I have a chance to not only help a couple of friends, but also convert a couple of antis. I had actually conviced one of them to come shooting with me so that she could learn firearm safety, but then she ended up getting pregnant.
I would have my wife invite the other to go shooting, but my wife is now pregnant, and she wasn't the best shot to begin with.
I.G.B.
But it sounds like they didn't have them when they met their significant others. Unfortunatly, it sounds like both of their significant others are mostly uneducated when it comes to firearms.
Chances are I will go shooting with one of the friends in the next couple weeks, and I am sure that he will start talking to his GF about purchasing a pistol soon after.
My thought here is I have a chance to not only help a couple of friends, but also convert a couple of antis. I had actually conviced one of them to come shooting with me so that she could learn firearm safety, but then she ended up getting pregnant.
I would have my wife invite the other to go shooting, but my wife is now pregnant, and she wasn't the best shot to begin with.
I.G.B.
MICHAEL T
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Tell them to be a man and grow some. No wife is going to tell me what I can or can't not own. Its my house to. 
ARperson
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My husband and I got into guns together, before we were married. When he first got into it he talked to me about a little bit about how he was going to have a gun in the house and how I felt about that. He was lucky in that I was pretty indifferent about it then.
Now I get to pick out cool stuff for me when we go to the gun shop. It gets him every time I pick up something cool and give him the look. He knows right then that this is MY gun, and that I MIGHT let him shoot it if he is good. 
Having said that, now many years later we both talk about how we could never be married to someone who would not have them in the house. I won't have a wimp that refuses to defend my kids, and he won't have someone that won't do every thing they can to defend his kids.
So my advice to you all with boy/girlfriends that say no, get them shooting. If they won't go, and still say no way to something that is a big/important part of your life, I'd start looking for a replacement. But that is just one opinion.
Now I get to pick out cool stuff for me when we go to the gun shop. It gets him every time I pick up something cool and give him the
look. He knows right then that this is MY gun, and that I MIGHT let him shoot it if he is good. Having said that, now many years later we both talk about how we could never be married to someone who would not have them in the house. I won't have a wimp that refuses to defend my kids, and he won't have someone that won't do every thing they can to defend his kids.
So my advice to you all with boy/girlfriends that say no, get them shooting. If they won't go, and still say no way to something that is a big/important part of your life, I'd start looking for a replacement. But that is just one opinion.
jamz
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I fought this battle last year, and am still fighting it to an extent. The history of this time is that my wife and I had been married for 7 years, and had a 1 year old girl and 4 year old boy. My wife knew that my Dad had a safe full of guns, and that I enjoyed shooting with him.
Essentially, she went from "no guns in the house" to, currently, a gun safe with a few pistols and rifles, and she doesn't complain much when I buy a new gun, in the space of a little over a year.
So if the friends are resolute about this, as I was, and if their SOs are reasonable, they have a pretty good chance. I took it slow and steady, and advise the same.
-James
Essentially, she went from "no guns in the house" to, currently, a gun safe with a few pistols and rifles, and she doesn't complain much when I buy a new gun, in the space of a little over a year.
So if the friends are resolute about this, as I was, and if their SOs are reasonable, they have a pretty good chance. I took it slow and steady, and advise the same.
-James
HankB
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It's bad enough if wifey is dictating what he can and can't do . . . but to put up with it from a girlfriend is asinine. Best advice is to find another.
First off, what we are talking about here is relationship advice, not gun advice.
If we are talking about girlfriends then the solution is simple. Tell your friends to do what ever they wish and if their girlfriend can't deal with it then it's time to find a new girlfriend.
With a wife, the story changes a little (or a lot if there are kids involved). I would never allow or accept my wife "telling" me what I will or won't do. I would not do that to her and I insist on receiving the same respect. We are partners and best friends and neither one of us has ultimate "control" over the other one (and to be honest, neither one of us wants that kind of control).
If that is not the kind of relationship your friends have with their wives then I suggest they re-evaluate their marriages and determine if that is really the way they want to live their lives.
If they do have a good, loving, mutual respectful relationship then it shouldn't be too hard to arrive at a reasonable compromise. First they need to determine exactly what her fears are and what they are based on. 99.9% of the time they are based off of inaccurate information, misconceptions and\or negative media propaganda.
Once you get to the root issue, it's time to re-program using the facts and common sense as your weapon. Explain to them what a firearms really is and how it works. Explain that they are inanimate objects, tools if you will and in that sense, are no different than a coffee pot, a screw driver or an automobile. Explain to her that there is no such thing as AD (accidental discharges) but in fact, they are only ND (negligent discharges). Explain to her the 4 rules of gun safety and how if they are followed, no firearm will ever cause any harm or destruction that was not intended.
Realize that if her fears or hated of firearms are deep seated that this will not be a quick process and pushing too hard or too loudly will just make it that much harder. Some concessions will probably have to be made at first such as immediately buying some kind of lockable storage devise to store your new firearm in before purchase. It may be a good idea that, if you get to the point where she will accept a firearm in the house, start with something like a .22 revolver. She will be less intimidated by it and you may even be able to get her to shoot it. If so, you never know, she may even like it and then watch out!
Anyway, good luck to your friends but it sound like they have bigger problems then simply being "allowed" to own a firearm.
If we are talking about girlfriends then the solution is simple. Tell your friends to do what ever they wish and if their girlfriend can't deal with it then it's time to find a new girlfriend.
With a wife, the story changes a little (or a lot if there are kids involved). I would never allow or accept my wife "telling" me what I will or won't do. I would not do that to her and I insist on receiving the same respect. We are partners and best friends and neither one of us has ultimate "control" over the other one (and to be honest, neither one of us wants that kind of control).
If that is not the kind of relationship your friends have with their wives then I suggest they re-evaluate their marriages and determine if that is really the way they want to live their lives.
If they do have a good, loving, mutual respectful relationship then it shouldn't be too hard to arrive at a reasonable compromise. First they need to determine exactly what her fears are and what they are based on. 99.9% of the time they are based off of inaccurate information, misconceptions and\or negative media propaganda.
Once you get to the root issue, it's time to re-program using the facts and common sense as your weapon. Explain to them what a firearms really is and how it works. Explain that they are inanimate objects, tools if you will and in that sense, are no different than a coffee pot, a screw driver or an automobile. Explain to her that there is no such thing as AD (accidental discharges) but in fact, they are only ND (negligent discharges). Explain to her the 4 rules of gun safety and how if they are followed, no firearm will ever cause any harm or destruction that was not intended.
Realize that if her fears or hated of firearms are deep seated that this will not be a quick process and pushing too hard or too loudly will just make it that much harder. Some concessions will probably have to be made at first such as immediately buying some kind of lockable storage devise to store your new firearm in before purchase. It may be a good idea that, if you get to the point where she will accept a firearm in the house, start with something like a .22 revolver. She will be less intimidated by it and you may even be able to get her to shoot it. If so, you never know, she may even like it and then watch out!
Anyway, good luck to your friends but it sound like they have bigger problems then simply being "allowed" to own a firearm.
Lonestar.45
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That is a tough situation. Fortunately, I had guns before meeting my wife, and made sure that she wasn't anti before I got married. She's neutral. Not crazy about the idea, but really could care less, as long as I have them locked up in the safe.
I have found, at least in my sitation, that it is better to ask forgiveness than permission. The answer will ALWAYS be NO when you ask permission. Women who don't want guns in the house, usually are that way because they have an irrational fear of them and are worried to death about safety. Getting a good quality gun safe and convincing them that you are/will be EXTREMELY safe with them, can go a long way towards moving them towards the neutral position. Of course, sometimes the irrational fear is just that, irrational, and no amount of talking or convincing will work. In that case, my friend, I feel for you. You'll have 3 choices at that point: the wife, the guns, or the wife AND the guns AND a boatload of misery for as long as she feels like keeping you in the dog house (which can be a long long time).
The best advice, if you like guns and are unmarried, is to avoid anti-women, and at the first sign of anti-attitude, pay attention, because chances are you will not change them after you are married.
I have found, at least in my sitation, that it is better to ask forgiveness than permission. The answer will ALWAYS be NO when you ask permission. Women who don't want guns in the house, usually are that way because they have an irrational fear of them and are worried to death about safety. Getting a good quality gun safe and convincing them that you are/will be EXTREMELY safe with them, can go a long way towards moving them towards the neutral position. Of course, sometimes the irrational fear is just that, irrational, and no amount of talking or convincing will work. In that case, my friend, I feel for you. You'll have 3 choices at that point: the wife, the guns, or the wife AND the guns AND a boatload of misery for as long as she feels like keeping you in the dog house (which can be a long long time).
The best advice, if you like guns and are unmarried, is to avoid anti-women, and at the first sign of anti-attitude, pay attention, because chances are you will not change them after you are married.
itgoesboom
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There seems to be alot of bashing of these two friends.
But the fact is, many people out there have an irrational fear of firearms. That is the main concern here.
Rather than beating on my friends here, lets figure out a way to help them out.
So I am looking for:
1. Ways of introducing theirs significant others (one is married, the other bought a house with his GF) to firearms in a non-threatening manner.
2. Ways of showing that firearms are proper tools in this day of age.
3. Facts and stats to combat the missinformation that they have been subjected to. Remember, neither of them are die hard antis, they just don't know any better.
Thanks in advance.
I.G.B.
But the fact is, many people out there have an irrational fear of firearms. That is the main concern here.
Rather than beating on my friends here, lets figure out a way to help them out.
So I am looking for:
1. Ways of introducing theirs significant others (one is married, the other bought a house with his GF) to firearms in a non-threatening manner.
2. Ways of showing that firearms are proper tools in this day of age.
3. Facts and stats to combat the missinformation that they have been subjected to. Remember, neither of them are die hard antis, they just don't know any better.
Thanks in advance.
I.G.B.
ojibweindian
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goon, you're absolutely right. It is a control issue.
I didn't have any guns in my apartment when my wife and I married, though I did own a couple (stored at parent's house at that time). I wasn't really into guns at the time, and I didn't have the money or time for it either. So, when I started getting back into shooting it was all new for my wife.
She resisted a little bit, but not to the extent we see here on the thread. After a few years she's gotten used to guns around the house, and she doesn't have a problem with it now.
I see alot of guys on this thread saying that you have to just grow a pair and tell your wife what you are going to do. I don't entirely agree, though I don't entirely disagree. Frankly, if I had acted like that I think it would have been a real problem in my relationship with my wife. Worse, I think that this problem would have been an entirely unnecessary one. There are very few women who can't be helped over their fear of guns, IMHO.
So, while I wouldn't accept my wife's fear, or her flat refusal to tolerate guns in the house, I'd just put it in different terms than those who say grow a pair and just buy one.
The man needs to take leadership in the family, especially on this issue. To me leadership isn't just doing whatever the heck you please, the rest of the world be da**ed. Leadership isn't going to get a drink of water for yourself. Its bringing a (sometimes) unwilling horse to get water and convincing him to drink. He will be much more useful to you alive then dead of thirst. Men today, IMHO, have often stopped leading. That sounds like its true for both these guys. Their wives/GFs telling them no guns and they just accept that?
I'd not just go out and buy whatever. I consider this more of an education issue. So, I'd sit down with the wife and talk about it. Explain what you want and why. Ask her why it bugs her, walk through it with her, and be prepared to respond to her various fears. You need to teach her why those fears are silly. You will also likely want to explain how you will keep the guns out of her sight, off her tables, in a safe or gun locker, etc. Those things help. Once you get it in the door, you keep leading and get her used to it over time. Anyway, after you explain what you are going to do, then you do it. If you don't have the cajones to lead here, you aren't much of a man. I'd probably also start small, either a .22 or a shotgun for ducks, etc. Buying a .50 cal might prove a bit too much a shock. A handgun shouldn't be a problem, but for many women it is. Personally, that wouldn't be the first gun I'd buy with a sceptical woman in the house. Break her in gently, but be resolute about it, and do it firmly.
Of course, itgoesboom, I think you are completely missing the best approach for you here. The wives/GFS don't want guns in their house? Well, your friends could always buy guns and store them at your house. Rent of course would be one box of ammo a month, and the freedom to use the gun at the range from time to time. Maybe you could even suggest a couple nice firearms that [delete]you[/delete] they might like to have.
patent
She resisted a little bit, but not to the extent we see here on the thread. After a few years she's gotten used to guns around the house, and she doesn't have a problem with it now.
I see alot of guys on this thread saying that you have to just grow a pair and tell your wife what you are going to do. I don't entirely agree, though I don't entirely disagree. Frankly, if I had acted like that I think it would have been a real problem in my relationship with my wife. Worse, I think that this problem would have been an entirely unnecessary one. There are very few women who can't be helped over their fear of guns, IMHO.
So, while I wouldn't accept my wife's fear, or her flat refusal to tolerate guns in the house, I'd just put it in different terms than those who say grow a pair and just buy one.
The man needs to take leadership in the family, especially on this issue. To me leadership isn't just doing whatever the heck you please, the rest of the world be da**ed. Leadership isn't going to get a drink of water for yourself. Its bringing a (sometimes) unwilling horse to get water and convincing him to drink. He will be much more useful to you alive then dead of thirst. Men today, IMHO, have often stopped leading. That sounds like its true for both these guys. Their wives/GFs telling them no guns and they just accept that?
I'd not just go out and buy whatever. I consider this more of an education issue. So, I'd sit down with the wife and talk about it. Explain what you want and why. Ask her why it bugs her, walk through it with her, and be prepared to respond to her various fears. You need to teach her why those fears are silly. You will also likely want to explain how you will keep the guns out of her sight, off her tables, in a safe or gun locker, etc. Those things help. Once you get it in the door, you keep leading and get her used to it over time. Anyway, after you explain what you are going to do, then you do it. If you don't have the cajones to lead here, you aren't much of a man. I'd probably also start small, either a .22 or a shotgun for ducks, etc. Buying a .50 cal might prove a bit too much a shock. A handgun shouldn't be a problem, but for many women it is. Personally, that wouldn't be the first gun I'd buy with a sceptical woman in the house. Break her in gently, but be resolute about it, and do it firmly.
Of course, itgoesboom, I think you are completely missing the best approach for you here. The wives/GFS don't want guns in their house? Well, your friends could always buy guns and store them at your house. Rent of course would be one box of ammo a month, and the freedom to use the gun at the range from time to time. Maybe you could even suggest a couple nice firearms that [delete]you[/delete] they might like to have.
patent
Strategy and Tact, guys. Saying "I'm the man, I wear the pants, I do what I damn well please and if you don't like it get lost" is not the best way to have a good relationship with anyone. Just as people here might be telling you to act that way if your SO doesn't like guns, they're going to have twice as many friends saying anyone who tries to pull that domineering 'boss of the household' stuff isn't worth their weight in guano.
Think dangerous territory... tactical entry, not charging in head first, gun in each hand blazing away.
Think dangerous territory... tactical entry, not charging in head first, gun in each hand blazing away.
itgoesboom
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Patent,
That is probably the best response yet in the thread.
I especially love the idea of keeping their firearms in my house .
Ofcourse there is one small problem with that.
My own wife has decided that I have enough firearms in the house, and she is strongly resisting me getting more. I have enough leverage to get two more in the next year or two (probably a hunting rifle later this year, and a .22lr for our expected child).
She isn't against me keeping guns in the house, but I think I might have pushed her acceptance to the limit.
Plus, it wouldn't be much help to my neighbor if someone broke into their house and their pistol was in my safe. Even worse for my friend who lives 40 minutes away.
I.G.B.
That is probably the best response yet in the thread.
I especially love the idea of keeping their firearms in my house
.Ofcourse there is one small problem with that.
My own wife has decided that I have enough firearms in the house, and she is strongly resisting me getting more. I have enough leverage to get two more in the next year or two (probably a hunting rifle later this year, and a .22lr for our expected child). She isn't against me keeping guns in the house, but I think I might have pushed her acceptance to the limit.
Plus, it wouldn't be much help to my neighbor if someone broke into their house and their pistol was in my safe. Even worse for my friend who lives 40 minutes away.
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