Glock Imperfection

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I think people that think Glocks are so great because so many in law enforcement are issued them, don't realize that price has a lot to do with it. And for that reason, Glocks are outstanding. Because at the price, nothing compares to their reliability, support, and serviceability.

But it doesn't mean that it's better than guns that cost more than Glocks.

I would gladly use a Glock to defend my life. But I'd gladly use an HK, Sig or 92FS as well. But personally, I wouldn't want to carry a Glock loaded in the chamber because SA with no safety isn't for me. If it could be decocked to DA, I'd definitely start looking into Glocks. Wait, but I just picked up a PM9. *** am I talking about?
 
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Let's beat another dead horse. :D

I hope the Sig Sauers the Police carry are the older one's. I wouldn't give you two cents for the newer ones, that the Kimber boy has managed to screw up. Pimp guns, and poor QC.

Been there, done that... Never Again.
 
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Mention Glock on the High Road and they will come. THR is the #1 hangout for the anti-Glock crowd. But even here they are not completely safe but it is their best haven.

So to all the Glock fans and those who are serious shooters ;) please go easy on those who are less fortunate than you.

Never seen a cop carry a Glock :D that is a good one...
 
Guillermo: "I am not saying that that is not true...I am sure you are being honest. Have you seen a policemen since 1990?"

See 'em all the time, weekly and sometimes daily, on the beat and in court. Local PD wear .40 Sigs, Maine State Troopers wear HK45s (swapped their Beretta 92FSs for them a few years back, the fools). Maine Fish and Game Wardens wear .357 Sigs. Going back to a dozen years ago, all Maryland cops carried Beretta 92FSs (not surprising, as they were made in Accoceek). Going back further than that, IL and Chicago cops carried a variety of arms, none of which included Glocks. I've seen cops in plenty of other states over the years, again, none of whom carried a Glock. Doesn't mean a few poor, ill-served cops in poor jurisdictions don't take the practically free plastic gun offered them, but I've yet to see it.

"The Glock is the most issued sidearm in the US and widely issued in Europe. Millions was being conservative."

Horse apples. The Beretta 92FS is the issue pistol of the United States Armed Forces. Several other pistols are issued in very small quantities, and Glocks are not among them, despite your bizarre claim in another post that the Marines carry them. And I'll be sure to stay out of the way of the "Fiji Tactical Response Unit" you cite. As to "millions being conservative," is this a joke? Do you think billions of Americans carry Glocks? No American soldier carries a Glock, and if more than a few thousand cops do, I'd be surprised.
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The DUCK of dope has spoken. :barf:
 
"fan boys"? could you define that?

Someone who gets mad if anything at all bad is said about a product/video game/Glock/whatever. Also known to post troll-like threads with titles like, "Glockz Rulez" and various combinations containing the words Glock and perfection.

For example, go to the CPU forum at Tom's Hardware and partake of the AMD (vs. Intel) fanboy postings. There are 2 or 3 of them that are just wonderful in their ability to stretch logic and ignore factual rebuttals.

Not to pick on anyone, much, but Glock fanboys are also known to post lists of armies around the world that use Glocks during a back-and-forth about U.S. police use. And speaking of obscure, I didn't even know Fiji had a Tactical Response Unit.

Glad you asked.
 
And I'll be sure to stay out of the way of the "Fiji Tactical Response Unit" you cite.
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Thats classic right there. :D

I checked with a cop buddy of mine who advised they use Sigs in 40 s&w. (cherry hill pd, nj)
 
I have a good friend that is FBI SWAT. He is issued a Glock 22 and a Springfield Armory Profesional. He carries the Glock all the time instead of the Springfield. He gets capacity and easier maintainance with the Glock. the Glock has those little finger ribs on all of the current models that make it feel like holding a bag of marbels to me. I have a large hand (the XVR fits a little small) Alot of my students carry a Glock which is fine by me as long as they can qualify with it.
 
pull up Google and type in "65% of law enforcement agencies glock" and see what you get.

Of course the flat earth people will say that because they can't see the curvature of the earth, it isn't there.
 
pull up Google and type in "65% of law enforcement agencies glock" and see what you get.
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SIG claims 30%
H&K claims 15%
S&W claims ~15%
Springfield claims ~10%

and there are couple more fine pistols on the market.

you see.. the nummbers dont add up.

who is right and who is wrong?
probably none of them.
 
I figure if I keep shooting my Glock until it explodes that it'll reduce wear-and-tear on my other/better firearms.
 
Fiji Tactical Response Unit Disbanded!

NEWSFLASH!

The Fiji Tactical Response Unti has been disbanded (since 2007):

http://www.rnzi.com/pages/news.php?op=read&id=29931

Posted at 22:48 on 05 February, 2007 UTC

Fiji’s military says it disbanded the Police Tactical Response Unit set up by the former commissioner because it had compromised its role.

In a statement, the acting police commissioner, Lt Col Jimi Koroi, says the unit had come under heavy suspicion from the army and its members showed overt signs of indiscipline.

Lt Col Koroi says apart from the seven divers, the Bomb Disposal Unit and a Half Riot Squad, all other members of the Police Tactical Response Unit have been transferred to perform normal police duties.

Towards the end of last year former commissioner Hughes, who fled the country a few days before the coup, had assigned the Police Tactical Response Unit to provide security for members of the Qarase government.

Lt Col Koroi says the unit appeared to be compromised when it was used for purposes other than what was intended.

Last week the military seized illegal sniper rifles from the homes of two of its officers, one of whom was arrested by the military.

The Land Force commander, Col Pita Driti, says they wanted the Unit removed because there was too much drama surrounding it and it was a waste of taxpayers’ money.

News Content © Radio New Zealand International
PO Box 123, Wellington, New Zealand

Glock Perfection. See Reason #7 from Post #5.
 
Glocks may not be for everyone. They may not be the most comfortable. But they are some of the most durable, and best performing pistols and for only about $500. The glock 19 is the most practical firearm I own.

Swedish army chicks are hot! (post 25)
 
RE: police carrying glocks, in the article "The Glock: Tips for selling more of this hot seller" from the 2004 edition of "shooting industry magazine," Massad Ayoob says:
For some years, Glock's market domination of law enforcement held steady at about 63 percent. More recently, reports indicated that 70 percent or more of new police handguns sold in his country are Glocks.
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http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3197/is_5_49/ai_n6054266
 
Down with the finger grooooves!!! I'm not the only one who doesn't have massively fat fingers.

Please!
 
SaMx (quoting MA): "For some years, Glock's market domination of law enforcement held steady at about 63 percent. More recently, reports indicated that 70 percent or more of new police handguns sold in his country are Glocks."

Source?

What does "reports indicated" mean?

I strongly suspect MA extracted this figure from his own rectum one night during a determined session of seated ankle-holster draw practice.
 
johnBT, thanks for the definition, I can honestly say that I have never heard it before.
I have to admit that I don't have a strong love or hate for glocks, but I do respect their qualities for the price. As far as cops that are issued them, Detroit P.D. is issued Glocks (or at least they were as of a few years ago) and they are allowed to carry FMJ's ONLY! Hollow points are labeled as "inhumane" by the classy powers that be in that hole of a city. Also, several of the suburbs issue Glocks (a lot of cities have a "list" of firearms officers may carry, to be fair though).
 
I don't know much about where the figures cited above came from, but I find myself in the company of a lot of LEOs and, unlike Duke, have noted that the vast majority of the cops and agents I run into do carry Glocks. Having said that, the purchasing decisions of police agencies are not necessarily based solely on quality or reliability; as has been pointed out, Glock's very favorable pricing certainly plays a role.

Which leads me to this--I do like Glocks. Their simplicity of design and proven reliability over the past couple of decades are indisputable. I see a lot of prettier guns, but I remain convinced that a properly maintained Glock has a better chance of firing accurately when the SHTF than most anything else out there. However, I would never claim that they are utterly invincible.

I can understand that the ergonomics, the looks, or other aspects of the Glocks design may not work for some people. But it works for me, and ultimately that's all that counts.
 
Way back there I did express an opinion that Glocks blow up more than others, but WOW this thread has just gone crazy what with Glocks being the most used gun in the universe. Maybe, just maybe someone ought to find out how many CZ75b's are being used throughout the world. Hint:
A lot.
 
Millions? I don't think so. Maybe thousands. Our Army and many others carry the Beretta 92FS, and I've never seen a cop with a Glock -- anywhere. Doesn't mean there aren't thousands who do carry them, but, "millions"? No.
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DOD you must be blind because in the thread where he cited millions carry glocks he included civilians. Do you honestly think for a second that millions of people around he world don't carry a glock. I don't know about you but I live in pretty upscale town. Top 100 in Forbes for years running. The issue weapon here for 10 or so years have been glocks. So I wouldn't limit them to just the low rent districts. Now I am not saying they are the best or the worst but in a country with 300+ million firearms its niave to think millions arent being carried.
 
Dear lord, how do you people find the time or energy to debate this kind of silliness? ;) More to the point - how does the POPULARITY of a thing have anything to do with its relative merit? The mere existence of Paris Hilton should have disabused y'all long ago that exposure and popularity == merit. :)

Hostile Amish did a good job of providing actual CONTENT in post #42 (altho you *can* run cast thru a Glock if you're careful).

My principal complaints with Glock include a grip angle that differs from my other pistols and that therefore FUBARs my muscle memory, and the fact that I cannot push-cock it (nor can I push cock a 92F or P226 or CZ75).
 
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