iluv308
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just curious?
has anyone stopped a bear with a 9mm or 45?
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Dilettante
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If even somebody had, I wouldn't count on it for my life!
C.R.Sam
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Try searchin using bear and 9mm.
Not too long ago there was an article posted describing the demise of a brownie due to insertion of 9mm. All the guy had so he did what he had to do.
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Not too long ago there was an article posted describing the demise of a brownie due to insertion of 9mm. All the guy had so he did what he had to do.
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Wildalaska
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Hi two years ago a young fellow killed a young griz with a 9mm glock on the Kenai, this summer one of my customers stopped a charging sow with a 10mm...
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Parker Dean
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Then again I'm mindful of the (probably apocryphal) story of the gravestone in Canada that tells of the great hunter that killed 10 out of 11 bears with a .22...
Keith
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There's "bears" and there's "bears".
There are 150 pound black bears and 1500 pound brown bears.
There are cowards who take as single hit from a small caliber and run away and there are angry bears that take multiple hits from a .375 and still kill the shooter before they die.
Most bear "attacks" are really just a behavior known as a "false charge" - they dash at you, snapping their jaws, etc, with no intention of actually making contact with you. It's just a demonstration of dominance or territoriality to protect a fishing hole or berry patch. These (I suspect) are the bears that take a hit and turn tail and run.
Keith
There are 150 pound black bears and 1500 pound brown bears.
There are cowards who take as single hit from a small caliber and run away and there are angry bears that take multiple hits from a .375 and still kill the shooter before they die.
Most bear "attacks" are really just a behavior known as a "false charge" - they dash at you, snapping their jaws, etc, with no intention of actually making contact with you. It's just a demonstration of dominance or territoriality to protect a fishing hole or berry patch. These (I suspect) are the bears that take a hit and turn tail and run.
Keith
A few years ago a NYPD officer shot and killed a polar bear at the zoo with his .38 special. One shot!
Seems an EDP climbed into the polar bear's cage and the bear took offense and started chewing on him. NYPD officer ran to the scene and fired 1 shot. End of bear. EDP died too. Officer's new nickname is "Nanook of New York."
Seems an EDP climbed into the polar bear's cage and the bear took offense and started chewing on him. NYPD officer ran to the scene and fired 1 shot. End of bear. EDP died too. Officer's new nickname is "Nanook of New York."
Chairman Meow
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I'm getting this mental image of a little guy with a plastic pistol getting devoured by a bear with a little boo-boo on his tummy. Hehe. Personally I'd follow the 9mm up with a well placed fragmentation grenade or two...
Personally I'd follow the 9mm up with a well placed fragmentation grenade or two...spacemanspiff
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actually, it was a ruger p89. i've seen the kid shooting at rabbit creek. hes not too bad with it. his brother was also there on the kenai with a SKS. the papers didnt mention that at all though. a total of 7 rounds were fired at the sow, from both the 9mm and 7.62x39 rifle.
10-Ring
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Man, you gotta have the gods smiling on you or you have to be cheating somehow to make that work on a consistent basis! 9mm or 45 acp vs. a bear
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Add to that "shotgun" and "thrown at bear"
Here it is...
http://www.adn.com/front/story/1633810p-1751603c.html
WonderNine
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I had to shoot a grizzly bear once with 9mm. I shot him about 15 times and he just kinda snarled at me and said "that tickles", yes he was a talking bear. Anyways, then I shot him with the .45 and he went flying backwards and died instantly. It also broke my wrist and the recoil caused the gun to hit me in the forehead.
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"I had to shoot a grizzly bear once with 9mm. I shot him about 15 times and he just kinda snarled at me and said "that tickles", yes he was a talking bear. Anyways, then I shot him with the .45 and he went flying backwards and died instantly. It also broke my wrist and the recoil caused the gun to hit me in the forehead."
That's why you need to use both hands when shooting a real man's caliber.
That's why you need to use both hands when shooting a real man's caliber.
ChuckB
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I believe I once read that the North American record black bear was killed by an Indian woman using a .22 rifle. It's really all about shot placement, then, isn't it (and a major dash of luck)?
Chuk
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What do you guys think?
If you don't have a rifle or shotgun handy and only a pistol on you (not every situation can one pack a long gun on them), is the 10mm the MINIMUM cartridge to use on Black Bear? I know the .41 magnum and .44 magnum are better, but is the 10mm marginal? Just for the sake of discussion....
If you don't have a rifle or shotgun handy and only a pistol on you (not every situation can one pack a long gun on them), is the 10mm the MINIMUM cartridge to use on Black Bear? I know the .41 magnum and .44 magnum are better, but is the 10mm marginal? Just for the sake of discussion....
Parker Dean
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Well, if I had to use a 10 on a bear then I really wouldn't want to have anything less than some of Doubletap's TMC ammo (or similar handload). A lot of the regular commercial ammo is loaded about like .40 S&W (Short&Weak )
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And just what company's ammo was that, huh? LOL!
Anyway, I look on handguns vs bears as a poor second choice for defense so I'm not going to be all that thrilled with any handgun cartridge in that sort of situation. OTOH I'd jump at a 10 over a 9 or 45.
Anyway, I look on handguns vs bears as a poor second choice for defense so I'm not going to be all that thrilled with any handgun cartridge in that sort of situation. OTOH I'd jump at a 10 over a 9 or 45.
Aikibiker
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10mm on Grizzlies
Didn't H&K make an MP-5 chambered in 10mm? If I have to face a bear with a pistol caliber I'll take one of those. In full auto with a 30 round magazine please.
Of course I know little about such things. Here in Florida most of the bears are about the size of a large dog.
Didn't H&K make an MP-5 chambered in 10mm? If I have to face a bear with a pistol caliber I'll take one of those. In full auto with a 30 round magazine please.
Of course I know little about such things. Here in Florida most of the bears are about the size of a large dog.
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