Have you ever experienced an AD or ND?

[rainbowbob]

There are only 2 kinds of shooters; those who have had an AD, and those who WILL.

Recently a poster posited the above notion in another thread.

I answered that if I believed that, I'd sell my firearms. I'd have to admit that firearms are inherently dangerous and that NO amount of discipline and safe handling practices will overcome that inherent danger.

I will state emphatically that I DON'T believe that.


What do YOU believe?


[Oops! I forgot to include "NO" as an option.Please use "Other" if you have NOT experienced an AD or ND.]

 

[glove]

Poll: Have you ever experienced an AD or ND?
No.

 

[Hawthorne2k]

Not yet.

 

[CoRoMo]

I took my Beretta 391 out to bust some clays last winter. I don't have a thrower, so I hand-toss 'em. Whenever I hand-toss clays, I hold the forend with my left hand and throw with my right. Loaded up and ready to rock, I fling a couple discs out into the air and start to bring the gun up to my shoulder. As my right hand is quickly trying to find its grip on the stock, my finger shoots right through the trigger guard and...

Luckily the muzzle discipline rendered the lack of trigger discipline innocuous.

1. I need to practice more so that my finger doesn't do that upon a quick grip.
2. I need a clay thrower.
3. I need to constantly refresh all safety procedures so that if I have another ND, it ends the same way.

 

[esheato]

I answered yes because a friend discharged one of my guns into my home, but it wasn't me who pulled the trigger. Still, it was my fault for leaving it accessible.

 

[wow6599]

Never

 

[Joe Demko]

AD. Safety problem with a Remington 600. They were later recalled.

 

[Mags]

Had a Glock 23 that at random trigger pulls would fire a 2-3 round burst.

 

[thunder173]

60 years old here pretty quick,..and have been shooting since I was a pup. No AD's,...no ND's,...and I don't believe that stuff about either you have,..or you will have one. Keep your firearms in good repair,..and your wits about you when handling them. Make safe gun handling an absolute habit, and accept nothing less from others.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

One ND, one target shot by mistake. That is all I am going to say.

 

[ccsniper]

AD and ND.

 

[hso]

One of each.

 

[CoRoMo]

I guess I've had one of each then. A Stoeger Condor I was trying out, would randomly fire both barrels at one pull of the trigger. I decided not to buy it.

 

[stchman]

My Tokarev had a malfunctioning hammer assembly. It would result in a 2-3 round burst.

Needless to say it startled the bejeezuz out of me.

The hammer assembly was replaced and the problem never re-surfaced again.

 

[rbernie]

Yes, I have had an ND. It was preventable and I flatly screwed up.

 

[boostedxt]

no...i hope I dont ever have one.

joe

 

[jleyring]

I have never, and I have to agree with you. Accidents happen, but to say that everyone is goin to have a gun accident that just fuels anti-gun people.

 

[swinokur]

no....

 

[jeepguy]

yes i did have a nd but i was lucky i was at the rifle range with the rifle still pointed downrange. i had been loading mags with the same amount of rounds and on the last mag of the day i had one extra round left over. so i figured i would just use it up. well you guessed it i fired the same amount i had been loading & forgot i had one extra. when i was done i accidentilly (stupidly) forgot about it. when i took the mag out i wanted to dry fire it. but i did point it in asafe dirictionj before doing so. so one good safty rule saved me from making a grave mistake becuse of my stupidity. i was going shooting with a friend & while in a hurry multi tasking, ejected the round in the chamber & then took out the mag. when i was loading his van doulble checked the pistol by always checking the chamber first & when doing this another round ejected. boy was i surprised. but agin the good safty practice of visually checking the chamber & keeping your finger off the trigger when handleing a firearm saved me from a nd. even though i unloaded it earlier, i still while picking it up, took the time to visually checked the chamber. thankfully. when i did this my thoughts werer i must be the only one to do this.

 

[rainbowbob]

I appreciate the candor from those experienced shooters who have had an ND. It furthers my resolve to NEVER become complacent and to be VERY mindful at all times.

 

[Rshooter]

ND....attempting to clear a stuck rat shot round in the chamber of a bolt action .22. While attempting to manipulate the bolt my finger slipped off of the trigger guard. The gun was pointed in a safe direction and other than severe embarrassment everything was ok.

 

[WardenWolf]

No. Never had one. I attribute that to knowing my weapons, their quirks, and the care involved with handling them. If my gun has a decocker, I use it, AFTER verifying there is no chance it could malfunction and cause an AD. The Makarov-style decockers are my favorite. They fully block the firing pin with a two-pronged guard before releasing the hammer. They're a very good, very safe design. The Tokarev requires a bit more care with handling because it only has a trigger block safety and no decocker. It does, however, have a solid half-cock position and a very easy two-handed way to safely lower it to half-cock.

 

[Strahley]

No. However, I have a funny/scary story from the range

While back, I was shooting a Glock 23. Typically, I just insert a full mag of 13 and shoot those. However I decided this one time, I wanted to do 13+1 instead. So I started shooting, counting the rounds. By the time I got near the end, I forgot that I started with +1. I counted 13, and the slide locked back, so I assumed I was finished. I decided I wanted to do a quick dry fire to see if I was flinching, so I hit the slide release

"Knowing" the gun was empty and that I was pointing it in a safe direction, I decided to go ahead and pull the trigger. Imagine my surprise when I heard a BANG instead of a click

So what happened? I guess on my 13th shot, my thumb was riding too high and I engaged the slide lever, locking the slide, making me think I was finished with the magazine. I didn't even think to look at the chamber, since I was able to point the gun down range while dry firing. I did learn my lesson though. Never again will I rely on my counting!

 

[JellyJar]

Never

 

[Kentucky_Rifleman]

I've had both.

I started shooting at age 6 and grew up around guns. I got careless with a 9mm S&W once. Lack of load discipline but sound muzzle discipline put a round into the dirt 6 feet in front of me.

My Remington Mohawk 600 will still AD if you flip the safety on, squeeze the trigger, and then flip the safety off again.

KR