How embarassing...
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Ed Ames
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I could care less what people do so long as it doesn't directly and demonstrably harm me. I'm in the minority on that.
The whole argument for CCW is that it's not the odds, it's the possible consequences.
Your argument about printing being OK seems analogous to, "I've been to hundreds, if not thousands, of places and nobody has attacked me so you don't need to have a gun."
The whole argument for CCW is that it's not the odds, it's the possible consequences.
Your argument about printing being OK seems analogous to, "I've been to hundreds, if not thousands, of places and nobody has attacked me so you don't need to have a gun."
DoubleTapDrew
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ALWAYS carry, especially at home. It'll begin to feel like part of you so you aren't so conscious of it when out and about.
tydephan
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Avenger said:
No need to be embarrassed. It could have been a guess, a tug, a limp, his x-ray vision, etc.
My advice? Ask him.
230RN
2A was "political" when it was first adopted.
'Twas the twinkle in thine eye, doubtless.
"Not to derail the conversation too much, but... anyone have any tips for "smoothing" the transition so that people don't notice a big change all at once when you switch from no-carry to carry? "
Yeah. Keep carrying 24/7. It will go away, like a cold. The gender equipment reference above was perfectly apropos.
At least for us guys.
"Not to derail the conversation too much, but... anyone have any tips for "smoothing" the transition so that people don't notice a big change all at once when you switch from no-carry to carry? "
Yeah. Keep carrying 24/7. It will go away, like a cold. The gender equipment reference above was perfectly apropos.
At least for us guys.
romma
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I hate having to do the tug... I feel like everyone knows,,, my little secret.
Seriously though, here you better do the tug... And don't print.
Ed Ames
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The "always" rule is pretty good.
But...
Like many people I work for a company that bars employees from concealed carry on the job. Being discovered by the wrong person to be in violaton of that policy may result in loss of employment. When the policy went into effect several of us went and talked to the owner but the response was just, "our HR consultants say we need that," and the final word was an off record, "You weren't discovered before, what are the odds of you being discovered now? But if you are discovered you may lose your job." That was before we were aquired by a much larger company that had an almost identically worded anti-ccw policy. It's a good job I want to keep for at least another 3 years.
On top of that, Texas has a range of anti-concealed-carry laws. You can't carry in bars for example. I don't go to bars that often but sometimes coworkers or friends want to have lunch in a place that is posted 51%. That's a rotten hole in the Texas CHL law but it seems like Texans are seriously untrustworthy around alcohol. TX has a ton of restrictive alcohol laws. They wouldn't have those laws if there wasn't a problem.
So how do I follow the "always" rule?
Carry a really small gun and run the risk?
Carry a dummy gun/empty holster/cigarette lighter gun while at work so that if I am caught I won't have been in violation of company policy? That may not save my job of course.
I'm just not sure how to do it.
My TX CHL class is scheduled for the 15th of this month so it's all new to me.
But...
Like many people I work for a company that bars employees from concealed carry on the job. Being discovered by the wrong person to be in violaton of that policy may result in loss of employment. When the policy went into effect several of us went and talked to the owner but the response was just, "our HR consultants say we need that," and the final word was an off record, "You weren't discovered before, what are the odds of you being discovered now? But if you are discovered you may lose your job." That was before we were aquired by a much larger company that had an almost identically worded anti-ccw policy. It's a good job I want to keep for at least another 3 years.
On top of that, Texas has a range of anti-concealed-carry laws. You can't carry in bars for example. I don't go to bars that often but sometimes coworkers or friends want to have lunch in a place that is posted 51%. That's a rotten hole in the Texas CHL law but it seems like Texans are seriously untrustworthy around alcohol. TX has a ton of restrictive alcohol laws. They wouldn't have those laws if there wasn't a problem.
So how do I follow the "always" rule?
Carry a really small gun and run the risk?
Carry a dummy gun/empty holster/cigarette lighter gun while at work so that if I am caught I won't have been in violation of company policy? That may not save my job of course.
I'm just not sure how to do it.
My TX CHL class is scheduled for the 15th of this month so it's all new to me.
DoubleTapDrew
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I should have worded it differently. I mean carry it every second you are able to legally, so you'll get so used to it that it feels like a part of your body and you feel naked without it. If you don't have your CHL yet that pretty much limits you to at home, but as soon as you get home, strap it on and keep it on until you go to bed. You'll get used to moving around, sitting, reaching, kneeling, etc. with it quicker so it won't feel awkward when in public.
I don't know if I'd bother with an empty holster at work. The weight is a big part of the tugging, readjusting reactions.
I don't know if I'd bother with an empty holster at work. The weight is a big part of the tugging, readjusting reactions.
Ed Ames
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My big concern is the difference in appearance/dress/movements/body shape a month or two from now being noticed because they are different from today's norm.
I've been doing the "arround the house" thing for a while. It helps with a lot of the "realities of carry" type issues but obviously it won't help with the "why do his clothes suddenly fit differently?" problem..
People are VERY good at noticing changes day to day. Not so good at noticing a little differences that accumulate into a big difference but almost every time I've changed something significantly and suddenly (style of dress, accessories, car, work hours, parking spot preference, etc) it has been commented on by coworkers.
I've been doing the "arround the house" thing for a while. It helps with a lot of the "realities of carry" type issues but obviously it won't help with the "why do his clothes suddenly fit differently?" problem..
People are VERY good at noticing changes day to day. Not so good at noticing a little differences that accumulate into a big difference but almost every time I've changed something significantly and suddenly (style of dress, accessories, car, work hours, parking spot preference, etc) it has been commented on by coworkers.
bogie
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All the more reason to carry a small gun constantly, than a larger gun all the time. I can stick my Kel-Tec .380 in a pocket holster, and not even remember it's there after a few minutes...
BTW, if any of y'all are familiar with Don the Leather Guy from Knob Creek, he does some EXCELLENT Kel-Tec holsters, which will be available for sale online pretty soon now... PM me if you are interested.
BTW, if any of y'all are familiar with Don the Leather Guy from Knob Creek, he does some EXCELLENT Kel-Tec holsters, which will be available for sale online pretty soon now... PM me if you are interested.
I talked with him again today, all he could say was that I looked, and I quote, "Different. Not any specific thing, just some kind of cop radar at work."
He was already inside the store, no way did he see me before I waved to him.
I've got to say, I took a look at myself in a tri-view mirror....and I'll be dipped if I can see a darn thing different between armed and unarmed, and I know exactly WHERE to look.
Hmmm, since I normally carry 24/7 (metaphorically, I don't sleep with an IWB in my jammies, sheesh) when possible, he's only seen me walking ABNORMALLY, i.e. without that extra weight affecting my stride.
He was already inside the store, no way did he see me before I waved to him.
I've got to say, I took a look at myself in a tri-view mirror....and I'll be dipped if I can see a darn thing different between armed and unarmed, and I know exactly WHERE to look.
Hmmm, since I normally carry 24/7 (metaphorically, I don't sleep with an IWB in my jammies, sheesh) when possible, he's only seen me walking ABNORMALLY, i.e. without that extra weight affecting my stride.
Otahyoni
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Dang you Walton! 
I was just getting ready to quote that. I got a good laugh out of imagining Sig answering a mag.
I was just getting ready to quote that. I got a good laugh out of imagining Sig answering a mag.- Status
