Okay, Okay. I will join the ceasefire.
When LEO's get away with murder, rape, planting evidence, acting like they are gods, etc, I will no longer let it bother me.
I am yours Mr and Mrs LEO (or is that just plain SIR, YES SIR?). You are my god and I must obey you at all times.
Yes, I guess no-knocks are justified, never know when you may just get the right person or group, a few old ladies and kids are worth it. My bad.
To all the LEO's on the board, since I am now, by law, forced to give my name, It's Wayne L. Weaver II. I don't have to give anything else. Do with it what you please. I may have a warrent in NY, didn't turn in my tags. That's good enough for "felon" I guess.
Yes, I'm being sarcastic, but that's what we, the (I hate this damn word) "civilians" are getting from the LEO's. Yet you won't listen to us but we must give you a pass because "you want to go home".
Hell, I wanted to "go home" when I was in Saudi Arabia. I wanted to "go home" when I was in Kuwait. But I wasn't an ??????? to the native peoples. Even when I had a "bad day" I didn't beat the crap out of a "citizen" because they "made a wrong move". I didn't use force until I knew they had the means (at hand) to do so. If a unit had to do a "no knock" on a place we gave them that intel. We didn't just go off the "word" of some idiot or someone wanting their enemies killed, we double, triple and then rechecked the information before we sent it out.
The Army and Marine units then did a forgotten art of doing a "stake out" to ensure the intel was creditable before they went in with guns ablasting, gernades, what have you.
Oh, and we double checked that the address or location was correct. No "opps, sorry we killed your grandma" mistakes.
And for the LEO's on this board, you know DAMN well that gun laws are null and void (due to that piece of paper, remember that one?) but you will "carry out the law". In my eyes you're no better than the socialist and commies that are in office today. You may have a great career in politics, which means Chief of Police or something.
I know that you feel that anything an LEO does, legal or illegal, is JUSTIFIED because you just want to come home. So you should agree with me that we that were and are in the military should be justified to just go through a town and just mow down every man that we find. Hell, we just wanted to come home also. Many did, many didn't.
You want to talk about fear? Ask the Army and Marine units that are in Iraq right now. Even talk to the Air Force. Yes, we were behind our fences but we had the Army and the Marines making sure we were safe. Yet things do get through the fences, or I should say, over the fences. You go on a call and you "may" have to use force, you have a car or suicide bomber and you WILL have to use force.
I'm just so sick and tired of LEO's whining about how hard they have it, how stressful you have it, the divorce rate, the "it's okay to be an ??????? because of my job", etc..
More "civilians" die each year from crime then that of the LEO. In my eyes, being in the military during wartime is 1st on the most "dangerous job" list. The second is being a "civilian". In the crime rate reports, I don't hear about LEO's being killed on a regular basis, but I do see that about "civilians". If one LEO is killed then it's front news, but if a single "civilian" gets killed it's tucked away on page A9. I don't see many front page stories.
Any death, that of an LEO or of a Civilian is bad. Yet when an LEO is killed then the "boys in blue" will do nothing for the "civilians" because they have to find the killer of one of their own. Yet if a civilian is killed, then it's a "routine investagation"... that is if they even bother.
But, it really doesn't matter. DMF is trolling. He doesn't bother to read the post for what they are, but does a "body count" on what he believes is bashing.
I have nothing against LEO's. I'm just afraid of them. Why, am I a mafia hitman?, am I a drug addict?, am I a felon?, am I a low life bg?.
NO.
I'm not any of that. I am a law abiding citizen with enemies. Some of those enemies are drug addicts, ones that I've turned in personally.
Too many verifiable stories out there about "informents" who may give up my address and a no knock could happen.
Too many cops that are "stressed" (I guess that's the word) that have a tendency to shoot first and then cover it up later.
Too many cops raping people (read the Eugene news, you'll see what I mean). It's been women but when will that one that enjoys blow (you know what) stops me?
Too many verifiable stories of "opps" where kids, grandmothers, and people who are innocent get shot or die of medical reasons.
The SC stated that you don't have a responsibility to "protect and serve" but I don't think they had the state of mind to give you a pass on "Attack and Kill".
But, I could be wrong.
I am more than willing to speak with others and tell them (LEO's) what I think is going on and then listen to what they think is going on and then work together to make it right.
Until then. We are all suspects and "scum" to you, and to us you're just bad cops who wish to hurt/kill us or force your authority upon us.
Until then, expect the so called cop bashing, as we will expect the "civilian" bashing (or the talking down to).
Wayne
most possibly the next one to be banned cause I speak my mind.
