McCain and Hillary rally illegal aliens

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McCain and Hillary Rally Illegals
by Terence P. Jeffrey
from www.humaneventsonline.com

Senators John McCain (R.-Ariz.) and Hillary Clinton (D.-N.Y.), the current frontrunners for their parties’ 2008 presidential nominations, joined Senators Teddy Kennedy (D.-Mass.) and Charles Schumer (D.-N.Y,) in rallying a group of illegal aliens who came to Washington, D.C., on March 8 as part of a lobbying effort funded by a foreign government to push for amnesty for illegal aliens.

McCain and Clinton both effusively greeted the illegal-alien lobbyists as if they had come to champion some great moral and constitutional cause.

“It is so heartening to see you here,” said Clinton. “You are really here on behalf of what America means, America’s values, America’s hopes.”

“You are doing what democracy is supposed to be all about, petitioning the government to right a wrong,” said McCain.

The lobbyists, part of an effort organized by the Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform (ILIR), were not petitioning their own government, of course. They were petitioning our government, using Irish government money to do it.

What is the ILIR? “The purpose of the new organization is to lobby for immigration reform at a local level, with a particular emphasis on the legislation proposed by Senators John McCain and Edward Kennedy (the ‘Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act’),” says a January 23 press release put out by Ireland’s Department of Foreign Affairs. “This will include lobbying congressmen and senators in a bipartisan manner.”

The Irish government has launched an all-out effort for the McCain-Kennedy immigration bill because it would grant amnesty to illegal aliens in the U.S. by converting them into legal guest workers. Funding ILIR is part of Ireland’s pro-McCain-Kennedy campaign.

“The ILIR has been established at a particularly critical time in the U.S. as the legislative debate on this issue enters an important phase,” Irish Foreign Minister Dermot Ahern said in the January 23 release. “The ILIR is throwing

its weight behind the McCain/Kennedy immigration reform bill. … The positive initiative taken by Senators McCain and Kennedy in the U.S. Senate, mirrored by Representatives [Jim] Kolbe [R.-Ariz.], [Jeff] Flake [R.-Ariz.], and [Luis] Gutierrez [D.-Ill.] in the House of Representatives would enable undocumented Irish people to participate in the life of their adopted country, free from fear and uncertainty.”

In debates on the floor of the Irish legislature, the Irish government has made clear that this amnesty provision is why they especially like McCain-Kennedy. “We believe this [McCain-Kennedy] remains the most attractive approach for the undocumented Irish, as it includes provisions which would allow undocumented people to apply initially for Temporary Residence Status, but with a route to Permanent Residency,” Noel Treacy, Ireland’s minister of European Affairs said in Ireland’s legislature on February 15. “We know that Senators Kennedy and McCain and other like-minded senators remain convinced that proposals that require undocumented people to return home before applying for re-entry to the U.S. are not practical and will not encourage the undocumented to come out of the shadows.”

In a February 22 debate in the Irish legislature, Foreign Minister Ahern said he had encouraged the creation of the illegal-alien lobbying organization in the U.S. “Deputies can be assured that in all my meetings with U.S. contacts, including Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and key congressional figures, I made known the support of the government … for the approach favoured by Senators Kennedy and McCain,” said Ahern. “Their bill has also been strongly endorsed by the Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform, a group established in December to mobilize grassroots support within the Irish community in the U.S. for immigration reform. I welcome the establishment of this organization. I encouraged the formation of such an organization and recently approved a grant of €30,000 towards its operational expenses.”

The Irish Times, published in Dublin, trumpeted the fact that “illegals” had rallied on Capitol Hill with McCain, Clinton, Kennedy and Schumer. One Times story on March 9 was headlined: “‘Illegals’ lobby for right to stay in U.S.”

“Capitol Hill became a sea of green and white yesterday as thousands of undocumented Irish immigrants came out of the shadows for immigration reform,” said the Times. “They were rewarded with appearances from some of the most influential figures in Congress, including the two front-runners to succeed President Bush—Senators John McCain and Hillary Clinton.”

Another item in the Irish Times, with the headline “Irish rally to press for legal status in America,” said: “More than 2,400 undocumented Irish immigrants and their supporters rallied in Washington yesterday in support of an immigration reform bill that would allow them to remain in the U.S. legally.” This report further noted that “Senators Kennedy, John McCain, Hillary Clinton and Charles Schumer addressed the demonstrators, who wore white T-shirts with the slogan ‘Legalize the Irish.’”

“There has never been a presence like we’ve had today,” Clinton told the crowd of illegal aliens, according to the Irish Times.

“This kind of reception is enough to make a guy want to run for President of the United States,” said McCain, after the illegal aliens gave him a standing ovation.

Clinton and McCain may think their pandering will appeal to Irish-American voters. But when they run in the United States of America in 2008, they just might find that their fawning words for a foreign-government-funded lobby that flouts U.S. immigration law sounded more like fighting words to many plain, old-fashioned, red-blooded voters—even if they happen to be proud, law-abiding Irish-Americans.
 
Well, well, McCain and Hillary agree on a major divisive issue in the country.

Somebody stop the lovefest! :barf:

Is there anybody left that believes that voting for a third party is not the only sane choice?
 
As I recall, wasn't there an Irish brigade that fought with Mexico against the USA?:scrutiny:
Hey! I'm an American Scandanavian!:neener:
Biker
 
The borders are gone. It's a done deal. There are maybe 20 million illegals in our country and all the pols will do is tell us what *can't* be done. We have the money, technology and manpower to enforce our laws, protect our borders and expell the parasites, but it would take a politician with morals and conviction to stand up and say that this is what we should do.
Tancredo is the closest pol to that definition.
In other words, we're doomed.
Biker
 
Darnit! I'm a Lilthoanian-American. When is the government going to wake up and do the right thing? Everyone in the Eastern Block deserves a chance at free medical care, wellfare, jobs that only some Americans want, and free schooling for thier children. We need to open up our borders to unrestricted access to services.

It's the right thing to do. It's why we're here.

Question: Do we even check passports coming in to the country any longer? If so - why on earth do we bother?
 
For years I've been saying Hillary will NEVER be a presidential nominee.
Here's my logic:

1. She has no chance of winning. She can raise all the cash she wants, she just stands no chance of winning.

2. She can't win because she's a lightning rod. I don't know a single Republican who likes her. None. For years Republican commentators have "speculated" on the air that she would run for president. They often ddi this just to rally the troops because so many conservatives hate the Clintons.

3. She's not moderate enough to get swing voters to vote for her. I've traditionally been a Democrat, but I do not identify with her on a number of issues. And I would hate to see who she would appoint to key positions, but I imagine they would be more in line with, say, Jesse Jackson than Sam Nunn or Colin Powell (two true moderates).

4. She's so divisive that her candidacy would actually motivate conservatives (especially the "Christian Right") to the polls in record numbers. In other words, she brings with her the opposite of coat tails. Her candidacy would actually harm the Democratic party at the national, state, and local levels. Many candidates who would otherwise win in their own right would lose from the straght-ticket Republican voting of the folks bused in to vote against her.

Anyway, I assumed somebody with half a brain in the Democratic party would point that out, but then, we aren't organized at all (Truman said, "i don't belong to an organized political party. I'm a Democrat.").
Looks like its still true. She's raising too much money to stick with the Senate. What a selfish move.
-David
 
I'd rather shoot it out with MS-13 than mess with the ATF, which is what it may come down to. Meth is coming into it's own in my area and it's being brought in mainly by Mexicans. Nothing racist about that statement, just the way it is.
Biker
 
“There has never been a presence like we’ve had today,” Clinton told the crowd of illegal aliens, according to the Irish Times.

“This kind of reception is enough to make a guy want to run for President of the United States,” said McCain, after the illegal aliens gave him a standing ovation.

:barf: :fire: :cuss: :banghead:
 
I'd rather shoot it out with MS-13 than mess with the ATF, which is what it may come down to. Meth is coming into it's own in my area and it's being brought in mainly by Mexicans. Nothing racist about that statement, just the way it is.
Biker


Biker,
you are correct that current meth traffic is mostly Mexican. Its all about supply, demand, economics, and practicalities. The new laws regulating the sale of meth ingrediants (such as certain cold medicines) in the US has made it more difficult to produce meth in the US. Its still possible and still profitable, but less of both than it was before.
Mexico has fewer drug regulations and lower drug prices than the US. So its often cheaper and easier for Mexican drug gangs to produce meth in Mexico and then import it to the US than it is for local gangs to make it here.
Folks are still making it here (I sent away a meth manufacturer who protected his operation with a bomb about two weeks ago. He was making meth until 2005), but not on the scale they were a few years ago.
-David
 
good I'm glad mccain came out and said this, I can not vote for him now for this and his anti-gun stance if he's the candidate in '08.
 
Hillary can't win? Who thought Bush could win? The way Bush is going, taking down the GOP with him, anything will be possible by '08--if there's an Election at all. Hillary represents The Irrational, and America is addicted to the irrational. I wouldn't count her out by any means, although the Dems would probably do better with Oprah heading up the ticket.
 
If it's Hillary against McCain would it really matter who won? I for one will vote the Constitution Party. The common man has long ago lost any say so in what the government does and who runs for office. All the choices are being made by the Elite NWO crowd. Democrat Republican they are both the same
 
What the heck happened to John McCain? :cuss: :fire:
Before the election of 2004, he was still a decent guy. I didn't agree with him on everything, but but at least I could trust him at his word.
Or so I thought.

I guess he learned in 2000 that being a straight talking, REAL, honest conservative doesn't work these days.

I hope that 2008 isn't between him and Hillary, now. I'd probably still vote McCain, because I respected him in the past. I never respected Hillary.
 
So what is new? The left (and yes I think Mr. McCain is a tool of the left) has been pandering to the "illegal" vote for a while now. Remember the ACLU's 2004 attempt to get ex-con's voting rights reinstated, Colorodo Democrats in 2004 complained when a republican Secretary of State pushed to remove 6000 names that were convicted felons, the Democrat Governor of Virginia restored voting rights for hundreds of ex-convicts right before the 2004 election, Maine and Vermont allow fellons to vote EVEN IF STILL IN PRISON, etc.

Resources:
http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2004/jan04/04-01-28.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/07/n...&en=438ad67e2ff69b69&ei=5007&partner=USERLAND
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1340190,00.html
http://talkleft.com/new_archives/008088.html
 
Every time an immigrant crosses the border we* get stronger. :rolleyes:






*we being politicians who increase their voting base and heads of corporations that exploit illegal slave labor. :barf:
 
Sends an attractive message to our line border partol agent who runs thru brush to stop illegal's. Why do it.

Both parties have detached themselves from the American public. Those in power reside in an enclosed wealthy shield thinking they are correct & Joe taxpayer is stupid . I've not voted for a third party however I will consider it this time, please don't tell me I'm throwing my vote away I feel I did that last two times.:banghead:
 
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