Mexico: Walls won't stop migrants

[longeyes]

More likely sporadic skirmishes on both sides of the border that finally awaken both governments that the status quo of "look the other way" isn't going to hold. What all of us will be observing with great interest is what happens when our government, as we can expect, sides with the illegal aliens and against American citizens. That should be an epiphanal moment.

 

[Optical Serenity]

You forgot something. The 20KV generator we should hook up to said fence.... We could probably either make it solar powered or wind fan powered, so there'd be little cost involved....

What, the mexican "government" doesn't like this idea? Since when should we care?

Haha, well, maybe we should start caring about the feelings of the taliban and Osama yo Mama too... Sigh...

 

[Camp David]

More likely sporadic skirmishes on both sides of the border...

The skirmishes might indeed be far from the border... example... in Herndon, VA, supervisors approved a massive facility built to house illegal aliens and process/facilitate their relationships with prospective employers! Like a house of prostitution... What they are doing inside this facility will be illegal but the state of Virginia and town of Herndon/Reston subsidize it on taxpayer's nickel! Such a facility is being paid for with my tax money and is in competition with other faciities designed to process legitimate unemployed and/or out-of-work legal citizens. How do you feel about that? An illegal alien might get a job faster than a legal citizen? That should take the wind out of everyone's sail! Skirmishes along the border? No... the skirmishes will happen in your backyard, and everyone's backyard... this problem began at the border but is no longer there....

 

[belton-deer-hunter]

Originally Posted by Camp David No... the skirmishes will happen in your backyard, and everyone's backyard... this problem began at the border but is no longer there....

now that we know how and where they are going to happen what do we do i am not going to sit by and watcxh them destroy my town. i dont care if it is any one of any race. this war will not be like all the others the army is not going to be able to fight what they cant see i mean look at iraq. we have been there for a while now and we have still not found our target. dont get me wrong if we are not there now we would have been there in a copule of years and suddam would have had weapons of mass desrtion i am saying we need to be prepared. the people fighting will not be useing standard guns of one caliber most will be varied and the price of ammo will rise so buy it now and start stock pileing....... if you werent already

 

[longeyes]

I am for stopping illegal immigration by all means possible.

I just don't see this Administration siding with "vigilantes." It goes without saying that the MSM will be sympathizing with the "insurgents" in San Diego or Herndon, not "militiamen" and "Minutemen." How this plays out is anyone's guess.

 

[ArmedBear]

The Minutemen just want to make a point. They are not, nor would they want to be, the solution to the problem.

A wall might be. It would make the border easier to patrol. The current situation makes little sense. San Diego has few crossers because we have a wall. The eastern desert part of the county has many crossers, because it has a low fence. High wall, low number of crossers. It's worked.

Why not do it?

My only concern is game. Can we make it so that game can easily travel from Mexico to the US?

Also, and this is not something to be taken too lightly: do we want a big wall that can be used to keep us IN?

 

[Biker]

The Minutemen just want to make a point. They are not, nor would they want to be, the solution to the problem.

A wall might be. It would make the border easier to patrol. The current situation makes little sense. San Diego has few crossers because we have a wall. The eastern desert part of the county has many crossers, because it has a low fence. High wall, low number of crossers. It's worked.

Why not do it?

My only concern is game. Can we make it so that game can easily travel from Mexico to the US?

Also, and this is not something to be taken too lightly: do we want a big wall that can be used to keep us IN?

I'm not too worried about being kept in. The people that would want that to happen would be trying to keep millions of POed gun owners in while keeping Mexican immigrants out . Hard to do both.
A fighting hole really only works well in one direction.


Biker

 

[ArmedBear]

I'm not too worried about being kept in. The people that would want that to happen would be trying to keep millions of POed gun owners in while keeping Mexican immigrants out . Hard to do both.
A fighting hole really only works well in one direction.


Biker

Ever seen the wall in San Diego?

It's not just a wall. Where it is complete, it's a wall of concrete pillars, a DMZ with spotlights, then a fence made of tall milsurp steel plates.

It works.

It would work both ways, if anyone wants it to.

 

[Biker]

I've not seen the SD wall, but I'd just as soon take a chance on being walled into my country while I still have one. I can't see myself trying to get out, but I see your point. No easy solutions, eh?
Biker

 

[lostone1413]

I am for stopping illegal immigration by all means possible.

I just don't see this Administration siding with "vigilantes." It goes without saying that the MSM will be sympathizing with the "insurgents" in San Diego or Herndon, not "militiamen" and "Minutemen." How this plays out is anyone's guess.

The trouble is when the shooting starts you will have more then the illegals involved. You will see the Guard and all the LE agencys against you to. Remember New Orleans, Waco, Ruby Ridge, Lodlow massacre, their are many more times then the ones I listed in history to. History has shown that when push comes to shove the guard units and the LE agencys won't be on the side of we the people!

 

[progunner1957]

Snipers: An idea whose time has come

The death of a Mexican man shot by U.S. authorities while trying to sneak into California proves that extending border walls will not curb illegal immigration, President Vicente Fox's office said Monday.

I'll bet sniper towers with overlapping fields of fire would...

 

[cz75bdneos22]

illegals come to the U.S. to work period. When the average wage for an average worker employed in a manufacturing job in Mexico is $30 U.S. dollars a week. It is no surprise then that they are willing to face whatever repercussions may come in the pursuit of the "American" dream..even it that means taking undesireable minimum wage jobs here..by my calculations, that would be $5.15@40 hours/week= $205 dollars..WWYD? Uhmmm!!!