Sons of Guns

[Gromky]

The suppressed AK-47 took the sound from 160 decibels to 126 Decibels. That a big drop but you still need hearing protection or you're going to go deaf. 126 Db is a noise that repeated fire will cause you injury. Most people who would own the deal would take more than 1 round to the range to fire.

Then you shouldn't fire the 160 dB version with hearing protection. Good muffs will get you something like 22-25 dB. So you're saying nobody should shoot that rifle, stock, with earmuffs.

You are right though. 120 dB will cause a tiny bit of hearing damage, every shot. People put on the muffs and tend to ignore it.

 

[SupraBo]

I just watched this show and I really don't know where i stand. i am entertained for sure. ?I am glad they are bringing good press to the gun industry.

Seeing David Sams work, Talking to Les Baer, and being around competitive shooting, there is nothing magical about the "gunsmith" ability here. I feel like there are people on this forum who know far more about guns in general then the "gunsmith"

They dont have a CNC? that is kind of standard nowa days right?

I am sorry but the GIRL IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ANNOYING!!!!!

I think we'll see the suppressed AK guy on the show To catch a predator!

 

[moonman16]

The 160 decibel AK47 suppressed down to 126 Db. WEAR HEARING PROTECTION PLEASE. Good muffs have 20 plus to 30Db reduction, if you place plugs into your ears first you get another 5 Db reduction. This is still a bunch of noise (yours or others) if you were shooting or around shooting range area ALL DAY. The sounds effects are cumulative for time (OSHA uses an 8 hour weighted average for Occupational Noise). Noise also vibrates the the bones of your head and adds to the problem. There's more to the equation than sound waves just entering your ear canal.

Many people think that there hearing is just fine, but if they were to be Professionally evaluated, they might be surprised at their actual hearing loss and AGE adds to it also.

Have a GOOD DAY.

YOU ONLY LOOSE YOUR HEARING ONCE.

 

[smince]

Yawn... more THR users spouting how much better they are than the ones who have figured out how to be successful doing something they love. Getting old.

Yeah. So many of them here have successful gun businesses and tv shows...

 

[Kingofthehill]

Yeah. So many of them here have successful gun businesses and tv shows...

Im not saying im better than them, im just saying that the "Gunsmiths" i know and have had the pleasure owning their works of art are light years beyond these guys.

Just look at the whole 5 "Katanas".... you know how many of us can do that with no problem at all without being a total crybaby about it? Not to mention all this spray painting crap. ***?

This is your typical garage built amateur stuff that a lot of us do and its simply no big deal. their level of craftsmanship is just mediocre at best and in no way would i be bragging about that work or having them do that to my firearms.

hate to be so negative but its a below par shop with awful "acting" and ridiculous prices acting like every project is the be all, end all of their company. Im sorry but if 5 AR's are going to put you "Under" than you really really need to get some help or get out of that industry.

 

[mcdonl]

Yawn... more THR users spouting how much better they are than the ones who have figured out how to be successful doing something they love. Getting old.

 

[CraigC]

I reckon it's a tolerable show. The "gunsmithing" that goes on is very low end. Comparing it to a reputable gunsmith like Jim Stroh's shop is like comparing a tire shop to an operating room. Watching them working on guns is more like watching an amateur build a rat bike. It's entertaining and they do someinteresting t hings, it puts our "world" in a fairly positive light but you really have to suspend your disbelief to watch it, like watching an action flick where stick-armed Angelina Jolie beats up grown men.

I agree that the daughter is irritating and should work hard at keeping her mouth shut. A show about guns should have zero teenage eyerolling.

 

[Acera]

Did anyone else think the Katana is an over priced version of the DPMS sportical?

I understand they used a lot of expensive parts, and a fancy carbon fiber handguard, but looking at their website's description of the rifle it is awful similar.

 

[SupraBo]

YES it is a complete waste of money. Its an AR w/out a forward assist. I wonder why they didn’t use a carbon fiber or a composite lower
I wonder why Wilson and Knighthawk sell so many different verisons of the 870. There must be a market for something like that.
I hate how they keep saying, “this has never been done before” lol

 

[Carl N. Brown]

A silent Saiga may never have been done before, but silent Mossberg pumps are sold for garden pest control in the UK. Their (UK) shotgun laws may be restrictive, but their silencer laws are about right, as are Finland's. (I suspect our import laws would probably keep Red Jacket from buying a silenced (sound suppressed) UK shotgun for study and evaluation.)

 

[crossrhodes]

Yes it has it's faults like anything else but it's the only show I can catch. I seem to miss the show made by THR posters....what channel and time please.
It sure as hell beats Jersey Shore and that angry house wife show.

 

[joeq]

A tactical Tommy gun? I do believe I'll pass on that one. I can't believe the younger guy just started pointing the Tommy all over the place in the shop. His gun safety leaves a whole lot to be desired. You could see the other guy push the muzzle away from him. He pointed it at him again when he pulled it off the work bench at the end of the show. I know these guy's are around guns all day long but you can't get complacent with safety.

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

A tactical Tommy gun? I don't know about that.

Yeah I thought it was ugly. The WWII Tommy gun with the horizontal foreend was beautiful but when they put that railed foreend on it, it was ruined. If I was in the market for something like that (and could actually own it) I'd go with a M16 with a .45 upper or a full auto Kriss super V. Price would probably be less and you'd have a more proven track record than a franken-tommy, which would be very important for me as someone kicking doors.

 

[txhoghunter]

If law enforcement wants a select fire .45 ACP, shouldn't the HK UMP come to mind?

 

[OC_]

I thought that Thompson's was just a stupid idea. I think that police chief must be romanticising that gun a little too much. The thompson is just so long and bulky that it must be hell trying to get that thing through door ways in a tactical situation. I hope there's no hostages when the cops enter with those, it looked pretty hard to control... If they wanted a 45 smg that has a high cycle rate, they should have just gone with an old MAC-10. That would have been much more compact, lighter, cheaper and has so much aftermarket out there to turn it into anything they want.

 

[WALKERs210]

After watching parts of the show tonight I think I am in the wrong business. Didn't see the full part of them building the "Bazooka" but when I heard the price of $1000.00 each and $50.00 for each rocket ! I have been building those for along time and only use cardboard tubes, wore out hot glue gun for the trigger, my rockets can easily go 500' and only cost around $9 - $10. to make.

 

[Zundfolge]

I'm thinking the Sheriff of West Baton Rouge has too much discretionary budget to waste.

Seriously, converting a semi auto Thompson to select fire and than making it "modern" and "tactical" is just asinine ... might as well buy a 65 Plymouth Fury and put all the modern police stuff in it and take it out on patrol.

If he really wants .45acp sub guns for his SWAT team, the HK UMP and KRISS are readily available and probably cheaper (I'm not going to get into the whole militarization of the police issue either).

 

[HOOfan_1]

I'm thinking the Sheriff of West Baton Rouge has too much discretionary budget to waste.

Sounds like he needs to be voted out of office....then again, I have a feeling that entire bit was rigged.

Getting kind of strange that people nit pick over something about the show in this thread, and then it is addressed the next week. (talking about NFA laws, sending an inexperience shooter for training) I am sure all of this stuff was filmed months ago.

Pretty sure any machine shop could whip up their bazooka for a $200 or less. Looked pretty much just like a steel tube with some stuff welded on and a battery, some wires and a switch...

Also the samurai sword that is the length of a machete.....its been around for a few hundred years, it is called a wakizashi...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakizashi

 

[jerkface11]

Now they "invented" the bastard sword lol.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

It was the sheriff's gun and I suspect the sheriff's money even if it were done for the department. I suspect that project is what is meant by a dealer's sample for demonstration purposes.

That said, the most I would want done would probably a SBR with original 10.5 inch barrel to hang it on the den wall. The recent epsiode of Top Shot showed the Asian gal struggling with the Thompson's 16 5/8 inch length of pull (LOP butt to trigger). LOP should be 13 to 14 inches for average people. General issue for a sheriff dept SWAT team? No. Collector's item? Yes.

The episode did illustrate the reason the Type C 100 round drum was not popular (the Type L 50 shot drum and Type XX 20 shot stick were more common): a 1921 or 1928 Thompson with a loaded 100 shot drum was over 20 pounds.

My problem is that hours of milling machine work to convert a semi-auto Thompson to full-auto ended up on the cutting room floor in the video edit room. I expect to hear some anti-gun nut claiming it takes only thirty minutes to convert a semi Thompson to full-auto ("I saw it on TV"). With the equipment Red Jacket had, they probably could have built a receiver and trigger frame for a 1928 parts kit and had two guns (the semi-auto replica and a custom full-auto Frankentommy) for about the same effort.

Anyway, the show does give us something to comment on the next morning, don't it?

 

[feedthehogs]

First and foremost this show is about entertainment, otherwise it would never be on TV.

Guns just happen to be the semi hot topic on cable programming right now.

Second these guys are whatcha call coonasses and you have to know the type to understand the premise of the shows characterization. You also have to understand the good old boy attitude of the area.

Coonasses have long been making things with the bare essentials of tools. A CNC machine to them would have come off a space ship.

Like American Choppers, or the American Hot Rod show, Sons of Guns players don't quite get the producers in their editing of the show use the characters as clown types. Most get that.

Most of the time the shows characters don't have a clue they are being made fun of.

After all a show about building guns on a technical basis without any clown type characters would never make it to the tube.

Watch it or not for the entertainment, not for the show content.

 

[scaatylobo]

I finally got to watch and was appalled at the butchering job they did on the Tommygun.

And btw having fired full auto versions = they are MUCH slower cycling than his was/is.

It was another 'soap opera' called reality t.v. and I for one will not watch anymore.

Tattoo show,shooting shows,motorcycle show,famous people and their family show,all are now "reality T.V." and I am disgusted with the hoopla and pretense.

 

[garyhan]

Sounds like a lot of you guys need to change the channel when this show comes on. Maybe go post about how terrible Rugers, Kimbers, and Marlins are. The rest of us can just enjoy seeing a pro gun show.

gary

 

[jerkface11]

And btw having fired full auto versions = they are MUCH slower cycling than his was/is.

That depends on the model. Sure the USGI WWII version had a fairly low rate of fire. However the ones civies were buying in the 20's could go as high as 1200 rpm.

 

[stonecutter2]

That depends on the model. Sure the USGI WWII version had a fairly low rate of fire. However the ones civies were buying in the 20's could go as high as 1200 rpm.

Thanks, I thought the same thing about the insanely fast cycling - didn't realize WWII models were slower. The WWII Tommy I fired definitely did more "chugging" bullets out then dumping the mag like they did on the show. I said the same to my friend while we were watching it.