AStone
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Excellent news re the bolt, Greyling.
I can't comment on the 30A v 336A equivalence (or not), but do have an opinion about A's and C's. Please take it with a grain of salt; there are stock officiandos amongst us with better knowledge than mine that may tell you differently.
My opinion is that a stock made for a C won't fit one made for an A. Well, wait, back up: the stock may fit, but I don't think the fore end will; not without a fair amount of custom fitting, if at all.
If you check the early pages of this thread (and others linked to it), I spent a LOT of time investigating the differences between A, C and W before buying my 336. My original intention (see below) was to buy a used gun, then put a synthetic stock on it. (I had dreams of a cowboy assault rifle.)
After a lot of research, I realized that the fore end of a 336C is one of the only lever guns that Marlin makes with a fore end like that. Almost all the others - 336, 1894 and 1895 - are like the A fore ends, which are also like W. (I'd still like to hear Marlin's reasoning behind that. I'll bet a 5-spot it's not random.)
I reasoned that, therefore, there must be more rifles with "A-type" fore ends than "C-type" fore ends, and since I wanted a synthetic stock, I'd buy an A (or W). Well, I couldn't find a used one of any flavor (over months of looking, then impatience set in) so I bought a new 336A.
So others may be able to tell you differently, but I don't think furniture made for an A will easily work on a C.
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More broadly, it's about time we talk about stocks in here for a while anyway. We've talked a fair amount about sights, scopes, sighting, actions and action smoothing, and ammo.
But as I recall, we haven't spent much time with stocks.
When I first got my 336, and really even before I got it, I planned to replace the wood furniture with something synthetic. I was especially fond of the stocks designed by an Aussie company, Wild Dog. They also have a US group.
After reading a fair amount about them, both on their site and independent reviews and comments (some on THR), I really came to like their stocks. My sense was, even though Ramlines seem good, these seem better. (More pricey, too, but I'm willing to pay for quality.)
Only one big issue: they don't make one for a 336. There were apparently plans to produce one. (That's based on both direct communication with the company, and assertions in at least one THR thread.) There are even pics of a camo prototype floating about, including in at least one Rifle Country thread. Very cool stock, complete with fold-down ammo storage in the side. Never handled one, but wanted one.
Seems that they never went into production, at least not yet. I visit their site on occasion looking ... haven't seen anything.
I'm betting that, given the sheer number of 336 out there, some of which are getting older <ahem> and may need furniture replacements to keep up with the still fine actions, that a Wild Dog would sell well. I hope they produce one eventually.
But for now, at least, I've fallen in love with wood furniture again. Three years ago, I bought my first long gun in years: a Rem 870P 12 ga with a synthetic stock. (In fact, researching that gun was what brought me to THR in the first place; I joined after reading some threads in Shotguns that were extremely well-written and informative, and seemed a great bunch of folks. So I joined, then months later, bought the shotgun.)
As I've no doubt mentioned earlier in this thread, last winter, after buying my 336 and 39A (in that order) I decided (or admitted again) that I'm a rifle guy more than a shotgun guy, both for hunting and SD (along with revolvers). So, I sold the 870, and have added the 1894C. Still hoping eventually to add a 1895 in some .40-ish cal (leaning towards .45-70, but am also considering the possibility of 1894 in .44 mag (with matching revolver).
But, I digress: the topic is stocks. So, the point of the story is, after buying three Marlins with wood, I've now become fond again of wood. In terms of both looks and feeling, not to mention a bit of extra weight for recoil absorption and handling stability, the wood just strikes me as desirable. May be less durable than synthetic, but birch (on my 336A) and walnut (39 and 1894C) are pretty darned solid. With reasonable care, I'm not concerned about them breaking.
So, I don't think I'll be replacing my wood anytime soon. But it's nice to know that synthetic stocks do exist, and that they're evolving with time, so that someday - should this particular 336 need some new furniture - whether in my hands or the hands of who ever owns it next - there'll be options.
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Wow. That turned out long.
Writing is just too much fun,
especially on a rainy, Sunday afternoon.
It feels like fall got here early this year.
We are several degrees below normal for the last few days, and into next week.
And it's raining earlier than normal. Got me thinking about being in the woods with a .30-30.
Nem
I can't comment on the 30A v 336A equivalence (or not), but do have an opinion about A's and C's. Please take it with a grain of salt; there are stock officiandos amongst us with better knowledge than mine that may tell you differently.
My opinion is that a stock made for a C won't fit one made for an A. Well, wait, back up: the stock may fit, but I don't think the fore end will; not without a fair amount of custom fitting, if at all.
If you check the early pages of this thread (and others linked to it), I spent a LOT of time investigating the differences between A, C and W before buying my 336. My original intention (see below) was to buy a used gun, then put a synthetic stock on it. (I had dreams of a cowboy assault rifle.)
After a lot of research, I realized that the fore end of a 336C is one of the only lever guns that Marlin makes with a fore end like that. Almost all the others - 336, 1894 and 1895 - are like the A fore ends, which are also like W. (I'd still like to hear Marlin's reasoning behind that. I'll bet a 5-spot it's not random.)
I reasoned that, therefore, there must be more rifles with "A-type" fore ends than "C-type" fore ends, and since I wanted a synthetic stock, I'd buy an A (or W). Well, I couldn't find a used one of any flavor (over months of looking, then impatience set in) so I bought a new 336A.
So others may be able to tell you differently, but I don't think furniture made for an A will easily work on a C.
_________________
More broadly, it's about time we talk about stocks in here for a while anyway. We've talked a fair amount about sights, scopes, sighting, actions and action smoothing, and ammo.
But as I recall, we haven't spent much time with stocks.
When I first got my 336, and really even before I got it, I planned to replace the wood furniture with something synthetic. I was especially fond of the stocks designed by an Aussie company, Wild Dog. They also have a US group.
After reading a fair amount about them, both on their site and independent reviews and comments (some on THR), I really came to like their stocks. My sense was, even though Ramlines seem good, these seem better. (More pricey, too, but I'm willing to pay for quality.)
Only one big issue: they don't make one for a 336. There were apparently plans to produce one. (That's based on both direct communication with the company, and assertions in at least one THR thread.) There are even pics of a camo prototype floating about, including in at least one Rifle Country thread. Very cool stock, complete with fold-down ammo storage in the side. Never handled one, but wanted one.
Seems that they never went into production, at least not yet. I visit their site on occasion looking ... haven't seen anything.
I'm betting that, given the sheer number of 336 out there, some of which are getting older <ahem> and may need furniture replacements to keep up with the still fine actions, that a Wild Dog would sell well. I hope they produce one eventually.
But for now, at least, I've fallen in love with wood furniture again. Three years ago, I bought my first long gun in years: a Rem 870P 12 ga with a synthetic stock. (In fact, researching that gun was what brought me to THR in the first place; I joined after reading some threads in Shotguns that were extremely well-written and informative, and seemed a great bunch of folks. So I joined, then months later, bought the shotgun.)
As I've no doubt mentioned earlier in this thread, last winter, after buying my 336 and 39A (in that order) I decided (or admitted again) that I'm a rifle guy more than a shotgun guy, both for hunting and SD (along with revolvers). So, I sold the 870, and have added the 1894C. Still hoping eventually to add a 1895 in some .40-ish cal (leaning towards .45-70, but am also considering the possibility of 1894 in .44 mag (with matching revolver).
But, I digress: the topic is stocks. So, the point of the story is, after buying three Marlins with wood, I've now become fond again of wood. In terms of both looks and feeling, not to mention a bit of extra weight for recoil absorption and handling stability, the wood just strikes me as desirable. May be less durable than synthetic, but birch (on my 336A) and walnut (39 and 1894C) are pretty darned solid. With reasonable care, I'm not concerned about them breaking.
So, I don't think I'll be replacing my wood anytime soon. But it's nice to know that synthetic stocks do exist, and that they're evolving with time, so that someday - should this particular 336 need some new furniture - whether in my hands or the hands of who ever owns it next - there'll be options.
______________
Wow. That turned out long.
Writing is just too much fun,
especially on a rainy, Sunday afternoon.
It feels like fall got here early this year.
We are several degrees below normal for the last few days, and into next week.
And it's raining earlier than normal. Got me thinking about being in the woods with a .30-30.
Nem
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