kiawahman
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The 336 Club
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AStone
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Bumping this one.
Legionnaire
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Well, I'm baaack! Sold my straight stocked 336RC last year, and regretted it ever since. So I just picked up a pristine, pre-crossbolt safety, straight stocked 336 Texan ... happy *sigh.* Pics to follow.
Kentucky-roughrider
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nice piece, I will have to one day buy me one of those straight stocked 336.
My 336
Have a nice collection of handguns but had no rifles. I got my first one yesterday. It belonged to a nice old timer who no longer wanted to keep up with his license. Its a Marlin 336 blued finish in 30-30. I checked the serial number online this morning and its from 1976. Its in really nice shape. Ive wanted a rifle for some time and really craved a nice lever action one. Now if I can only find some ammo to shoot.
Have a nice collection of handguns but had no rifles. I got my first one yesterday. It belonged to a nice old timer who no longer wanted to keep up with his license. Its a Marlin 336 blued finish in 30-30. I checked the serial number online this morning and its from 1976. Its in really nice shape. Ive wanted a rifle for some time and really craved a nice lever action one. Now if I can only find some ammo to shoot.
336
Well it aint in the old west and it sure isn't Texas. Lol. Lets just say its a large city in the north east(very large) and in the city limits you need a rifle/shotgun permit. As far as the rifle I know the year it was manufactured but Im unsure of what type or wood the stocks are. Not sure if they are walnut, birch or something else. How can you tell? The stocks are dark and smooth.
Well it aint in the old west and it sure isn't Texas. Lol. Lets just say its a large city in the north east(very large) and in the city limits you need a rifle/shotgun permit. As far as the rifle I know the year it was manufactured but Im unsure of what type or wood the stocks are. Not sure if they are walnut, birch or something else. How can you tell? The stocks are dark and smooth.
AStone
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Bumpity bump.
JustsayMo
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SDT First Impressions
336SDT impressions and mini range report (Cross post)
I took custody of the SDT and here are my first impressions.
It looks and feels noticeably more compact, it handles nicely and should be ideal where portability is required. Despite its diminutive size it has the fit and feel of a full sized rifle - no sacrifice of proportion or adjustment of cheek weld or forend grip, the ergonomics are the same as my longer 336's. I haven't weighed it but there doesn't appear to be much of a weight difference between it and the more common 20" variations - I suspect the laminated stocks are heavier than the walnut versions.
My preference is for Blued and Walnut but I will admit to liking the looks of this carbine. The other three guys in the shop were also attracted to it. As a practical matter, it is pretty tough to beat stainless - my 1895GS looks great despite having a lot of hunting mileage on it. The laminated stock looks good (better) paired with the stainless too. The Marauder is a prettier, but I can't complain out this one.
I like the recoil pad on my Guide Gun. I'm not sure I like it or even need it on a 30-30. Wearing a sweatshirt I noticed the pad to be quite grippy. It didn't seem to slow handling much but I did notice a few tugs.
Family Portrait of my 336 collection - Top to bottom: 70's vintage Texan, 60's vintage Saddle Ring, Cowboy, SDT
Cycling the action feels very smooth for a new rifle. Actually all of the Marlins I've purchased new have been good. The trigger feels good - just a hint of creep before breaking and very smooth. Safety and hammer both operate crisp and cleanly.
The Hi-Viz sights are easy for 50 year old eyes to pick up. We'll see how they do at the range, the front bead looks pretty thick for real precision but is a lot more visible. I like the adjustability of the rear sights - small screwdriver instead of a punch and hammer. I believe the green dots will make it easier to get a consistent sight picture too. I'm not sure about the "wide-scan" front sight cover. It has a big cut-out in it to gather light and looks like it will protect the front sight well but I suspect I'll like shooting with it off better.
I tested a variety of ammo to see how it cycled through. 150 & 170 grain Jacketed reloads and factory offerings from Remington all cycled through without a hitch. Even "Buckshot" loads (a '0' buckshot over pistol power) fed and ejected easily from the magazine. The first hiccup from this rifle is using the excellent Ranch Dog 30 caliber bullet - closing the lever the last little bit required some force. Upon ejecting the rounds the bullets showed that they were engraving on the rifling. Bummer as this is a very accurate bullet at a multitude of velocities from my other Marlins and at today's ammo prices the bullet I shoot the most.
Rifling engraving on Ranch Dog bullets after being cycled through the SDT
The weather isn't conducive to shooting paper targets today - rain! rain! rain! so I went to a pards place to do a little indoor shooting in his 25' shop range. The upside is at least I get to do a little shooting and it was dry. The downside short range and a bit on the dark side, we did manage to get the chronograph to work using an electric light though.
I figured a gallery load would be just right for this situation so I used a single 0 buckshot over 3.3grains of Red Dot (all disclaimers apply, use at your own risk). Sitting on the ground using the as delivered sight setting I sent a few down range. The point of impact (POI) was about an inch higher than the point of aim (POA) and shot about a quarter sized five shot group. Next I shot three more at the bull above it and then lowered the rear sight and shot three more.
The chronograph showed a WIDE extreme spread for the eleven shots - low=931, high 1106 with an average of 1034 fps for the string. This load leaves the case necks very sooty. We also had one of those cheapo decibel meters (which probably doesn't work for gun shots) and it registered 99.4 db MAX which is about the same as my Single Six 22lr shoots.
Next up I shot a 3 shot string of the Ranch Dog Bullet over 5 grains of Red Dot. Got 903, 895 and 919 fps. Accuracy on par with the buckshot loads which is promising - I'm sure I'll do better shooting in better light not worrying about shooting a chronograph. The decibel meter recorded a 94.7 max.
Feeling more confident I decided to try a moderate Ranch Dog Bullet Load using 20 grains of AA5744. The load spit out at 1786 fps and knocked our 6" x 12" x 12" block target holder off its stand. The muzzle blast kicked up some sawdust that was on the floor. The POI was over and inch lower than the previous loads. db reading of 100.3.
Not wanting to ruin his target stand I ended my experiment and called it a day. I was glad to make some noise with the new SDT but looks like I'll have to wait until later to try some more loads (including the most excellent and famous PapaJohn load) at longer range.
336SDT impressions and mini range report (Cross post)
I took custody of the SDT and here are my first impressions.
It looks and feels noticeably more compact, it handles nicely and should be ideal where portability is required. Despite its diminutive size it has the fit and feel of a full sized rifle - no sacrifice of proportion or adjustment of cheek weld or forend grip, the ergonomics are the same as my longer 336's. I haven't weighed it but there doesn't appear to be much of a weight difference between it and the more common 20" variations - I suspect the laminated stocks are heavier than the walnut versions.
My preference is for Blued and Walnut but I will admit to liking the looks of this carbine. The other three guys in the shop were also attracted to it. As a practical matter, it is pretty tough to beat stainless - my 1895GS looks great despite having a lot of hunting mileage on it. The laminated stock looks good (better) paired with the stainless too. The Marauder is a prettier, but I can't complain out this one.
I like the recoil pad on my Guide Gun. I'm not sure I like it or even need it on a 30-30. Wearing a sweatshirt I noticed the pad to be quite grippy. It didn't seem to slow handling much but I did notice a few tugs.
Family Portrait of my 336 collection - Top to bottom: 70's vintage Texan, 60's vintage Saddle Ring, Cowboy, SDT
Cycling the action feels very smooth for a new rifle. Actually all of the Marlins I've purchased new have been good. The trigger feels good - just a hint of creep before breaking and very smooth. Safety and hammer both operate crisp and cleanly.
The Hi-Viz sights are easy for 50 year old eyes to pick up. We'll see how they do at the range, the front bead looks pretty thick for real precision but is a lot more visible. I like the adjustability of the rear sights - small screwdriver instead of a punch and hammer. I believe the green dots will make it easier to get a consistent sight picture too. I'm not sure about the "wide-scan" front sight cover. It has a big cut-out in it to gather light and looks like it will protect the front sight well but I suspect I'll like shooting with it off better.
I tested a variety of ammo to see how it cycled through. 150 & 170 grain Jacketed reloads and factory offerings from Remington all cycled through without a hitch. Even "Buckshot" loads (a '0' buckshot over pistol power) fed and ejected easily from the magazine. The first hiccup from this rifle is using the excellent Ranch Dog 30 caliber bullet - closing the lever the last little bit required some force. Upon ejecting the rounds the bullets showed that they were engraving on the rifling. Bummer as this is a very accurate bullet at a multitude of velocities from my other Marlins and at today's ammo prices the bullet I shoot the most.
Rifling engraving on Ranch Dog bullets after being cycled through the SDT
The weather isn't conducive to shooting paper targets today - rain! rain! rain! so I went to a pards place to do a little indoor shooting in his 25' shop range. The upside is at least I get to do a little shooting and it was dry. The downside short range and a bit on the dark side, we did manage to get the chronograph to work using an electric light though.
I figured a gallery load would be just right for this situation so I used a single 0 buckshot over 3.3grains of Red Dot (all disclaimers apply, use at your own risk). Sitting on the ground using the as delivered sight setting I sent a few down range. The point of impact (POI) was about an inch higher than the point of aim (POA) and shot about a quarter sized five shot group. Next I shot three more at the bull above it and then lowered the rear sight and shot three more.
The chronograph showed a WIDE extreme spread for the eleven shots - low=931, high 1106 with an average of 1034 fps for the string. This load leaves the case necks very sooty. We also had one of those cheapo decibel meters (which probably doesn't work for gun shots) and it registered 99.4 db MAX which is about the same as my Single Six 22lr shoots.
Next up I shot a 3 shot string of the Ranch Dog Bullet over 5 grains of Red Dot. Got 903, 895 and 919 fps. Accuracy on par with the buckshot loads which is promising - I'm sure I'll do better shooting in better light not worrying about shooting a chronograph. The decibel meter recorded a 94.7 max.
Feeling more confident I decided to try a moderate Ranch Dog Bullet Load using 20 grains of AA5744. The load spit out at 1786 fps and knocked our 6" x 12" x 12" block target holder off its stand. The muzzle blast kicked up some sawdust that was on the floor. The POI was over and inch lower than the previous loads. db reading of 100.3.
Not wanting to ruin his target stand I ended my experiment and called it a day. I was glad to make some noise with the new SDT but looks like I'll have to wait until later to try some more loads (including the most excellent and famous PapaJohn load) at longer range.
JustsayMo
Member
SDT Range Report
SDT Range Report #2
In a rare appearance the sun was recently seen gracing the skies over the PNW - so I took the SDT to the range for some more experimentation, this is what I learned.
Warning: Load data provided but not guaranteed to be safe in YOUR guns. ALWAYS DOUBLE CHECK LOAD DATA with reliable manuals.
The short barrel does challenge my aging eyes. The Hi-vis sights are very bright and easy to pick up but thick so precision is difficult (for me anyway).
Started out at 50 yards, sat my butt down and loaded up some Remington 170 grain factory ammo. Managed a three shot group that was just over an inch, 1-3/16" to be exact. I made some sight adjustments to zero the rifle and then fired a few more groups to confirm.
50 yard 170 grain Remington Factory Ammo Groups (I ended up using the mini paper plates because they were easier to see with the big glowing orb on the front sight)
The Remington 170 grain factory ammo averaged 2120 fps over the chronograph. My 20" 336's shoot this 2140 fps. The 24" 336 Cowboy sends them down range at 2200 fps.
Next I tried the reliable "Papa John Load." It's a 150 grain Remington bullet of IMR 4895. The 50 yard accuracy opened up to 1-1/4 - 1-1/2". This could be due to my less than stellar shooting so I'm not writing it off yet. The Velocity averaged 1937 fps which is almost 100 fps less than the 20" 336's and around 150 fps slower than the Cowboy.
I decided to shoot some cast bullet loads - despite the engraving issue. The best load was the Ranch Dog TLC 311-165 RF, 165 grain cast bullet pushed to 1752 fps by 17.5 grains of 2400 with accuracy on par with the PJ load. The velocity was very consistent with an extreme spread of less than 20 fps. This is first rifle caliber I've had that showed any preference for 2400. May have to experiment with this load some more.
Next I tried the AA 5744, 21 grains under the same bullet. It averaged just a hair higher 1756 and had an even narrower extreme spread. Sadly the accuracy stunk - 4" at 50 yards. Yikes!
I finished up at the 50 yard line with the RD bullet over 5 grains of Red Dot. I've mentioned this load a number of times and use it a lot in my other Marlins. The average velocity was 929 fps and the accuracy showed promise though every group I shot had one ugly flier - most likely my fault. The velocity with this load is on par with the longer barreled 336's
Feeling a little more comfortable with the little SDT I posted some targets out at the 100 yard line. There was a fairly good cross wind going which may have effected the groups but I was able to produce some 3 and 4 inch groups with the 170 grain Remington Core-Lokts. Nothing to write home about for sure. I like these sights even less at longer range, they are too bulky to be precise. The bead, while very bright and easy to see looks like an apple underneath a marble (the bullseye) at 100 yards. Consistent alignment is challenging at best.
The recoil pad works great on this little carbine. 30-30 is a pretty easy shooter anyway but this pad makes it rimfire like.
Overall I am pleased. It is a handy packer and would be stellar where shots are close and need to be delivered quickly.
SDT Range Report #2
In a rare appearance the sun was recently seen gracing the skies over the PNW - so I took the SDT to the range for some more experimentation, this is what I learned.
Warning: Load data provided but not guaranteed to be safe in YOUR guns. ALWAYS DOUBLE CHECK LOAD DATA with reliable manuals.
The short barrel does challenge my aging eyes. The Hi-vis sights are very bright and easy to pick up but thick so precision is difficult (for me anyway).
Started out at 50 yards, sat my butt down and loaded up some Remington 170 grain factory ammo. Managed a three shot group that was just over an inch, 1-3/16" to be exact. I made some sight adjustments to zero the rifle and then fired a few more groups to confirm.
50 yard 170 grain Remington Factory Ammo Groups (I ended up using the mini paper plates because they were easier to see with the big glowing orb on the front sight)
The Remington 170 grain factory ammo averaged 2120 fps over the chronograph. My 20" 336's shoot this 2140 fps. The 24" 336 Cowboy sends them down range at 2200 fps.
Next I tried the reliable "Papa John Load." It's a 150 grain Remington bullet of IMR 4895. The 50 yard accuracy opened up to 1-1/4 - 1-1/2". This could be due to my less than stellar shooting so I'm not writing it off yet. The Velocity averaged 1937 fps which is almost 100 fps less than the 20" 336's and around 150 fps slower than the Cowboy.
I decided to shoot some cast bullet loads - despite the engraving issue. The best load was the Ranch Dog TLC 311-165 RF, 165 grain cast bullet pushed to 1752 fps by 17.5 grains of 2400 with accuracy on par with the PJ load. The velocity was very consistent with an extreme spread of less than 20 fps. This is first rifle caliber I've had that showed any preference for 2400. May have to experiment with this load some more.
Next I tried the AA 5744, 21 grains under the same bullet. It averaged just a hair higher 1756 and had an even narrower extreme spread. Sadly the accuracy stunk - 4" at 50 yards. Yikes!
I finished up at the 50 yard line with the RD bullet over 5 grains of Red Dot. I've mentioned this load a number of times and use it a lot in my other Marlins. The average velocity was 929 fps and the accuracy showed promise though every group I shot had one ugly flier - most likely my fault. The velocity with this load is on par with the longer barreled 336's
Feeling a little more comfortable with the little SDT I posted some targets out at the 100 yard line. There was a fairly good cross wind going which may have effected the groups but I was able to produce some 3 and 4 inch groups with the 170 grain Remington Core-Lokts. Nothing to write home about for sure. I like these sights even less at longer range, they are too bulky to be precise. The bead, while very bright and easy to see looks like an apple underneath a marble (the bullseye) at 100 yards. Consistent alignment is challenging at best.
The recoil pad works great on this little carbine. 30-30 is a pretty easy shooter anyway but this pad makes it rimfire like.
Overall I am pleased. It is a handy packer and would be stellar where shots are close and need to be delivered quickly.
velojym
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I'm gonna do some searching, but I figured I'd drop a question here too. I noticed my new 336 (replaced the ol' trusty rifle I foolishly sold a few years ago) was having trouble feeding when I cycled ammo through.
Inspecting the cases, I found that the chamber lip was catching on the taper. There was also a small buildup of brass shavings at the lip itself. Feeding the ammo fairly vigorously, I don't have any feed failures, but I really don't like what I'm feeling. Will a simple deburr/polish job on the chamber mouth take care of the problem? Or will it possibly cause issues I'm not thinking of just yet?
EDIT: D'oh... found it. Murphy's Law. As soon as I post the question, I'll find the danged answer.
Inspecting the cases, I found that the chamber lip was catching on the taper. There was also a small buildup of brass shavings at the lip itself. Feeding the ammo fairly vigorously, I don't have any feed failures, but I really don't like what I'm feeling. Will a simple deburr/polish job on the chamber mouth take care of the problem? Or will it possibly cause issues I'm not thinking of just yet?
EDIT: D'oh... found it. Murphy's Law. As soon as I post the question, I'll find the danged answer.
P.B.Walsh
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this is one long threadfrenchy1957
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Why Not
Long thread or not, Marlins(wether 336's of "other") are like good friend syou have spoken to in a while. You never get tired of talking with them and they are there when you need them
Long thread or not, Marlins(wether 336's of "other") are like good friend syou have spoken to in a while. You never get tired of talking with them and they are there when you need them
AStone
Member
As OP, I own that I haven't been doing my share to keep the club going.
Work still eats my lunch - no days off in nearly two years.
(Hey, try running an alternative business in a tanked economy, then tell me about it.)
But it's always good to come back here to read about our venerable rifle,
which recently once again moved into the number one place in my kit
(even though it's been a ridiculously long time since I shot it).
Even thinking seriously about selling the 1894C so I can focus on the 336 and 39A
(I want to mod both, and that would help fund those projects, plus feed both).
Work still eats my lunch - no days off in nearly two years.
(Hey, try running an alternative business in a tanked economy, then tell me about it.)
But it's always good to come back here to read about our venerable rifle,
which recently once again moved into the number one place in my kit
(even though it's been a ridiculously long time since I shot it).
Even thinking seriously about selling the 1894C so I can focus on the 336 and 39A
(I want to mod both, and that would help fund those projects, plus feed both).
Ain't that the truth?
Greebe
Member
Well I thought I would add my Marlin 336 Trapper. This was originally in .35 Rem with a 20" tube. I sent it off this last spring to have it rechambered to .356 Win and to have the barrel shortened to 16.25"
It's a nice little package that is quite a stomper in .356 Winchester. It also wears a Lyman 66LA receiver sight. The leather stock piece I made to give me a better sight picture and to protect the stock from bumps while being carried in the field.
Greebe
It's a nice little package that is quite a stomper in .356 Winchester. It also wears a Lyman 66LA receiver sight. The leather stock piece I made to give me a better sight picture and to protect the stock from bumps while being carried in the field.
Greebe
Kentucky-roughrider
Member
I love that trapper.
Is it just me or is there a list as long as my arm of 366's models that we want Marlin to to either start making or bring them back?
Is it just me or is there a list as long as my arm of 366's models that we want Marlin to to either start making or bring them back?
Larry Abrahamson Sr.
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My Henry 22LR showed me how great lever actions can be.MyMarlin,Glenfieild
model 60 LR semi-automatic sold me on Marlin.I was very fortunate to find a nice used Marlin 336SC with scope on sale at a gunshop I check in with periodically and SO HAPPY I BOUGHT IT,I LOVE THIS GUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
model 60 LR semi-automatic sold me on Marlin.I was very fortunate to find a nice used Marlin 336SC with scope on sale at a gunshop I check in with periodically and SO HAPPY I BOUGHT IT,I LOVE THIS GUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
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