Warning: Do not use Tula .308!!! This is why!!!
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Shadow 7D
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WAIT
THERE ARE TIMES THAT LUBED CASES ARE REQUIRED
they are ALL semi auto's OR FULL AUTO, usually blowback or similar design where DUE TO THE SPEED (aka cyclic rate) the case had to be lubed to assist extraction
AND THESE WEAPONS ARE BUILT FOR IT
what we are discussing here is the Lee-Enfeild action, which MUCH like the Krag-Jorganson is strong ENOUGH for the round it was designed for.
If you read the history of the US Krag, after the Spanish war, experiments were conducted chambering Krag rifles in 7mm Mauser OR a UP-loaded .30 army (30-40 krag) The 7mm was never adopted as it was too much for the action, and the uploaded rounds were withdrawn as they were found to be unsafe. These are why the US adopted the 98 Mauser as our standard service rifle after just 7? years of using the Krag.
Yes, I'm referring to the first of two US mausers, the 1903 Springfield.
Now, what does this have to do with lubing ammo
A bolt action will NEVER approach the speed of a maxim or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_42
And the lubing of the Swede AG was due to UNDER gassing of the DI system.
which will happen with certain types of powders in cold climates, as yes, powder IS temperature sensitive.
THERE ARE TIMES THAT LUBED CASES ARE REQUIRED
they are ALL semi auto's OR FULL AUTO, usually blowback or similar design where DUE TO THE SPEED (aka cyclic rate) the case had to be lubed to assist extraction
AND THESE WEAPONS ARE BUILT FOR IT
what we are discussing here is the Lee-Enfeild action, which MUCH like the Krag-Jorganson is strong ENOUGH for the round it was designed for.
If you read the history of the US Krag, after the Spanish war, experiments were conducted chambering Krag rifles in 7mm Mauser OR a UP-loaded .30 army (30-40 krag) The 7mm was never adopted as it was too much for the action, and the uploaded rounds were withdrawn as they were found to be unsafe. These are why the US adopted the 98 Mauser as our standard service rifle after just 7? years of using the Krag.
Yes, I'm referring to the first of two US mausers, the 1903 Springfield.
Now, what does this have to do with lubing ammo
A bolt action will NEVER approach the speed of a maxim or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_42
And the lubing of the Swede AG was due to UNDER gassing of the DI system.
which will happen with certain types of powders in cold climates, as yes, powder IS temperature sensitive.
Shadow 7D
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In otherwords Jerkface
that has nothing to do with this incident
as it adds nothing except confusion to a discussion of the importance of proper maintenance and use of a Lee Enfeild.
that has nothing to do with this incident
as it adds nothing except confusion to a discussion of the importance of proper maintenance and use of a Lee Enfeild.
jerkface11
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He asked for one example of lubed cases being called for and I gave it to him. I didn't ask you to like it.
bigedp51
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I said:
I didn't say show me a military manual for Swedish military rifle that wont function unless you oil the cases. I didn't think any case greasers would be that dumb enough to bring up that poorly designed rifle.
Now lets see does the M1 Garand manual tell you to oil your cartridges.......NO
As a side note I didn't know that SlamFire1 has been taking writing lessons from fguffey,
And SlamFire1 please try and keep your postings to 50,000 words or less.
(your smoke and mirrors ain't working)
And go ahead and keep oiling and greasing your cases and pounding your rifles with excess bolt thrust.
I didn't say show me a military manual for Swedish military rifle that wont function unless you oil the cases. I didn't think any case greasers would be that dumb enough to bring up that poorly designed rifle.
Now lets see does the M1 Garand manual tell you to oil your cartridges.......NO
As a side note I didn't know that SlamFire1 has been taking writing lessons from fguffey,
And SlamFire1 please try and keep your postings to 50,000 words or less.
(your smoke and mirrors ain't working) And go ahead and keep oiling and greasing your cases and pounding your rifles with excess bolt thrust.
As the OP has had his situation made good on all counts by Tula and is happy with the results I am going to put this one to bed.
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