Which semi-auto pistol would you bet your life on out the box?

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SwampWolf said:
Just for the sake of argument, what IF you were being chased by a madman hell-bent on killing you. He is close on your heels, only five minutes and 500 yards separate you from him. As you round the bend, you happen upon a gunshop. You rush into the store but, strangely, no clerk is present. But, on the counter are ten brand new, unfired semi-auto pistols, each one from a different but respected company. The appropriate ammunition is situated nearby. IF YOU HAD TO-which pistol would you select?
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If that were the situation (which the OP did NOT specify) then the answer is simple... the first one I could grab.

... unless it was a Hi-Point, then the *second* one I could grab...

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Just for the sake of argument, what IF you were being chased by a madman hell-bent on killing you. He is close on your heels, only five minutes and 500 yards separate you from him. As you round the bend, you happen upon a gunshop. You rush into the store but, strangely, no clerk is present. But, on the counter are ten brand new, unfired semi-auto pistols, each one from a different but respected company. The appropriate ammunition is situated nearby. IF YOU HAD TO-which pistol would you select?

If that were the situation (which the OP did NOT specify) then the answer is simple... the first one I could grab.
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I tried to concoct an imaginary scenario that reflects what the op had in mind with his poser that some posters didn't seem discern with their repeated admonitions to fire the gun to test for reliability before engaging in a gunfight. Here's what the OP DID specify:

Title of thread: "Which semiauto pistol would you bet your life on out of the box?"
"...If you had to pick up a brand new semiauto HANDGUN and go to a gunfight, which gun would it be?"
"...I know that no one would ever want to pick up a gun that he hasn't run hundreds of rounds through and go to a 'gun fight'..."
"...In case some of you haven't gotten it yet, this was just another way of asking which gun do you believe to be the most reliable straight out of the box?"

If I have been misinterpreting the OP's intent with the gist of his question, I'm sure he'll be along to correct me.
 
SwampWolf said:
I tried to concoct an imaginary scenario that reflects what the op had in mind with his poser that some posters didn't seem discern with their repeated admonitions to fire the gun to test for reliability before engaging in a gunfight.
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... and yours was about the only scenario where it would be advisable behavior. LOL

The admonition to make sure a firearm is proven before trusting your life to it IS a valid one... not so much for us gun enthusiasts (because we should know already) but for those new to firearms that just might be firming up purchase decisions based on all of this chatter. Consider it the "don't try this at home" disclaimer... :)

Anyway, the REAL question here is... why didn't the OP just do a POLL??? :p
 
The admonition to make sure a firearm is proven before trusting your life to it IS a valid one...
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And no one that I know of is disputing that. For the umpteenth time, the OP merely posed the "what if" question in an effort to ascertain which semiauto pistol people trusted the most in terms of "out of the box" reliability. How hard is that to grasp? Everybody agrees that any firearm intended for use in self-defense should be thoroughly tested with live firing a minimum of 200 rounds-and more is better.
 
SwampWolf said:
For the umpteenth time, the OP merely posed the "what if" question in an effort to ascertain which semiauto pistol people trusted the most in terms of "out of the box" reliability. How hard is that to grasp?
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Uh, yeah, I got that... the first time you said it.

I was merely explaining _why_ I felt it important to qualify the discussion in the first place - because not everyone reading this would necessarily frame the responses in that context.

Really, there is no need to get all stirred up over this! The lack of staying on point with a thread topic is a core tenet of web forums after all ;-P
 
I was merely explaining _why_ I felt it important to qualify the discussion in the first place - because not everyone reading this would necessarily frame the responses in that context.
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Then why do you keep repeating the obvious? This is a gun forum after all. Many have reiterated ad nauseum: test your gun before trusting it. We've got it. Move on.
 
SwampWolf said:
Then why do you keep repeating the obvious? This is a gun forum after all. Many have reiterated ad nauseum: test your gun before trusting it. We've got it. Move on.
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Keep repeating?? Aside from explaining my reasoning to you in the last two posts, I only mentioned it twice, once in passing agreement with katokahn99's comment and once detailing what I consider prudent precautions as counterpoint to MICHAEL T's assertion that we *should* be able to trust a gun out of the box...

I really don't understand why you seem to be so bent about others discussing this anyway - it is, after all, related to the OP's question.

Next time it'd be helpful if you'd display your THR Thread Police badge up front to properly identify yourself...
 
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The lack of staying on point with a thread topic is a core tenet of web forums after all ;-P
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I'm trying to stay on topic. There's nothing in the OP's topic that references break-in procedures. Those (your self included) who desperately try to shoehorn in advice and admonitions concerning the adviseability of testing a gun to insure its reliability are the ones deviating from the thread topic by answering a question that was never asked.

I really don't understand why you seem to be so bent about others discussing this anyway
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I guess because I'm attempting to abide by the "core tenet of web forums"- staying on topics. If you are so hell-bent on discussing the merits of insuring the reliability of firearms before depending on one, I suggest you start your own thread-or, better yet, use the search function; the subject has been hashed over ad infinitum.
 
CZ223 said:
If you have to pick up a brand new semi auto "HANDGUN" and go to a gunfight, which gun would it be. For me it would be a Glock, any Glock. If all you other smart guys have got there first and have taken all the Glocks my second choice would be a Sprinfield XD anything. I hate em but I have owned one and they do indeed work everytime (provided you grip the gun the right way). Notice that I said semi auto and not revolver. I love revolvers but I am looking for which semi-auto handgun you guys believe will go bang everytime you pull the trigger. Be honest. By the way, just to show that I am not biased, I am currently carrying a Kimber 1911, BUT I would not choose any 1911 under the parameters given, especially a Kimber.:what: It works now.
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First would be any Glock


Last would be any 1911
 
Which semi-auto pistol would you bet your life on out the box?

Colt 1911

Not because it's really superior to any of the many fine autos already mentioned but because it's what I'm most familiar with.
 
updating the count

Glock 50
Springfield XD 21
HK 15
Sig 8
Browning HP 7
Beretta 5
Mak 4
Any 1911 6

In case you don't see your pick up there go back and read post 121.

I think Swampwolf explained my intent pretty well and 95% of you get it. The other 5% either don't or they just like to argue.;)

I'll say it again just to make it cear. This post is really just about which gun you believe to be most reliable out of the box.

This is supposed to be fun so lets keep it light hearted. :D

If you read my original post you will notice that I picked Glock as my first choice and the XD as my second despite not really liking the XD. Well, this post, and the obvious popularity of the XD, have made me decide to give them another try. Not imediately because I am not made of money, but sometime in the near future.
 
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In case you don't see your pick up there go back and read post 121.
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Some pie (chart) for everyone...
 
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Glock or Sig
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+1 in my opinion. Both very, very popular firearms in law enforcement circles. They wouldnt use them if they didnt function. Questions like this are always subjective though and you will get dozens of different responses, as you already have. I can only speak from my experience.
 
Glock.

But I am not certain I would feel good about picking up any untested gun and going to a gunfight with it.
 
SA light weight 1911 4", SA EMP 9, XD9 XDM40, XD45, Bersa Thunder 380 (backup). Everyone one of these run with any ammo and no problems. I do trust my life with them. I just purchased a S&W M&P 45 4" with night sights, no thumb or mag safety. If it won't run like these I will be getting rid of it. I don't keep firearms that jam... period!
 
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I would trust every major manufacturer right out of the box. Malfunction drills aren't for the "Mall Ninja" coolness factor, and life doesn't imitate fragging runs on Quake. I love the automatic assumption of good ammunition, or should we ask about which ammunition you trust "out of the box?"

Now back to your regularly scheduled thread of Glockeroni & Cheese vs. X brand Kool Aid :p
 
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