Why do people like certain calibers?

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Holgersen

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I was wondering why people have caliber loyalty?

I was wondering why people think that .45 ACP or 9mm is the best thing ever. I have several pistols in several calibers both in 9mm and .45 ACP.

I was just wondering what makes someone a die hard 9mm or .45 ACP fan?

Second question.

Why don't people do this with revolvers? You don't hear many people walking around saying that the .44 magnum is the only round for personal defense and everyone else is just kidding themselves.
 
In my case, I've carried the M1911 for many years, including 22 years military service. The M1911 works, and the .45 ACP has an enviable stopping record.
 
Actually for some calibers, I think it's platform loyalty. I like 1911s and the common caliber is .45 ACP...
 
Why don't people do this with revolvers?

Well, they do a bit, but my hunch is that those who shoot revolvers at the range also carry them, which means balancing stopping power against size of the gun, capacity and controllability (i.e., recoil). The .357/.38 seems to be the most common and acceptable compromise.
 
Crusty old bastard that I am, I say there are only 4 1/2 useful pistol cartridges:

1. .22 LR -- everyone needs a good .22 pistol, for practice, small game hunting and fun.

1 1/2. .38 Special -- A good snubbie in .38 Special is a great drop-it-in-the-pocket gun as you go out the door. You can get lightweight snubbies in .357, but you won't shoot them with full charge loads much.

2. .357 Magnum -- a great do it all cartridge.

3. .45 ACP -- a top notch defensive round if you like automatics, and it goes with the pistol designed for it, the M1911, like eggs go with ham.

4. .45 Colt. With "Ruger only" loads it will shade the .44 Mag, and even with standard SAAMI pressures will do about all you need to do for hunting and general outdoors use.
 
I'm not sure. I have a .380, a .45, and a .22 pistol, and a .22, 7.62x54r, and 12ga (slug or shot barrels) on the rifle side.

They all have their application.

There are some psychology principles that explain the factionalism. Most people want to believe they are slightly above average, therefore their decisions have to be best. They will also tend to view themselves as being closer to center than they really are on an issue.

As a side note; you don't see a 9mm as a useful cartridge Vern? Really? No point in having 17 rounds in a single magazine, eh?

I don't have an immediate need for that kind of capacity, but I don't see why that would make it useless :p
 
I own several 9mm and .45s I guess I am loyal to both since those are the only 2 handgun calibers I own. Guess I don't see the point of anything in between the two. You get penetration with the 9 and stopping power with the 45. Why would you need anything else?
 
I own handguns chambered in .22LR, .22WMR, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, 9mm, .40 S&W, .44 Magnum, and .45 ACP. I like all those calibers for their intended niches, and in fact want more handguns in other calibers as well. I am more loyal to platforms, such as the Beretta 92, S&W J-frames, and Ruger big-bore revolvers. But if I had to choose 1 single caliber for do-it-all use, regardless of the platform, it would probably have to be .357. Not exceptional at anything, but really good at most things.
 
Actually for some calibers, I think it's platform loyalty....
Exactly!

For example:

I like snub-nose revolvers very much, but I don't like .357 magnum rounds from a light-weight snub-nose, so I suppose you could say that I have a "caliber loyalty" toward the .38 Special.
It's just enough bullet to get the job done, but it's not too much bullet so that follow-up shots are fast and accurate.

Another example:
I like the .40S&W because it gives me a bigger and heavier bullet, and good magazine capacity, fired from a smaller handgun.
As much as I like the .45ACP, when you combine that caliber with high-cap magazines you get a really fat handle....too fat for my hands (like the Glock G21).
 
i am 1911 guy. i carry a colt officer's model and love it. now i have only been carrying for about 3 yrs. i would have to say that i prefer the 45acp. i have friends that have 40s&w but i dont like them as much.
 
Like the guy above said, sometimes it's the platform.

I swore I'd never own a .40S&W but when the only example of a pistol I "had to have" was only available in .40 I snagged it. Sure enough, you like the platform enough and you'll get over any prejudice you had against the chambering provided it's adequate.

Doesn't mean I'll jump into threads to defend the .40kurz but I am tempted and may have actually done so a time or two.
 
I'm only loyal to the caliber I'm using at the moment. I'm not a die hard anything when it comes to guns, I like 'em all. Some work better than others for me at times, but I don't shut the door on tryin' anything new........and just cause it ain't my favorite, don't mean I'm gonna trash anyone else for lovin' it. And for those that think there is only one caliber, or one platform, it's their loss, not mine.
 
I have and carry a 9mm also shoot a22Lr, 357,44mag,and a 7-30waters on a contender frame. (Im getting verry interested in long range pistol shooting) Each one of my pea shooters searve a perpose.
 
I think caliber loyalty comes form actual experience. The calibers I like have proven to be accuate and comfortable to shoot.
 
I think caliber loyalty comes form actual experience. The calibers I like have proven to be accuate and comfortable to shoot.

Same here. 38 and 45 work great for me as defensive calibers, as I shoot the platforms relatively well, and 22 is wonderful for cheap practice and an afternoon of fun playing roll the can; if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 
A lot of people here seem open minded about caliber and usage and I understand that totaly, but there are still people that think the .45 ACP is the end all be all pistol caliber.

I personally agree with most if not all of you about your view on different calibers.

I don't believe it has anything to do with personal experience, because if the opinions were based on personal experience than it would be a matter of personal taste and the shooter would presumably understand that.

But despite that fact there are still many people running around that think a 9mm, .38 special or .380 is just going to bounce off someone like a BB.
 
If it fits, points, and shoots accurately and feels good in my hand and all the controls are in the right place, I couldn't give a FRA what caliber it is. This difference in pistol cartridges is minor compared to rifle and shotgun. But one thing a lot of shooters have in common is that what THEY have is the best and everything else is CRAP and they will argue that point until hell freezes over if given the chance. Since I don't care I rarely give them the chance or stick around when it gets to that. (OH MY, look at the time! I didn't know it was getting this late!)
 
As a side note; you don't see a 9mm as a useful cartridge Vern? Really? No point in having 17 rounds in a single magazine, eh?

I don't have an immediate need for that kind of capacity, but I don't see why that would make it useless
If I want higher capacity, I can get a .45 with a 14 round magazine (the Para Ordnance 14 45). At that level, the small difference in capacity is insignificant.
 
The loyalty you see in calibers and guns has to do with a view point. If a person only looked at guns and calibers that were practical for self defense and home defense, then they would pretty much be looking at 357 magnum revolvers only. They have the reliability and dependability over a semi-auto. It also can take care of shooting any level of power and recoil that the shooter wants. From low end 38 specials, to 38 +P, to weak 357, to the most powerful 357 magnum.

There is absolutely no need for a 17 round magazine. For civilian self defense purposes, a 6 shot revolver or 7-8 shoot magazine is more than enough. For the person who practices a lot and a revolver just isn't practical or desired, there are a number of semi-autos available. I have large hands, so carrying a revolver is not very comfortable. I can't really shoot a "J" frame or smaller. The only real comfortable guns are "K" frame and larger. So instead, I go with semi-autos. Obviously not mouse guns. But one of the reasons for the "Caliber Loyalty" is because of Hollywood. But this isn't something new. Growing up as kids, we were impressed with the 45 long colt of the cowboys and indians. Well there's a lot of people who like the Die Hard, lethal weapon, and terminator type movies. They see cops shooting high capacity magazines which usually means the 9mm or 40sw and they think they need them. "If it's good enough for hollywood, it's good enough for us".

Then there's the historical/military crowd that likes a certain caliber because of it's past. That's one reason for getting an M1 Garand, loving 1911A1, Winchester 30-30 lever actions, etc... There's a lot of reasons for caliber loyalty.

I do wish people would learn to pick the right gun for them, and not basing it on the caliber or gun that someone suggested to them. Suggesting a manufacturer is good. You're promoting a company's quality, service, etc... I.e For revolvers, I ALWAYS recommend S&W or Ruger. That's it. They are the best. For semi-autos, I suggest SigSauer,Colt, Springfield, and certain other brands. But I NEVER suggest a caliber. For some people or under certain circumstances, the 25 or 32acp is the RIGHT CALIBER. For some people, it's the 9mm. For some it's the 45acp. And it's NOT BECAUSE of the caliber. It's because of the gun. The gun was the right fit for the person. The caliber doesn't matter at all. If the gun that fits me perfect, feels good shooting it, lets me carry it and feed it comfortably; then it's a good choice for me. It doesn't matter if it's a 32, 9mm, 357 mag, 40, 10mm, 45acp, or 44 mag. And round capacity is definitely NOT a factor. We aren't police, military, swat, etc... We aren't fighting gangs, breaking into drug houses, shooting through walls, doors, and cars.

Anyway, there's a lot of reasons for caliber loyalty. Some are some decent reasons. Some are hollywood.
 
But I NEVER suggest a caliber. For some people or under certain circumstances, the 25 or 32acp is the RIGHT CALIBER. For some people, it's the 9mm. For some it's the 45acp. And it's NOT BECAUSE of the caliber. It's because of the gun. The gun was the right fit for the person. The caliber doesn't matter at all. If the gun that fits me perfect, feels good shooting it, lets me carry it and feed it comfortably; then it's a good choice for me. It doesn't matter if it's a 32, 9mm, 357 mag, 40, 10mm, 45acp, or 44 mag. And round capacity is definitely NOT a factor. We aren't police, military, swat, etc... We aren't fighting gangs, breaking into drug houses, shooting through walls, doors, and cars.
I have to disagree to some extent.
If someone asks me for a self defense gun recommendation, I simply could not recommend a .22 or a .25 in good conscious.
I would feel that I had done them a grave disservice.
Caliber does matter.
Certainly it's not the most important factor, but it cannot be ignored either.

I think that capacity is not as important as caliber, but it also must be factored in to the gun buying decision.
I routinely carry a 5-shot revolver, and I would recommend such to anyone looking for a self defense handgun.
But under no circumstances would I ever recommend a 1-shot handgun, or even a 2-shot derringer type pistol.
 
If a person only looked at guns and calibers that were practical for self defense and home defense, then they would pretty much be looking at 357 magnum revolvers only. They have the reliability and dependability over a semi-auto.
If you browse these boards long enough, you will find plenty of evidence revolvers aren't any more dependable than an automatic. But most stoppages with automatics can be cleared with a tap-rack-bang drill. Revolver stoppages usually take the gun out of action completely and cannot be quickly fixed.
 
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