Nope. Not at all. But you seem to take objection to others managing their own with the name calling.
If the shoe fits wear it.
dogtown tom said:
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You think somehow the dude would have been less shot if this had taken place at the range?
Nope. I never said anything to that effect.
Neither did I, you quoted the wrong person.
And I didn't say you did either.
I actually quoted bdickens......and if you had copied the entire sentence it would read:
When bdickens said: "The location is immaterial. You think somehow the dude would have been less shot if this had taken place at the range?"
It was YOU that said being at the range is different somehow; context, expectations...
No sir....not in regards to any safety rules.
I think you misunderstood this:
dogtown tom said: It's a wonder how many people can't grasp the difference between safe range operation and safe practices in a retail store.
Because you then wrote: "How do the 4 rules of gun safety change by location?"
The four rules don't change, but its understood to be a safe practice to not have loaded guns laying on the counter in the showroom. On the range, it's a given.
Most ranges I know of don't let shooters touch their firearm AT ALL when the range goes cold. Some require chamber flags, bolts open, slides locked back to show clear. Once the range calls HOT! shooters can load and commence fire.
So you want others to answer your questions but won't or can't answer yourself or articulate how context location expectation is relevant to gun safety.
I'm not going to play word games on whether use means use. You're a smart guy, figure it out.
If your position is strictly about liability if/when safety isn't followed then the same holds true whether at the range or at the store.
And I didn't write anything contrary to that. I noted that a plaintiffs attorney (and jury) would see a negligent discharge in the gun store showroom differently because the expectation is firearms in the showroom are not loaded. Disagree? Good luck with that.
In either location, regardless or context or expectation, the business liable to be sued.
Being sued is one thing, being culpable or responsible is something else. A gun store with a strict "keep your gun holstered" policy, signage in the store, on the doors and a staff trained to watch for nitwits likely will fare better than the store that allows customers to draw and clear their loaded gun in the store. It aint a problem until its a problem.
Its just your opinion of how others should manage their liability; of which you've resorted to derogatory name calling.
Good grief
If you think a customer drawing and clearing his loaded firearm inside a gun store is a good, safe practice.........good for you. I don't. I think its unsafe and idiotic. And I'm not alone.