Your Gun Is Trained On An Intruder

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What do you do in this situation?

An intruder is in your house.

By luck you have your gun available.

You see him. His hands are empty.

You aim your gun at his chest. He is 20 feet away.

He sees you and the gun and doesn't move.

What do you now?

(How do you dial 911 and keep an eye on the intruder at the same time?)
 
Say: "Welcome to the Texan Front, comrade." Or, in a better vein: "Keep your hands where I can see them, please."
On cell phones, I believe you can hold down '1' and it'll auto-dial 911. Not sure about that, though.
 
If you cannot get to a phone, tell him to leave or be shot and the cops are on their way. If he comes toward you after giving this warning and giving him the option to leave, you must conclude that he believes that he has the skill to disarm you and use the gun against you.
 
Say: "Welcome to the Texan Front, comrade." Or, in a better vein: "Keep your hands where I can see them, please."
On cell phones, I believe you can hold down '1' and it'll auto-dial 911. Not sure about that, though.
"1" dials my voicemail on my cell.
 
I believe the key in question (on my phone at least) is "9".. and is an option that can be disabled.


C'mon people, it's three freakin' buttons. Quit dry firing and work your cell phone hand for a while :p
 
"Sweetheart, call 911 for me? Mr Dirtbag, face down on the floor, facing away from me. Arms out, palms up, cross your legs, and bend your legs up until your heel hits your butt cheek. Oh, and have a nice day.":)
 
In the pistol class I took, the instructor said it is very unwise to try to hold someone for several reasons.
  1. It can take the police a long time to arrive. Let's say it takes 45 minutes. That is 45 minutes this guy has to watch you and wait for an opportunity to take you.
  2. Most of us do not have handcuffs or restraints, and if we did we are not trained in their use.
  3. You stopped the guy. He hasn't really done anything. Ok maybe breaking and entering.
  4. He will more than likely not even spend one night in jail.
Run him off with the understanding that if there is a next time the outcome will be very different.

If he advances on you, then what tepin said.
 
I have wondered about this many times, for this very reason I keep my cell phone next to my gun
 
Having used my cell phone to call 911

It might not be as simple as dialing 911.
On my cell phone, after dialing 911, a dialog comes up asking if I want to to put the phone in emergency mode, and if so, press this, that, etc.
So dialing and tossing the phone might not connect you to help.
 
The way my house is laid out if I catch the guy at the opposite end of the hallway that my bedroom is on he'll be right inside the front doorway. If he stops and doesn't advance I'll order him face down hands extended straight out to his sides and to cross his ankles. I'll then have my wife call 911 while I keep him covered from that distance. If he decides to run the door is there and he's more than welcome to use it. I'll then just give a description to the police and be done with it. If he advances then it's going to be awfully messy when the police arrive.
 
Living about three miles from the city municipal court, in an apartment complex, shapes my views a bit. The cops would probably show up before I could cook a TV dinner.
 
I can dial my cell phone using voice commands. As for securing this unwanted guest...I would shackle the intruder to the wrought iron gate outside & wait local PD to show up & take custody.
 
A "Make My Day" law does not permit you to shoot an unarmed intruder in your home if they don't represent a physical threat. An empty handed guy 20 feet away doesn't represent a credible physical threat until he moves towards you or produces some weapon. Be careful not to make yourself a criminal by misinterpreting the law. http://www.denverpost.com/harsanyi/ci_4072304

Attempting to shackle/tie up/zip tie/handcuff any criminal is putting yourself much too close to them at a time when they want to get out of there. Getting into a struggle with a deperate criminal is the last thing any of us should invite by getting withing reach.
 
SNARLINGIRON - "Let's say it takes 45 minutes. That is 45 minutes this guy has to watch you and wait for an opportunity to take you."

IF, I say again, IF you are going to prone the dude our, you do NOT allow him to look at you. Tell him to keep his head turned away! And never get close enough to him that you're in his "kill zone!.

Ten Ring, the last thing you want to do is to get close enough to the cretin to "shackle him to your iron gate." You have to get in his "kill zone" to do it... and do you know how to"shackle" a bad guy, while trying to hold a gun on him, and have him comply with you??? :what:

"Shackling" a bad guy is for the police. They know how to do it.

That is a disaster in the making.

FWIW.

L.W.
 
Assuming he is compliant have raise his hands as high as possible and then turn so his back is towards you. Then he can't see if you're still covering him.

If he runs, let him run.

Jeff
 
In Michigan, especially now that we have legislative castle doctrine, one does not have to warn the perp prior to shooting. That the perp is in one's home without permission, especially during sleeping hours, is grounds to fire. There is the face-value assumption in Michigan, that the perp intends to cause great bodily harm or death.

Re: the distance, and extent of threat, according to the instructor of our CCW course (27 years service as the director of Oakland County’s S.W.A.T. Team), 43 feet is a credible threat whether someone has a weapon or not. The weapon in hand simply assures you will, for example, be poked if a perp has a knife. Weapon or not, they will, at 43 feet, be able to reach and attack you before expiring if you do not shoot. Ergo, the point we were taught, if a credible threat is made in public, at 43 feet one has grounds to fire. In one's home, one has grounds to fire at face value, on an intruder, especially at night.

To me, the ethical question is not so much the shoot or do not shoot. The ethical question is does one leave the security of their "safe room" to engage the perp in the first place. In my case, I would have to risk engaging, because I have a 12-year-old daughter, and I would have to assure her safety. I could not simply hunker down and wait.
 
Jeff White, ojibweindian, and others I think have it right. I don't want to arrest the guy, I want to live, and I don't want bloodshed. If he volunteers to wait for the cops, great. If he runs away, that's also great. I like every outcome that involves nobody dying.
 
Do what the police do. Yell to him "get down on the floor" over and over till he either runs, gets down on the floor, or moves towards you and gets shot.

Once he bolts or gets on the floor, move to the phone and call 911.
 
Been there, done that. While in the Navy Reserve we were called out one night to patrol one of the areas of the city under flood conditions. The flood had receded and we were told to protect the homes against looting. No instructions were issued as what to do in case we came across an incident of looting.

We were in groups of four and I was the only one in the group armed. One had a powerful searchlight and he picked up a man trying to remove a screen from the window of a house. He said to me, "cover that guy." I had the sights aligned on him when he started backing away toward the rear of the house. The guy with the light started yelling, "Shoot him, shoot him, pull the trigger!." It was only two or three seconds but all kinds of thoughts went thru my mind and I said "Nope, no way". The man vanished in the darkness. I thank God now that I made that decision.
 
By luck you have your gun available.

No, it's most certainly not luck.

(How do you dial 911 and keep an eye on the intruder at the same time?)

You don't have 911 on a speed dial button?
Every phone in my house can dial 911 with one button push.

It can take the police a long time to arrive. Let's say it takes 45 minutes. That is 45 minutes this guy has to watch you and wait for an opportunity to take you.

If you live somewhere with a 45 minute police response time to a call of B&E with an armed homeowner present you either
A) Live in the a%$ middle of nowhere or
B) Need to move

If A then you should plan better for this type of thing and have some contingencies.

You stopped the guy. He hasn't really done anything. Ok maybe breaking and entering.
He will more than likely not even spend one night in jail.

Maybe B&E? He's INSIDE your house.

Your profile says you live in Ft Worth.
No way it will take 45 minutes, and he's going to jail for certain.

As for Jeff White and others advice to let him run, that's fine and probably best if he decides to run for it.

However:
Be prepared for him to come back. Be prepared to meet his buddy coming around the corner to see what all the noise is.
 
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