What is your preferred first line of home defense?

What is your preferred first line of home defense?

  • Pistol

    Votes: 106 38.7%
  • Revolver

    Votes: 21 7.7%
  • PCC (Pistol Caliber Carbine)

    Votes: 3 1.1%
  • RCC (Rifle Caliber Carbine)

    Votes: 11 4.0%
  • Rifle

    Votes: 4 1.5%
  • Tactical Shotgun

    Votes: 33 12.0%
  • Field Shotgun

    Votes: 7 2.6%
  • Club (Baseball Bat, Frying Pan, etc.)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Edged weapon (Knife, Sword, Machete, etc.)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Big Dog

    Votes: 48 17.5%
  • Tell your spouse there is a prowler in the house AND they left the toilet seat up

    Votes: 6 2.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 35 12.8%

  • Total voters
    274
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Our noisy and nervous inside dog sounds off at coyotes, owls, and sometimes even the wind.

:)

One of ours is just plain odd,,, He loves to watch TV, but he'll bark and then run outside to 'chase' (?) just about any critter he see's on the TV
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A cow, a tiny little duckling,,,, Heck, even Barney the Dinosaur!!!

Even with a 'catch rate' of '0 in 1,000' he's shown absolutely no sign of discouragement and remains constantly vigilant,,,

Obviously we don't let the TV run while we're asleep!!!

But, with all that being said,,,,,, I'd be willing to bet heavily that HE would be the (first) one to come unglued should 'something out of place' occur,,,
 
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For many people I know, not broadcasting their every move on facebook would be a good first step.
Wow! I never thought of that (probably because I don't do facebook) but you're absolutely right. I love my sister very much, but honest to goodness I wonder how she thinks sometimes.
My sister and her husband live on the other side of the state. They are well off, they have a gorgeous house in the country, and it is at the end of about a 100 yard long, tree lined driveway. Furthermore, it's hard to even see the house from the road because it's pretty much surrounded by trees and bushes.
Anyway, back to the point: My sister and her husband spent last week up in Montana, 400 miles from home, visiting and attending their granddaughters wedding. And my lovable sister placed at least a dozen photos of that wedding on facebook - I know because my wife does the facebook thing.
I have no idea how many "friends" my sister has on facebook (probably hundreds) but when you said that, Fine Figure of a Man, it dawned on me just how easy it would have been for one of those "friends" to drive up to my sister's house and clean it out.:eek:
Besides that, I know where the spare key is hidden. And in my estimation, most thieves worth their salt would be able to figure it out.:eek:
 
I live in a fairly crime free area, at least when it comes to violent crime like home break-ins. A couple of years ago, we had a rash of car break-ins by some Bubblegum Gangsters (a term i shamelessly stole from a good friend of mine to describe kids who try to act "hard" when they are in actuality painfully suburban middle class). "Break ins" is giving them too much credit. They were just looting unlocked cars and knocking over trash cans left out on the curb.

To combat this, I put in a top of the line camera system with motion and thermal detectors and began to strategically stash long arms and pistols around the house in case things got out of hand.

...actually, I just bought really bright nicer LED bulbs for my front and side yard outdoor lights. I did get a couple of solar motion lights that would pop on if they got near my car. They are kind of bright and obnoxious, but living on a corner lot, I sort of feel its kind of my duty to set the mood for the street. Maybe if they see a brightly lit house they have to go past to get to darker ones, they'll think twice.

That's the kind of home defense I have to worry about.

Now keeping this gun forum related, I guess my SIG 320 in the safe by my bed would be the first projectile lethal weapon I could go for if I had time. However, I sleep pretty deeply and the closest thing I actually have at hand is a nearly 3lb Himalayan Imports sword that is a representation of a katana as interpreted by a Nepali bladesmith (not a delicate instrument of war. More of a sharp club). I dunno what would scare the intruder more, me posting up at the top of the steps with a 9mm drawn, or my 200lb bulk pinwheeling down the stairs with a 3' piece of steel flashing in front of my screaming war face clad in plaid boxer shorts:neener:

Now that my daughter is older and doesn't touch guns without my permission, I'm thinking about stashing my AR or a short shotgun in the bedroom closet on a magnet above the door for quick access for bump in the night duty. Might be more humane than the rushing sword charge and battle cry for the unfortunate soul who breaks in, especially if I had decided boxers were optional when I went to bed:rofl:
 
I voted "Other." I talk to my neighbors, so generally know if something is going on in the neighborhood. I am on a first name basis with my postal letter carrier. That is an oft-overlooked source of neighborhood news. The cops who are gunnery oriented (so few are these days) know me as that nice old fellow at the range.

The security layer after that is some proximity and motion sensing alarm hardware. Cool stuff!

You would have to try really hard to take me by surprise before I actually need to reach for my headlight-equipped riot gun.
 
You don't have to make your house 100% burglar proof (which is an impossibility anyway). You just have to make yourself less attractive to a burglar than your neighbor(s). A burglar or robber will naturally gravitate to the easiest target. For example, I have dense plantings of prickly Chinese Holly bushes in front of the ground-floor windows. A burglar would rather break into a house where he wouldn't have to go through something like that.

Put yourself into the mind of the burglar. He's undertaking risks breaking into houses. The potential reward, in his mind, has to outweigh the risks. Don't provide hints as to what he might gain by breaking into your house. Don't advertise that you might have anything valuable.

Ironically, my gun collection itself is the most valuable thing I have in the house. (Yes, I know. By saying that I've made myself a target. I think I can deal with it.)
 
That reminds me of some profound advice for traveling to the big city. Always park next to a car more valuable than yours. :evil:
Or one of the many, "what gun for bears" threads on internet gun and shooting forums. "Always hike with someone you can outrun. Or if you can't outrun them, shoot them in the leg.":D
 
The First line of Defense is just like the military. Perimeter Protection. The Goal is for them to not get in your house to begin with and at least have a early warning. There is no such thing as a safe neighborhood. Get a Home Security System.A gun in the house is worthless when you are away and the last thing you want is for your wife or kids come home and a intruder is in the house and now has Your gun. Most break in's happen abound 3PM. Most come in through the Front Door. Have good lighting all around the house, cut the bushes and hedges etc.
 
Wow! I never thought of that (probably because I don't do facebook)
Then you're on the right track in general.

Robberies have happened because folks post that they are on vacation.

If your wife "checks in" somewhere when you're away from home, she is broadcasting your current location. May want to talk it over.
 
First line of defense from what?

I have an interest in amateur astronomy, and years ago I would read the astronomy forums, but after a while, I noticed that most people were more interested in telescopy than astronomy. I mean, they just wanted to discuss and buy more telescopes, eyepieces, and equipment. Guns and gun forums are like that too. Most people are more interested in discussing and buying another gun, but they seem to try to justify their gun lust with a need for personal defense, vehicle defense, home defense, bear defense and anything else they can imagine. I can see some people have put a more rational analysis of home defense into their response than just what gun to acquire next, but if our consideration is really focused on lethal force responses, I think there's been too much assumption about the source of the threat.

We could go around the world with property risk analysis, but if we want to focus on grave threats to our persons, we shouldn't assume these just come from meth addicts that want to grab some of our stuff to sell for drug money or who've graduated to the armed robbery of cash off people. Based on what I read in the paper, you're much more likely to face a lethal threat from your girlfriend's estranged step-son from her last ex-husband's previous marriage. The problem isn't that he needs money, but that he's already got plenty of booze and dope, and doesn't have anywhere else to go. But just supposing that your own family is one of those seemingly unusual ones for whom dysfunction is foreign and domestic violence improbable. You might just as well consider the risk from political terrorists, acts of war, serial killers, acts of revenge and even strange conspiracies as probable as home-invasion burglary. I don't think we have the statistics for us to have any more certainty that burglary or robbery are more likely a motive for violence against us in our homes than those other things.

People shouldn't think they're less vulnerable to violence from a serial killer or someone seeking revenge (for a possibly irrational reason), because they live in the country, have a fence, and a dog. While those layers of security and situational awareness might be meaningful in attenuating some risks, they're irrelevant to others. While they might be a rational answer to a question about a "first line" of defense, we can't forget a volunteer armed force that suppresses foreign threats to our security, and a justice system consisting of law enforcement, courts and corrections that keeps many known threats incarcerated or under the threat of arrest, prosecution and imprisonment. Nevertheless, the poll seems to be more about what to shop for than how to be prepared. Think about this though. The GSK/EAR was supposed to have entered unoccupied homes and unloaded firearms prior to his later home invasions, presumably to reduce his risk of being shot with them. Bear attacks aren't likely either, but it's better to be ready and not need to be than to need to be and not be ready, right?
 
I was in the alarm industry for over 3 decades. I could write a book of the rapes, burglaries and murders that have happened over those years. Been in so many homes, after the fact or crime. Talk to a rape victim just once and your opinions of reality and BS are quickly separated. People always think it cannot happen to them. So many excuses like this is a safe neighborhood, blah blah. BS.
How about this safe neighborhood. Nice part of town, nice home. A Navy Seal left to go on deployment. While he was gone a freak entered the house through a garage door. Bludgeoned to death the three children and the wife. Then he raped the wife with the crowbar.
That particular crime, maybe wonder if she had installed a alarm system if the loud siren would have scared off the freak and the Police notified. Maybe at least given her the chance.
I had one lady call me. Lived in one of the very nicest parts of town. Top Golf course facing the back yard.She gave me a warning before I came out. "You will not be able to walk through the house". I found out why when I got there. Every single item in the house was destroyed. I mean everything. Even the Bible over the living room fireplace. Three other houses were also hit. Cops found the intruders at a local motel. Two men and a women, wanted for murder.
I could write pages of this stuff. Also sold commercial and industrial security. Even that crime will surprise.
 
A firearm should be the last line of defense, not the first.
Wisdom. A surveillence system that is positioned to cover the motion detector burgler alarm system, two dogs, and if needed, a 7.62x39 AK with reflex sight and a 1911. Have a sign that all surveillence data is stored off site. Vigilant neighbors, and a good relationship with the county sherrif.
 
Revolver for me or a subcompact semi A. bedside table is small with a gap under the top with a nice magnet to hold something with a 3 inch barrel or smaller right at hand level with out being seen unless your laying on the floor on your back.
 
In keeping with what the OP was wanting to know, I selected "pistol" because there is usually one on me when I'm up and dressed (if there isn't a "pistol" as intended in the poll, there is a "revolver.")

My bedside gun is also a "pistol", equipped with a light.

There is also a rifle, a Ruger/Tapco 10/22 with BX25 magazine and red-dot sight at the ready, but I doubt it would be the first to come to hand in most scenarios.
 
Preferred?

My 12 bore.

But there's a 9 miker miker close by if I can't get the gauge into action with enough quickation.
 
If I have the time to choose, the (suppressed) Bushmaster Ar15 gets the nod. There are loaded 9mm and 40cal Glocks within arm's reach, in any event.
 
First line of defense is to not be an idiot inviting trouble to their own door step.

Second line of defense is a visually bland but well kept home. Blend in. Don’t be a standout target.

Third line of defense is a dog or two. Preferably a little yippy thing that doesnt shut up if something is wrong which will put the big dog on alert that his assistance may be required.

Fourth line of defense is a thorny bush beside the lower level windows

Fifth line of defense is a locked door

Sixth line of defense is a closed garage door when your not going in or out. Don’t advertise your stuff.

Seventh line of defense is shatter resistant glass

Eighth is a motion sensor light.

Ninth is probably to refer back to #1 and not be an idiot again.

Tenth is an audible alert to open doors, windows etc.

Eleventh is an angry cat that will shred an intruder

And twelfth is an AR pistol. Not that I think I would ever need it, but I figure if I had 11 major security breaches already then they probably are not after my jewelry box and change bucket.
 
I guess it's pretty simple for me...

1. Carry gun is always in pants pocket unless in bed or in shower, then it's nearby.

2. Alarm system is armed at bed time, plus 4-legged friend can roam house.

3. Immediate access safe next to bed has a 4" 629 with a speedloader. Security cabinet in bedroom closet has everything else you could possibly need for any two to four legged threat.
 
Here is my 12 bore and pistol:

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My Remy 870P with goodies and a Berette w/ tac light. The Beretta is first in hand on the nightstand and the shotty is propped next to the bed for use as a barricade gun.
 
Not surprising that most of the bad guys get their firearms from braking into houses. Since most break in's happen around 3pm when most folks are at work etc. the bedside firearms make a great score. Might want to think about it before walking into your own house knowing the bad guy is in the house and now armed with YOUR weapon.
 
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