cassandrasdaddy
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"Some of you are jumping on the cops as if they had started blazing away. I don't understand why you insist on doing so."
eh tu? its always amused me
eh tu? its always amused me
from what we know of each other I am always amused at the fact that we are not the two biggest cop haters hereeh tu? its always amused me
C'mon guys. They were doing what they could with the equipment they had. Effective range, iron sighted, or whatever.. it was prolly all those two had and they took that chance.
That is sort of what I was thinking. There are very few details known about this yet everyone is filling in the missing details on their own and jumping on the cops based on their own "view" of the situation.the other thing that amuses is that being a cop is definitly blue collar work dirty work and the more white collar someones career is the more qualified they feel to supervise/comment outside their area of expertise
I think that may be the one thing we can all agree onThe police officers need better training in cover and concealment
Cops statistically likely to have been militarily trained. Cops statistically likely, given their setting, to have received more training on top of that prior to being issued M4s.
I have enjoyed regular exposure to local, state, and federal officers in multiple states and this is not an accurate reflection of what the "average" patrol car contains.
I shot twice a year, when I could not scam out of itYou attend a training, and over the weekend you likely lost 30% of what you learned if you don't continue to practice it and attend refresher classes on a regular basis.
Again link pleasehave a process where officers can use a POW,
At least now you are admitting that it takes training and qualificationust not be in a higher crime area, patrol carbines are the hottest rage in law enforcement. Many of the agencies in Florida are either issuing them to anyone that wants to take the one week training class,
I shot twice a year, when I could not scam out of it
Always qualified comfortably as expert
Again link please
At least now you are admitting that it takes training and qualification
By the way, the same training that we took in BCT that enabled us to take 500 meter shots
Police officers simply do not keep up with their skills, they don't have the time, between 40-50 hours of patrol, time in court, and other overtime most officers don't have the time to go to the range regularly.
No I would like you to provide a link to the claims you are making, standard forum decorum if you pleaseThere are quite a few departments that allow POW (personally owned weapon) to be used as a patrol carbine, the latest department that I know of would be the Miami Dade Police Department after the incident two months ago with the guy with the AK the left one officer dead, three wounded.
Do you want me to list every single department that allows POW patrol carbines? Heck some departments even their side arm is a POW.
Want to show me where I have veered of my argument or changed my "facts" I can show you where you havewhat does it have to do with the ability of the officers to verify the target at 200 yards? Oh yeah that's right, you just like to argue around in circles.
No I would like you to provide a link to the claims you are making, standard forum decorum if you please
In other words you have absolutely nothing to back your claims upDepartments don't exactly post their policies online,
I'll assume that you are simply remebering incorrectly and not lying about thatAlso if you take a look at my posts before you jumped in with the "I made a 500meter shot in boot camp." was about the ability to identify the target at 200 yards.
And your diversion goes on from thereIt's at least 200 yards distance, you can see over another building when he zooms out.The camera man stated that the officers were "like 100 yards away"
Not that far for a gun deigned to have an effective target range of 550 meters
The 5.56 round at 500 yards is at the extreme end of the it's effective range.
Which would explain why the cops did not fire on the suspect but merely covered him while snipers positioned themselves on the rooftops and SWAT moved into the building, in response to someone popping in and out of the the windows with something in his hand during an active shooting scene where the wounded were still nearby on the ground"It still stands were those officers able to tell if that yahoo was a sniper, or just some idiot with a camera at that range? I highly doubt it, which is why even police snipers very rarely engage targets beyond 100 yards."
That explains so much about your argumentAlso about every couple of months you have an officer pop in asking for suggestions about what rifle to buy for a patrol carbine at ar15.com
In other words you have absolutely nothing to back your claims up
By your own admission you have only speculation and your own imagination to go on
Which would explain why the cops did not fire on the suspect but merely covered him while snipers positioned themselves on the rooftops and SWAT moved into the building, in response to someone popping in and out of the the windows with something in his hand during an active shooting scene where the wounded were still nearby on the ground
That explains so much about your argument
I'll assume that you are simply remebering incorrectly and not lying about that