natedog
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I wouldn't even trust a revolver with my life before thoroughly working it out. You never know what can slip past the QC department.
Do you totally trust new handguns?
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If i were being chased by zombies and ran into a gunshop with time to grab only a SINGLE pistol from the case (this is a BAD gunshop where the display models are loaded 
) it would be a finish-worn old smith or ruger revolver. I have yet to purchase a used revolver that didnt work flawlessly. (not to say that it couldnt happen but im playing the odds here).
) it would be a finish-worn old smith or ruger revolver. I have yet to purchase a used revolver that didnt work flawlessly. (not to say that it couldnt happen but im playing the odds here).
AirForceShooter
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you're kidding right??
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The_Antibubba
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No.
But then, I've never totally trusted a new car, either. Or a new boss, or a new co-worker, or a new girlfriend, for that matter.
Trust is earned, and reputation only goes so far.
I think it was Ronald Reagan who put it best when he said about Soviet disarmament:
Trust, but verify.[/u]
But then, I've never totally trusted a new car, either. Or a new boss, or a new co-worker, or a new girlfriend, for that matter.
Trust is earned, and reputation only goes so far.
I think it was Ronald Reagan who put it best when he said about Soviet disarmament:
Trust, but verify.[/u]
Absolutely........NOT!!
I have owned most major/top end brands of handguns and some not so. I have been lucky with 95% having worked flawlessly out of the box. But there have been a few that did not. They were either fixed by the manufacturer, by a gunsmith or by me to work properly or sold if they could not meet the specs I mandate. Any gun used for carry must meet very stringent testing on my part before it finds a place in my holster.
1500 rounds of my carry ammunition without a failure of any kind.
Shoot consistiently within 2" to point of aim at 25 feet.
Shoot in multiple positions, normal, upside down, left side then right side.
Slide must lock open after last shot. This could constitute a new mag type.
Keep in mind that guns are built by humans and therein lies the problem. Humans are not perfect so the products produced by humans will not be either. There is not enough money in the world to take all human error out of anything.
Most guns I own have met this requirement. I just recently bought a new Wilson CQB. I have wanted one of these for years and I traded some of the guns, that were not consistiently meeting the requirement, for the Wilson.
I have put 200 rounds through it............man I should have bought one of these years ago.
I have owned most major/top end brands of handguns and some not so. I have been lucky with 95% having worked flawlessly out of the box. But there have been a few that did not. They were either fixed by the manufacturer, by a gunsmith or by me to work properly or sold if they could not meet the specs I mandate. Any gun used for carry must meet very stringent testing on my part before it finds a place in my holster.
1500 rounds of my carry ammunition without a failure of any kind.
Shoot consistiently within 2" to point of aim at 25 feet.
Shoot in multiple positions, normal, upside down, left side then right side.
Slide must lock open after last shot. This could constitute a new mag type.
Keep in mind that guns are built by humans and therein lies the problem. Humans are not perfect so the products produced by humans will not be either. There is not enough money in the world to take all human error out of anything.
Most guns I own have met this requirement. I just recently bought a new Wilson CQB. I have wanted one of these for years and I traded some of the guns, that were not consistiently meeting the requirement, for the Wilson.
I have put 200 rounds through it............man I should have bought one of these years ago.
meathammer
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Do I trust new handguns? Nope.
In the scenario mentioned, I'm with c_yeager - grab a used one off of the shelf.
Option 2, if new guns, grab two of the same make/model you are familiar with. If they both fail, well you shouldn't have gotten out of bed that morning.
--meathammer
In the scenario mentioned, I'm with c_yeager - grab a used one off of the shelf.
Option 2, if new guns, grab two of the same make/model you are familiar with. If they both fail, well you shouldn't have gotten out of bed that morning.
--meathammer
CAS700850
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Put myself in a scenario where I need a weapon to depend my life on, I have my pick of any handgun, but I cannot fire it until the moment of truth. I'd take the best quality .38/.357 revolver in the bunch, then dry fire the he&% out of it to verify the action was working. Put Scotch tape over the firing pin hole, and test ifre to make sure the pin is coming through and will hit a primer.
Not an auto, by any means.
Not an auto, by any means.
tlhelmer
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Nope, I have to test them first.
el44vaquero
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I could go with a Ruger.
The arguement about sights being out of adjustment is a good one. That's why I would go with a Ruger Vaquero in .44 Mag. Single Action, Simple, Make a big hole. This is the only one I'd feel halfway safe in doing so.
The arguement about sights being out of adjustment is a good one. That's why I would go with a Ruger Vaquero in .44 Mag. Single Action, Simple, Make a big hole. This is the only one I'd feel halfway safe in doing so.
buddyRoland
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Sig or Glock or HK?
Sig or Glock or HK? I'll take anyone.
Sig or Glock or HK? I'll take anyone.
Red Tornado
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In the spirit of the question, I'd grab a Sig P226. That's what I primarily use, what I'm best with, and mine's never given any inclination to fail.
If that's not available, pick one, and the odds are that it's "probably" going to work. The odds are in your favor. HK, Baretta, Ruger, S&W, Hi-Point, Star, etc.
Would I want to be in that situation, no. Will the gun MOST LIKELY work, yes. Would I trust it compared to "MY" P226 or a revolver, no again.
Like someone mentioned (sorry forgot who after reading this far) if it chambers a round, the odds are very good that it will fire at least once.
RT
If that's not available, pick one, and the odds are that it's "probably" going to work. The odds are in your favor. HK, Baretta, Ruger, S&W, Hi-Point, Star, etc.
Would I want to be in that situation, no. Will the gun MOST LIKELY work, yes. Would I trust it compared to "MY" P226 or a revolver, no again.
Like someone mentioned (sorry forgot who after reading this far) if it chambers a round, the odds are very good that it will fire at least once.
RT
happy old sailor
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in a word - NO. even with a Glock, i need to fire a bunch of rounds before staking my life on it. yes i have 2 Glocks - 26 and 17 and neither has ever considered acting up, but, i still shot a few boxes of ball thru them and some more SD rounds. they have both used up several K rounds by now and still no bobbles, not a one.
i have had a couple guns that were not reliable. even when fixed, i did not trust them, so they reside somewhere else. i do not need that element of doubt if i have reason to draw. so, unfired gets fired, and not just a few.
i have had a couple guns that were not reliable. even when fixed, i did not trust them, so they reside somewhere else. i do not need that element of doubt if i have reason to draw. so, unfired gets fired, and not just a few.
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