Here we go again. Hooters bans CHL .

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Remember Applebees?

Dear Mr. Garner:

I have been forwarded your e-mail of October 16, 2003 for response regarding our sign regarding handguns at the Lewisville Hooters restaurant. While we certainly recognize that for you or any other Texas citizen to acquire a Concealed Handgun Permit, you must pass certain background checks as well as written and physical tests, we nonetheless prefer to take the steps we deem necessary to ensure as much as possible the safety of our guests and employees. Moreover, because each Hooters restaurant serves alcoholic beverages, we believe that the consumption of alcohol and the presence of firearms is not a very good combination. While I am sure that you are responsible in your carrying of firearms, it is a sad fact that many people are not. It is for these as well as other reasons that Texas Wings, Inc. has installed the signs like the one you saw in Lewisville

Please do not hesitate to contact me with any questions regarding our policies.

John B. Gessner, General Counsel
Texas Wings, Inc.

[email protected]

Thank you,

Ace Garner
 
In NM, you are not allowed to carry in any establishment that serves or sells alcohol. 4th degree felony for doing so.

Exception: LEO on official duty and Liquor Lisc owners or leasees for the protection of themselves and or their customers. Been there done that, after getting stabbed.
 
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51% law

Its a law,in an establishment when 51% of it revenues are based on alcohol sales,then its a gonna get a sign in the window everytime.
 
Hooters does not have a 51% sign and in Texas you can carry where alcohol is served.

This guy just thinks CCW'ers are a bunch of irresponsible drunken cowboys and has banned them from his restaurants.
 
So are you telling me that Hooters makes only 49% of its revenue from alcohol?

I mean I believe you but I woulda never thunk it. It really wouldn't matter to me as I am in TN and can't carry in an establishment that sells alcohol and to be quite honest I simply cannot have Hooters wings or other foods unless they are washed down with a frosty pint or two.


Chris
 
Thats the law in Indiana,but I never see the signs either here.A condition for recieving CCW here.
Its just a automatic gimme for me.I cant afford a $4.25 beer here.Much rather save a couple more bucks and go to the range.
 
we nonetheless prefer to take the steps we deem necessary to ensure as much as possible the safety of our guests and employees.
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Ok ... I'm not TX but this is what pi$$es me .. making the statement ''the safety of our guests and employees''.

Come on ........ let's leave out any percentage factor .. 51% or whatever .... does he realize (and we've been over this countless times) ... he MUST then assume FULL responsibility for the safety of his patrons ..... or, have a damn great sign up making a disclaimer .... that'd be good for business!:p

Does he ... and his ilk ....... stop to think what might occur if the wonderfully law-abiding (not) BG should wander in for a wing or three ..... and then decide to raise 7/10 of hell for amusement .... cos he will carry regardless.

Unless they go to lengths of metal detectors, this guy ain't gonna play the game ........ so the safety of all could be compromized.

here we can go into bars etc ... tho it would be unwise to do so of course for any serious drinking of alco ... but for a snack and a soda ... no problem. I almost wish a place or two round here would try this stunt ... oh my - would we give em hell. But then it's unlikely cos they are used to the way things are .... pretty damn safe.!
 
So. He doesn't mind if you drive yourself to hooters, get totally blasted, drunk off your barstool, then drive home. That doesn't endanger his "patrons". But the guy who goes in with buddies to eat dinner and watch the football game (and happens to be a CCW), DOES endanger his patrons. . .

Things that make you go "hmmmm".
 
Yes, I remember Applebees

I'm in Texas too, jsalcado, and will gladly participate in a letter writing campaign similar to the one for Applebees, just for the principle. With Hooters, however, you're going to have a harder time getting the ground swell of support you did with Applebees. No offense intended but many people feel that Hooters is just a white trash establishment that people shouldn't be going to anyway. It is the WWF of restaurant chains.
 
Pesonally, I dont much care what kind of sign folks hang outside their place. I carried for 30 years before there was any CCW, and I will continue to be the one that sets my agenda, and the one that makes the call on what I feel is prudent or not.
 
I sent a respectful email expressing my opposition to the Hooters anti CHL policy. I told them my dollars will be going to their competitors who don't restrict our right to personal protection.

Jim Hall
 
Isn't "Hooters" a strip joint masquerading as a restaurant? Very likely the managment wishes to attract your basic alcoholic street vermin with low inpulse control.

As in all posted businesses, a 30.06 sign is a good indication that real people would be better off staying away.
 
What I wrote:

"In Texas, citizens with concealed carry permits are 14 times less likely to commit a crime. They are also five times less likely to commit a violent crime."
(Texas Department of Public Safety and the U.S. Census Bureau, reported in San Antonio Express-News, September, 2000)

Are these the same people you don't want in your place of business? I will be sure to tell the 500 sailors on my Naval ship that the US Constitution they defend with their lives is in no way respected by your establishment. They will likely show you the same respect. You guys have at least 2 locations here in San Diego I believe. You are going to make a major financial mistake here. At this time many Pro-Second Amendment groups are coordinating to make known the Hooters policy. The NRA alone has over 4 million members. Please reconsider.

Most mass shootings occur in gun-free zones such as your restaurant. Schools, post office's, government buildings, most prohibit carrying a concealed weapon. Where was the last mass shooting you heard about?

Me
 
ahh what the heck i fired one off too:

I have recently been informed that you do not all the carry of concealed handguns by law abiding citizens in your resteraunts. This is kind of scary considering you are just advertising to criminals that you are an easy target for criminal activity. I reside in Ohio which at this point in time does not allow concealed carry, but I will stand firm with my 2nd Amendment Bretherin and not give my business to your establishments. I will also suggest to the car clubs that I am inovlved with not to hold their cruise-ins at Hooters. I have a problem giving my support to an establishment that does not stand for the Constitution of the United States. The very document that can make your establishment possible. By giving you the power to fully and freely run your bussiness.
 
i can count on one hand the number of times i've been to 'hooters' restaurant. and i can guarantee you that i never intend to go there again. if i want to ogle attractive women, i'll go to an appropiate venue, not a 'family restaurant'.
when the 'hooters' up here first opened, they had some commercials aired, that showed a family eating, kids and whatnot, then it cut to a table of men staring at the waitresses chest. exactly what message is being sent? bring your kids and stare at something your wife doesnt have?

thank god for the great alaska bush company!
 
Each Hooters is an independently owned franchise.

In this case it looks like Texas Wings has a franchise on several locations.

So let't not blame the entire chain for the moronic actions of a few.
 
Waitresses

I was just in Hooters here in Salt lake City and the waitress was definitely packing a couple of 38's
 
Snort. Good one.

Hey,everyone, I have just two words for those of you writing letters: SPELL CHECKER!!!

A poorly written letter, or one that makes you appear less educated, may only reinforce the stereotype of the iggerant gun-totin' redneck.
 
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