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5.56/.223 is my personal preference when the correct ammunition is used. Its low recoil, good terminal ballistics, and lower chances of over penetration make it a good choice.
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strangelittleman
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jkingrph, Does the Marlin .410 shoot slugs well? I've always wondered about that..
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Steve H said:
Second that. I have both the Timber Wolf pump-action .357 rifle and the 1894P .44mag Marlin in 16-inch barrel. 1st up though, is 1911 with 10-round McCormack mags.
Also have the Mini-14, but that's for when things really get bad out in the steet. Wouldn't be shooting that around my living room.
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Posts: 290 jkingrph, Does the Marlin .410 shoot slugs well? I've always wondered about that..
Cannot comment as I have not tried them.
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Posts: 290 jkingrph, Does the Marlin .410 shoot slugs well? I've always wondered about that..
Cannot comment as I have not tried them.
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Ignition Override:
Yes, Id say most Kahr/Auto-Ordinance carbines are reliable, but quality of late is shakier. The problem with the USGI carbines is wear varies greatly: the barrels are all over 60 years old, along with most of the other parts. Sure you can replace a barrel but I wouldnt bother. If you just want a shooter/protector, just stick with the AO.
Yes, Id say most Kahr/Auto-Ordinance carbines are reliable, but quality of late is shakier. The problem with the USGI carbines is wear varies greatly: the barrels are all over 60 years old, along with most of the other parts. Sure you can replace a barrel but I wouldnt bother. If you just want a shooter/protector, just stick with the AO.
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If biggest and meanist then why not 700 NITRO?
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Defending oneself from hostile human beings up to 300 yards minimum since I dont live in a city.
Defending oneself from hostile human beings up to 300 yards minimum since I dont live in a city.
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Rifle caliber for self defence would have to be a .30 caliber at least for me.
collateral
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home defense for me means im going for either the 870 with an 18 inch barrel, the Bushmaster 16 inch m4a3 in 223, or my wasr 10. an m44 might not be too bad of a choice but idk how the law would treat bayonet use in home defense
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R127:
Those are interesting observations.
We live about on the edge of a developed area which has limited patches of virgin land, not far from a highway.
Those are interesting observations.
We live about on the edge of a developed area which has limited patches of virgin land, not far from a highway.
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sarduy
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i would go with a 9mm pistol or a AK
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My choice:
If that won't defeat the threat, I never had a chance in the first place.
If that won't defeat the threat, I never had a chance in the first place.
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7.62 NATO, of course. 
My Choice
My first choice for home defence is a pistol loaded with high performance ammo like a BERETTA 92 or 96, WALTHER P-99 or something simililar with night sights.
I do not like any rifle since I want the gun with me, so if I am sitting in the living room watching tv, it is there and if I go to the bathroom and then into the kitchen, it is still there. I doubt most people would walk through their house with a rifle slung.
If the situation developed where I needed a rifle, it would be a AR-15 carbine with extendable stock like the M-4. I would add a TRIJICON ACOG scope and possiblely a light. That would only be for a WAR LIKE situation.
I like the ergonomics and accuracy of this weapon and find the .223 round's low recoil, flat trajectory and good power to fit my needs.
As a room cleaner, I think the AK-47 in 7.62x39 is a terrific weapon, but the gun weight and short range of the round make the .223 a better choice.
When I lived in CANADA, my home gun was a MARLIN 1894C lever action carbine in .357 magnum. I kept it in my bedroom safe.
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My first choice for home defence is a pistol loaded with high performance ammo like a BERETTA 92 or 96, WALTHER P-99 or something simililar with night sights.
I do not like any rifle since I want the gun with me, so if I am sitting in the living room watching tv, it is there and if I go to the bathroom and then into the kitchen, it is still there. I doubt most people would walk through their house with a rifle slung.
If the situation developed where I needed a rifle, it would be a AR-15 carbine with extendable stock like the M-4. I would add a TRIJICON ACOG scope and possiblely a light. That would only be for a WAR LIKE situation.
I like the ergonomics and accuracy of this weapon and find the .223 round's low recoil, flat trajectory and good power to fit my needs.
As a room cleaner, I think the AK-47 in 7.62x39 is a terrific weapon, but the gun weight and short range of the round make the .223 a better choice.
When I lived in CANADA, my home gun was a MARLIN 1894C lever action carbine in .357 magnum. I kept it in my bedroom safe.
Jim
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Just me I guess, but I really can't see using a rifle for home defence (if in an urban or suburban location) unless it is either A) designed to shoot pistol rounds, or, (if a rifle round) B) loaded with a varmint bullet. Again, just my opinion.
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I'll go along w/the pistol-caliber carbine round and matching pistol. semi-auto w/hi-cap mag for in and around the home (urban combat) is good idea. next would be 7.62X39mm rifle.
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It depends on your definition of 'defense', are we talking about inside a home, around your town after a disaster like katrina, out in Iraq doing routine intel work, or on battlefield where total war is being waged?
I keep a shotgun and an M-1 carbine in my house. I will probably use an SKS to fight my way out of whatever disaster happens that makes me need to get out of town. I'll use an M-4 for most of the jobs I will ever need to do in the army. If I get into jobs that require an M-14 or AR-10 that an M-4 couldn't do, they probably aren't defensive in nature.
I keep a shotgun and an M-1 carbine in my house. I will probably use an SKS to fight my way out of whatever disaster happens that makes me need to get out of town. I'll use an M-4 for most of the jobs I will ever need to do in the army. If I get into jobs that require an M-14 or AR-10 that an M-4 couldn't do, they probably aren't defensive in nature.
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As much I appreciate pistol and shotgun choices and pictures, they wont do any good at 300 yards level.
H2OMAN: I I agree with your M4 choice, but my concern is thier jamming issue in a rough place, otherwise they are smooth shot. However, in terms of 7.62x39 I know it will hit at three hundred but how well in terms of target.
What do you think about 7.62NATO? I own a G3 and HK91, but then my concern is that they are heavy rifles.
H2OMAN: I I agree with your M4 choice, but my concern is thier jamming issue in a rough place, otherwise they are smooth shot. However, in terms of 7.62x39 I know it will hit at three hundred but how well in terms of target.
What do you think about 7.62NATO? I own a G3 and HK91, but then my concern is that they are heavy rifles.
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1) For short-range plinking and self-defense, how about the reliability of either the Ruger Mini-14 or 30 (large magazines for the 30 either unreliable and/or expensive?)? What if you buy it used after first shooting it at a gunstore range (they have a -14)?
I'm seriously considering either one, but prefer the wooden stock 'look' on the Mini14.
The only question for me is reliability, with the gun and the larger magazines.
2) For long-range target practice/possible post-disaster 'needs', a Mosin Nagant 44, depending upon ammo prices (7.62 x 54R: in bulk). The M-N thread on THR makes the gun appear very promising. Reliability with no real repair skills normally needed? A store has one or two which we can tryout.
For you experienced riflemen/ladies, are either one of these options (for either short or long-range) not a good idea?
I'm seriously considering either one, but prefer the wooden stock 'look' on the Mini14.
The only question for me is reliability, with the gun and the larger magazines.
2) For long-range target practice/possible post-disaster 'needs', a Mosin Nagant 44, depending upon ammo prices (7.62 x 54R: in bulk). The M-N thread on THR makes the gun appear very promising. Reliability with no real repair skills normally needed? A store has one or two which we can tryout.
For you experienced riflemen/ladies, are either one of these options (for either short or long-range) not a good idea?
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