The 336 Club
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Outfitted with peep sights and an extended skinner front sight..
BBL and mag cut down to 16 inches and threaded for a .30 cal can.. I am not done tinkering with it yet.. but it is a start.
Outfitted with peep sights and an extended skinner front sight..
BBL and mag cut down to 16 inches and threaded for a .30 cal can.. I am not done tinkering with it yet.. but it is a start.
JustsayMo
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LONG range 336 Shooting
Took the 336 Cowboy out for some Long Range shooting at a friends ranch.
I did a range report in another thread that includes a link to the video.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=540663
Took the 336 Cowboy out for some Long Range shooting at a friends ranch.
I did a range report in another thread that includes a link to the video.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=540663
Just got back from testing some .30-30 handloads at the range and all I can say is WOW I had previously tried 30gr of H322 under a 150gr Sierra FP bullet and sparked with a Win LRP. Those loads shot ok but I noticed that as the powder charge increased from 30gr to 31gr during that session the groups opened up. After that range session I brought out the rifle reloading Bible(Sierra Manual) and noticed that they list 29.7gr of H322 with their 150gr FP as the accuracy load. The rifle Sierra used is none other but a Marlin 336. According to the data 29.7gr of H322 was getting the 150gr bullet out the barrel at 2200fps.
So I loaded up 12 rounds with that powder charge for accuracy testing. But before I get into the details I'll tell you that during the loading of these cartridges I got a little to generous with the case lube I didn't get unserviceable rounds but 3 of the cases had a slight dimple on the shoulder. I didn't think at the time that this would be to detrimental to accuracy as the case dents really weren't that bad. It has been about 2 weeks since I built these rounds and kind of forgot about the problem. But on the first group 2 shots I got two bullets right next to one another then the third went high and right, I sat there thinking what the heck is going on here. So I grabbed another round and sent her down to the 100yd target and it nestled right in there with the first two making a nice .850" group centered on the target.
I let the barrel cool for about 5 min then sent 3 more rounds down range. This time 1 round landed above the bulls eye and the other 2 went wide right This is when it dawned on me about the case dents on the shoulder of a couple rounds I looked through the remaining rounds I that had and sure nuff' all of the defective cartridges were gone, now I"m down to 5 cartridges Anyway the next 3 rounds made a nice 1.20" group and were 1" right of center. I let the barrel cool again and fired the last remaining 2 cartridges and they were again 1" right but only 1.2" apart.
I've got more cases waiting to be primed and charged and definetly know without a doubt what they will be getting If y'all got any H322 laying around the loading bench you might want to give it a try in your .30-30 you just might like it.
So I loaded up 12 rounds with that powder charge for accuracy testing. But before I get into the details I'll tell you that during the loading of these cartridges I got a little to generous with the case lube I didn't get unserviceable rounds but 3 of the cases had a slight dimple on the shoulder. I didn't think at the time that this would be to detrimental to accuracy as the case dents really weren't that bad. It has been about 2 weeks since I built these rounds and kind of forgot about the problem. But on the first group 2 shots I got two bullets right next to one another then the third went high and right, I sat there thinking what the heck is going on here. So I grabbed another round and sent her down to the 100yd target and it nestled right in there with the first two making a nice .850" group centered on the target.
I let the barrel cool for about 5 min then sent 3 more rounds down range. This time 1 round landed above the bulls eye and the other 2 went wide right This is when it dawned on me about the case dents on the shoulder of a couple rounds I looked through the remaining rounds I that had and sure nuff' all of the defective cartridges were gone, now I"m down to 5 cartridges Anyway the next 3 rounds made a nice 1.20" group and were 1" right of center. I let the barrel cool again and fired the last remaining 2 cartridges and they were again 1" right but only 1.2" apart.
I've got more cases waiting to be primed and charged and definetly know without a doubt what they will be getting If y'all got any H322 laying around the loading bench you might want to give it a try in your .30-30 you just might like it.
Badlander
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Changed my mind and cut down the 336 SC. It is A work in progress.
Need to do something with the forearm. Will be adding Williams sights.
Need to do something with the forearm. Will be adding Williams sights.
AStone
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Man, I just like the look of a 336 with a short barrel.
Can't explain why, 'xactly. But I do.
Can't explain why, 'xactly. But I do.
Abel
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Put the rear sight back on and a little 20mm scope. And a sling.
Badlander
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No scope on this one. At least for now. Going to try A Williams peep. If these old eyes cant shoot with it, it will get A compact scope.
The last 336 CB conversion from North Haven.
Here is my new baby. It started life as a Kmart contract gun. The Marlin 30TK with birch wood, 18.5 inch barrel and 2/3 mag tube. I bought it new in 1989 and have used it hard ever since. In the wake of the Marlin plant in North Haven being closed down by Remington I just happened to email a feller in the repair shop at NH and asked if there might be a 30-30 Cowboy barrel hid out somewhere. He replied and said he did have one left and for me to send him a donor rifle before Sept. I sent the 30TK in about 2 weeks ago and got it back within the week. It now wears all new wood, a 24 inch octagon CB barrel and new sight. It is the last conversion of any kind to ever be done at the old Marlin shop and I am very honored to have it.
Although my old receiver could have used a rebluing Rem had already moved the bluing equipment to NY. In spite of my old cold blued receiver the gun turned out beutifully and I thought I add it to the 336 Club.
I would like to express my deep gratitude to Marlin and all the fine folks that worked there as they turned out many fine rilfes over the last 140 years.
Special thanks to Bob.
Here she is.
Here is my new baby. It started life as a Kmart contract gun. The Marlin 30TK with birch wood, 18.5 inch barrel and 2/3 mag tube. I bought it new in 1989 and have used it hard ever since. In the wake of the Marlin plant in North Haven being closed down by Remington I just happened to email a feller in the repair shop at NH and asked if there might be a 30-30 Cowboy barrel hid out somewhere. He replied and said he did have one left and for me to send him a donor rifle before Sept. I sent the 30TK in about 2 weeks ago and got it back within the week. It now wears all new wood, a 24 inch octagon CB barrel and new sight. It is the last conversion of any kind to ever be done at the old Marlin shop and I am very honored to have it.
Although my old receiver could have used a rebluing Rem had already moved the bluing equipment to NY. In spite of my old cold blued receiver the gun turned out beutifully and I thought I add it to the 336 Club.
I would like to express my deep gratitude to Marlin and all the fine folks that worked there as they turned out many fine rilfes over the last 140 years.
Special thanks to Bob.
Here she is.
vaupet
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@georgeky:
that is one georgeous
rifle.
perfect wood, the slightly worn bluing ads to the charisma of your rifle.
questions:
Is the saddlering original or is it something one can ad?
is there stilll a 30/30 model with straight stock, no checkering and no the barrel band?
IMHO ad a peep sight and look for a big loop lever and it is as perfect as they come
that is one georgeous
rifle.perfect wood, the slightly worn bluing ads to the charisma of your rifle.
questions:
Is the saddlering original or is it something one can ad?
is there stilll a 30/30 model with straight stock, no checkering and no the barrel band?
IMHO ad a peep sight and look for a big loop lever and it is as perfect as they come
Badlander
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George
This is multi site braggin! Don't blame you A bit that is A gun to be proud of.
I know. I'm guilty too.
This is multi site braggin! Don't blame you A bit that is A gun to be proud of.
I know. I'm guilty too.
vaupit,
Thanks! I thought it turned our very well too. Like you say, even the old cold blued, faded, and abused receiver looks fine.
The saddle ring is mounted on a safety replacement pin. Just take the factory cross bolt safety out and put this in its place.
No new straght grip 30-30 as of right now. Lots of good used 336 Texans out there but they have two barrel bands. A feller on Marlin Owners has a 336 Octagon for sale. Straight grip, 22 inch octagon barrel and no bands.
I will leave this one just as it is. I have never had any trouble using the factory irons and not a big fan of big loop levers.
Badlander,
I just can't help myself. The 336 Cowboy had been on my wish list for several years and Marlin made it happen for me.
Thanks! I thought it turned our very well too. Like you say, even the old cold blued, faded, and abused receiver looks fine.
The saddle ring is mounted on a safety replacement pin. Just take the factory cross bolt safety out and put this in its place.
No new straght grip 30-30 as of right now. Lots of good used 336 Texans out there but they have two barrel bands. A feller on Marlin Owners has a 336 Octagon for sale. Straight grip, 22 inch octagon barrel and no bands.
I will leave this one just as it is. I have never had any trouble using the factory irons and not a big fan of big loop levers.
Badlander,
I just can't help myself. The 336 Cowboy had been on my wish list for several years and Marlin made it happen for me.
janobles14
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sign me up. broke out the old marlin and am back in love with both gun and caliber!
AStone
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Badlander
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The shorty is comming along. Thinned the forearm. put this scope back on temporarily. looking for the right scope and A forearm cap with sling stud. and A couple filler screws. Then I will call her done.
AStone
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That's one fine looking rifle, Badlander.
I want my 336A to look like that, except for ....
It's about up close and personal, short range, fast acquisition of target.
If one must have glass, I'd recommend a scout scope.
I want my 336A to look like that, except for ....
May I suggest, for a short rifle, the right scope is a set of ghost rings.
It's about up close and personal, short range, fast acquisition of target.
If one must have glass, I'd recommend a scout scope.
I just got my rifle zeroed last week in preperation to make some meat this upcoming season. The rifle is of course a 336A shoting 150gr Federal Fusion ammo at 100yd. I shot from a bench with both front and rear bags and the Bushnell Elite 3200 2-7x32 scope was set on 7x. I did have a scare though, one of the fired cases split just above the shoulder and went up the neck From eyeing it I'd say that it was about 1/16th to 1/8th of an inch long. That is the first time I've ever seen that since purchasing this rifle new back in 2002.
First group to confirm zero.
Adjusted a might to far to the left ooopppss
Final group and zeroed look out deer.
From eyeing it I'd say that it was about 1/16th to 1/8th of an inch long. That is the first time I've ever seen that since purchasing this rifle new back in 2002.First group to confirm zero.
Adjusted a might to far to the left ooopppss
Final group and zeroed look out deer.
AStone
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Whoa. Did you contact Marlin or, more likely, Federal about that?
Factory, not reload, right?
Hi Nem, it was a factory fusion round, I didn't bother contacting anyone. My reasons for this is I've shot a lot of ammo of different brands and this is the only time that this ever occured. Also I cought wind of other folks having this issue with some Federal cartridges. This is usually a sign of the brass being weak, brittle or this one piece of brass may not have been annealed properly. I do know however it is no fault of the rifle.
AStone
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336A, I'd still let Federal know. They should send you a new box.
Extra data could force production changes that could save a life.
I'm just sayin' ...
Extra data could force production changes that could save a life.
I'm just sayin' ...
I understand what your saying but here is why I didn't do so. That particular box of ammo was at least 2yr old. I threw the box away when I bought it and put my remaining rounds after zeroing in my butt cuff and ammo wallet. I'm sure that if I did contact Federal they would want the box to verify the lot#, the defective case which I deep sixed at the range.
Rest asured though if it does happen again I'll be contacting them right away.
Rest asured though if it does happen again I'll be contacting them right away.
AStone
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Ah, yes. Got it. That makes sense. Thanks for clarifying.
ken B
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I needed to join this...up to four, but two are twins ) so I need to sell one of them and get something different...sure like those long barrel'd Cowboys...
) so I need to sell one of them and get something different...sure like those long barrel'd Cowboys...I got it!!
Here's a picture of my new (to me) 336 CS, which I traded THR member TheMachine (a gentleman and a scholar), a few hours ago.
This is how it looks now; soon to wear a set of Skinner sights (front & rear) and a limbsaver pad.
I had already decided that I needed a good GP utility rifle, and got tired of trying to re-invent the wheel.
My research into the 336 led me to this thread. The tales from the club members convinced me I had made the right choice. Working the action of my new rifle for the first time brought forth the sort of evil mad scientist laugh that used to make my kids giggle & my wife just shake her head.
This little carbine is unbelievable, and I haven't even shot it yet (that should be rectified within the next few days).
Nem,
it might interest you to know that the Model 39 Club thread is what originally got me to join THR, after I inherited a 1950's era 39a from my FIL, and was trying to research it. I'll save that story for the other clubhouse.
Here's a picture of my new (to me) 336 CS, which I traded THR member TheMachine (a gentleman and a scholar), a few hours ago.
This is how it looks now; soon to wear a set of Skinner sights (front & rear) and a limbsaver pad.
I had already decided that I needed a good GP utility rifle, and got tired of trying to re-invent the wheel.
My research into the 336 led me to this thread. The tales from the club members convinced me I had made the right choice. Working the action of my new rifle for the first time brought forth the sort of evil mad scientist laugh that used to make my kids giggle & my wife just shake her head.
This little carbine is unbelievable, and I haven't even shot it yet (that should be rectified within the next few days
).Nem,
it might interest you to know that the Model 39 Club thread is what originally got me to join THR, after I inherited a 1950's era 39a from my FIL, and was trying to research it. I'll save that story for the other clubhouse.
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