Using Your Collection to Intimidate Daughter's Boyfriends

[xds&gsps]

My favorite is take a knife or whatever you've got handy that is hard & sharp scratch the young mans name in the bullet of your prefered caliber (be it handgun or rifle this won't really work with a shotgun shell though) Tell the young man that that is his bullet & he can have it back if your daughter is home after her curfew.

On a serious note though. I am a young father with a 5 year old daughter. I am terrified about her dating. There are so many scum bag punk kids out there. I try to stay away from shopping malls as much as possible, but when I do have to go in one I am appalled at the dress of not only the young men "hanging out" (in more ways than one), but also the young womens dress. THis is a soapbox topic I know, but I see these kids & I think "who let you leave the house dressed like that?" :banghead: I may lock my daughter up at the age of 12 & home school her until she is 18. I do have a sweet old side by side 12 guage that I might hang on the wall in a case with a nice sign that says "Curfew Keeper" or something like that.

 

[dracphelan]

I personally have no children (nor will there be any). However, in my extended family there are several nieces. We have enough trust in their judgement that they would not knowingly get involved with teenage boys of poor character. However, they also know that if any boy was to even attempt harm them, the perpetrator would be hunted down by an assortment of parents, uncles and aunts (including one retired Marine Recon Scout Sniper). Any boys who become associated with our group, quickly learn this.
However, we don't think there will be much of a problem with this. All of the girls are taking Krav Maga(sp?) and already know how to shoot.

 

[browningguy]

I never did this to my two daughters when they were dating. I did occasionally just happen to be cleaning pistols when dates came over, completely coincidental though.

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The actual use of firearms for this purpose is grossly in defiance of anything remotely resembling THR.

Agreed. If one can't make ones point without intimidation through the inferred use of deadly force, one should rethink ones reason for having access to it...

Load of crock to me, I certainly don't need anyone else telling me what is morally or ethically right.

 

[Thefabulousfink]

What about having your daughter strip and re-assemble an AR? In my mind that would be more intimidating to any prospective pimps and playa's. You mistreat the girl and the dad might come after you, but the girl definitely will

 

[torpid]

How to keep your daughter's date a gentleman:

Just take the young man aside while you're waiting for her to get ready, put your arm around his shoulders, and say... "Just so you know, whatever you do to her tonight, I'm going to do to you when you get back."




(Warning- may backfire on you in these diverse days of alternative lovin'!)

Also, these days being how they are... what if your daughter brings home a girlfriend? (Er, do NOT use the above tactic!)

 

[B.D. Turner]

Daughter starts dating: If you havn't been there keep your mouth shut.

 

[Fosbery]

I ask them to 'hold this target while I zero the sights'

Not exactly Highroad using guns to intimidate IMO. Can only cause trouble and not exactly gentlemanly.

 

[AirForceShooter]

Every Dad of Every Teen daughter has thought of this and most of us have never done it. Why? Our daughters forbade us to even try.
And as us fathers of teen girls know when they put those sweet open eyes on us and just say DDDADDYYYY, we're toast.
Let mom handle it.

AFS

 

[Strings]

I had a date's father try the "cleaning a shotgun" trick on me. It backfired: he had trouble getting it back together before we left, and I helped him correct the problem...

 

[SpiderJohn]

I posted this the last time this topic came up.
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I feel very strongly about this particular topic, so I am going to post it again.

I had a few fathers try this "scare the lust clean out of ya" tactic, and for the most part it worked. The problem is that their daughters resented them for it, and worked hard to punish everyone in the situation by making bad decisions. I remember rather vividly walking out of a house with a young lady after one of these displays of "property rights" ("she is "MINE" not "yours", get that mixed up and you will die" speech). The young lady asked if I had received "THE SPEECH". I told her I had. She told me to ignore it. I did not.

My then future father in law treated me with respect from day one, and although I can't say for sure, I think it had an effect. The respect he showed me, earned my respect for him. I did my best to treat his daughter with respect then, and I still do (I have to, she is a better shot than I am). I had a lot of growing up to do when we first met, but he never reminded me of it. His daughter, my wife, displayed a great ability to take care of herself from the time we first met. It was one of many things I found, and still find attractive about her. He did his job well, and although he has long since passed away, I still respect him for raising a daughter that can think for herself.

We have only a short time to teach our daughters what it takes to survive and excel in this world. I hope the right answer is to constantly strengthen her ability to make decisions for herself. Give her the best education you can, lead by example the morality you hope her to have, and never forget, they will learn from your behavior long before they ever hear the words.

Concentrate on the skillset, so that they are able to accurately assess any situation they find themselves in, and can react accordingly. Teach her basic self defense skills, basic weapons skills, and do your best to tolerate her decisions.

My daughter is 10. Some days are diamonds, and some days are stones. I love her with all my heart. She is a valued part of my life. I owe it to her to treat her with respect. To behave in any kind of threating manner with a young man planning to take her out is to openly question her decision making skills. I will not intimidate a young man with a firearm or a threat. If I truly have reservations regarding the date in question, the answer will be NO right then and there. The young man will be sent on his way, and then we will have a discussion regarding my concerns.

Now should something happen that requires the use of immedate self preservation tactics by my daughter, the situation changes entirely. There is no need to discuss that. We all know what we are, or are not, capable of doing when defending the lives of our children.

When it is all over and I am playing on the floor with my grandchildren, I don't want the Son in Law to be in fear of what I might do, just because I intimidated him the very first time I met him.

I don't claim to have the answer. With daughters, the questions change every day. I don't think I will be ready for that "first date" when it actually happens, but I will not lower myself to the level of threatening anyone.

 

[dragongoddess]

True self defense in a dating sitution is taught by Mom not dad. Dad is like the police. They show up after something has happened. Mom on the other hand teachs tatics so the young lady can defend herself. I'm quite sure if some of you think back you know what they were.



"If you show up at my house with pants so large they're sliding down your backside and no belt, I'm gonna get my gun!"

You did mean your HOT GLUE Gun didn't you?

Of course I agree with the rest of you on how kids are dressing. No goes on a date without being properly dressed. That means no baggy pants for the guys and for the young ladies you can forget the slut look. No suggestive clothing. Oh guys make sure you take a bath too.

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

I had a pair of mormons come by one gun cleaning day they didn't stay long.

Must not have been Utah Mormons. They are plenty comfortable with guns around here.

Hell, the new Cabela's store just passed the main Mormon Temple as the biggest attraction in the Utah. Cabela's must not of heard of Mormons fearing guns as they built it in a county that's 88% LDS.

I don't think it was the guns that scared them off.

That said, you certainly don't want the jilted boy to be called as a witness in a civil suit if you ever do have to defend your use of firearms. "Her old man always had guns out, looked like he was just waiting to shoot someone. I was scared so I quit seeing the girl."

 

[Majic]

Back when I was a 17 my g/f's father used to keep his shotgun in the corner by the front door (common practice around here back then for country folk). When he told me about it I asked to see it. He had a nice old Elsie that I really liked. I brought my Sterlingworth with me one day to show him. We spent right many hours in the woods behind the farm hunting with those 2 shotguns. I even asked him to sell me his shotgun if he ever decides to get rid of it and I'm still waiting.

 

[BobTheTomato]

I think in most cases if you raise your daughter right and give her the attention and love she needs she won't try to make decisions to spite you.

But on a funny note my Dad knew a guy who would etch the young mans name on a bullet and say, "This bullet is meant for you if you do anything to my daughter."

 

[NineseveN]

Just take the young man aside while you're waiting for her to get ready, put your arm around his shoulders, and say... "Just so you know, whatever you do to her tonight, I'm going to do to you when you get back."

That's the winner, right there. Good one.

 

[jfh]

I have two daughters....

Both of whom, as teenagers, were "really good kids."

The younger one, however, was more 'rebellious;' as a consequence, she sometimes picked boys to date of less than desirable status.

Fortunately, I had also taught at her high school--so at least some of her friends knew me (as a teacher figure) and as a "gunny." Many of these kids knew I was particularly adept with handguns. So, nothing usually ever had to be intimated (much less be directly intimidating), other than the typical "don't do anything I wouldn't do" caution my wife or I would give as they exited for the evening.

But, by the side door, there was the family bulletin board. In my corner, there were two smaller B-32(?)--one with three .45ACP wadcutters (nice clean holes) in the forehead; the other with the 'single ragged hole' shotgun blast in the COM.

I never showed my guns, never said a thing, unless the kid asked. If I had concerns about him, I'd simply see them out the side door and point out my "latest results" on the way out, and gleefully explain how much I enjoyed keeping my skills good.

My daughter knew the routine, and would roll her eyes--but never was angry--at least for that particular display of parenting.

 

[Gordon Fink]

I’m sure that I’ve told this story before, but I’ll repeat it. To preface, I’m a somewhat odd-looking fellow, but my wife is attractive, and our daughter is simply beautiful.

She’s not yet two years old, but folks already fawn over her. At her first checkup, the nurse warned me that I would have real trouble in about 14 years. She suggested that it would be a good idea to “clean the gun” when the boys started coming around. I don’t think she was joking.

In any case, I don’t make threats … and that’s all I’m going to say about that.

~G. Fink

 

[Desk Jockey]

SpiderJohn; that was excellent.

My daughters are now 19 and 16. I don't like every boy that shows up at the house, but I've never tried to intimidate any of them in any way. So far, so good, but I'm not out of the woods yet.

 

[Hobie]

I used to joke with my daughters about this. Then one day I'm down in the basement cleaning my HD shotgun and I hear some unusual walking around above my head/upstairs. Up I go with the now clean and loaded shotgun. Daughter is sitting on the sofa with boyfriend who gets the wide eyes ala but manages a weak smile. I didn't apologize to him but I did have to reassure my daughter that it was unintentional!

 

[rbernie]

My goal is to have my daughters' dates be more afraid of HER shooting skills than mine.

 

[tuna]

My wife and I have no children, yet.

I did have a date's father put my name on a bullet once. It kind of worked, as it led to a long and pleasant conversation about guns, and the girl got tired of waiting for me to stop talking with him. She never went out with me again.

If I have a daughter, I think that teaching HER skills would be better than an empty threat that really makes you look like a dork. I mean, what do you call a guy who appreciates that his date can: shoot, fish (bait the hook and remove the fish), hunt (and clean a kill), and carry on a decent conversation about guns? (My answer would be "son-in-law material")

 

[knuckles]

Load of crock to me, I certainly don't need anyone else telling me what is morally or ethically right.

That's my opinion BG, and you are entitled to it.

 

[fatelk]

My now-father-in-law hauled out his long barreled .44 mag Ruger Blackhawk "bear gun" the second time I met him, not as a threat though. My wife (gf at the time of course) told him I was interested in guns and he had one he's pretty proud of. Then again she is the youngest of six sisters, so he had plenty of experience in this area. After we were married, he gave me his Stevens Favorite .25 rimfire he's had since he was a kid a very long time ago. I can't shoot it since ammo hasn't been made in over 60 years, but it's still a favorite.

More on topic, my daughter is only two, but I've always been told that the best way to immunize your daughter against jerks, charmers, and other sex crazed teenage boys is to show her by example how a man is supposed to treat a woman. How dad and mom treat each other has a profound effect on kids growing up. I like to think she'll have the confidence and understanding to make good decisions, but there comes a time when a person makes their own choices and mistakes.

That being said, I really like the thing about the staple gun and the low rider pants. What's the deal with having to show off your boxers? Am I getting old or are kids just getting stupider?

 

[gaweidert]

No daughters, but 4 sons. But I got a pretty good story anyways.

When we first got married (1976) we lived in an apartment complex. I only owned two rifles. One a replica Civil War rifled musket as I used ot be in the NSSA. The neighbor's boy, 15 years old, was visiting. He happened to ask what I would do if I found an intruder in my apartment. I went to the closet got the musket. Then I attached it's 22" blade bayonet. His eyes went .

Then I said that my family is in this apartment and I take no prisoners where their safety is concerned. I would use the bayonet to stick the intruder to the wall and leave him squirming there until the cops came to take him away.

Kid left and my wife said "What did you just do?" I said I just sent a message to the rest of the kids in the complex that there is a crazy, insane, lunatic with a big ass gun with a monster bayonet in that place and they better not mess with him.

A few months late was Halloween. Every car in the parking lot got spray painted or waxed except mine and my wife's. Never had any trouble at all the rest of the time we lived there.

 

[mtnbkr]

If you think you've got to threaten your daughter's date then you've already failed as a parent.

Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

At least that's my goal. I hope I never have to be intimidating to my daughter's future boyfriends, but if she does date a guy that would need that sort of treatment, I hope that I have raised her in such a way that she would provide all the intimidation required.

Chris