Bad parent because I have guns in the house, please help

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This is the same misunderstanding that 80% of the anti's have. The mainstream media had drilled it into their head that "guns kill people". She has merely been jaded buy this and believing its true. I like the Idea of taking her shooting sometime. If she doesnt like it. She doesnt like it and so be it. But also tell her why you like it. To simply write her off is a very wrong thing to do. How do you think most anti's......became anti's? Being misinformed and written off by the shooting community.
 
I would say you are entitled to your opinion but don't try to force it on me and I won't force mine on you.

If it's your wife's friend I would mention that your children can't access them without you (ie. locked up).

Lastly if you want to bring out the big guns (no pun intended) I had someone who very against guns, I mentioned politely that if someone broke in and were about to rape her daughter she would be singing a very different tune.

But really I just ask people to keep their opinions to themselves especially while a guest in your home. GL.
 
If this woman does have children I'm guessing that they will grow up without learning about the concept of personal responsibility and will contribute to the continued downfall of our once great nation. Perhaps you should ask her how many people will be harmed as a result of national collapse. :D

More tangibly, I probably would have reminded her that car crashes kill approximately 40,000 people a year. (Nearly 250,000 children are harmed in automobile accidents each year.) Does she lock up her car keys or allow her children to ride in automobiles? Is that irresponsible? Should you get protective services on the phone right away?
 
The wife and I talked about it a little bit last night but I think we need to have sit down about this.
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Best idea ever.

My soon-to-be-fiancee and I have a similar issue with her very outspoken, anti-gun friend. We've been discussing it for weeks, but the problem resolved itself. Her friend made her mad over something else so we both agreed to ignore her until she acts respectful towards both myself and my girlfriend. (This one was killing me because she was pretty much anti-everything. I've yet to find out what she was "pro" about...just an all around confrontation, me against the world know it all. I think they were only friends due to the fact that they are polar opposites.)

Keep us informed as I am interested in hearing how this one turns out.
 
I feel for you, as my mom was an anti-gun person all her life. A responsible gun owner (and parent) realizes that guns CAN be incredibly dangerous, and takes steps to minimize that danger. My 12 yo daughter has been to the range, hates it, and that's O.K. My 10 yo daughter likes it, got a 10 22 for her birthday, has been to an Appleseed, and understands gun safety and how to secure a weapon. My 5 yo son has attended an Eddie Eagle safety talk, has hopefully internalized "get out of the room and tell an adult" and will be instructed in proper usage as he matures. All of my kids know that at home, in the car, or walking around, we are capable of protecting them above and beyond running away. While I wouldn't say write her off immediately, this is an issue, like abortion, that is very hard to debate unemotionaly and sway opinions. On the other hand, my wife has come around since we moved to Florida, and we go on shooting dates with our AK47. So you never know.
 
tell her you have guns in the house so you and yours are protected, her included when she is over.

if she has a problem with guns please do not come over. or call if your ever in need of protection, call a cop
 
Anyone that engages in an extended rant as a guest has violated the basic social contract as a guest. They've made themselves unwelcome.

As the host you have an obligation to make sure that your guests are having a good time. If one makes several uncomfortable with some unacceptable behavior you should ask them to stop behaving in such a manner. In this case you should have asked the lady to wait for a moment, ask the other guests that were nearby to "Excuse us for a moment" and ask her to continue the conversation outside. That allows her to take a breath and realize she's overstepped the bounds of good behavior, it allows you to politely interrupt her so she can be moved away from the other guests and a few feet closer to her car. It also allows you to deny her an audience and it gives you the opportunity to tell her in private that she's behaving badly or to explain to her that all guns are secured and only out when under your control just like your car or power tools. If she persists in private she won't disturb your other guests and you can escort her to her car and tell her to leave and not come back without making any more of a scene than needed.
 
Keep in mind this one very serious thing....

DCS is a state agency with absolutely zero accountability, that can remove your children form your home without a hearing, without presenting evidence and without a judges order. They can stop by unannounced based on an anonymous tip and if their agent sees something they don't like, you will have big trouble.

You will have to lawyer up and will drop $20K in legal fees just to get started in fighting your case.

If they place your child in foster care and the child is abused or even killed, you will have NO recourse against them.

Maine tried and convicted a woman for duct taping a toddler to a high chair and then taping her mouth shut so she would stop crying. The child died. The woman was the DCS appointed foster parent and the child had been removed from their biological parent. The foster parent was a former DCS investigator (who obviously knew all there was to know about child raising techniques). The biological parent had no recourse against the state.

Any knowledgeable parent needs to know to avoid DCS like the plague. Do not let them into your home without a search warrant (which they will not have). Roll the video camera and document them telling you that you have to let them in (which you don't).

There are "perfect" (and opinionated) parents out there who are on a self appointed crusade to make everyone else think like they do (strike up a conversation with someone involved with the La Leche League about breast feeding if you want to see this in action first hand). You do NOT want these kind of people in your home, nor do you want their kids hanging out with yours. Being ratted out by some liberal ninny, who thinks that your an abusive parent because Jr. got his hand slapped for touching the stove, can be a major life changing experience.

If you thought the ATF is bad news, read up on DCS horror stories (they're not hard to find).

Get your wife on board and don't let this woman in the house ever again.
 
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There should never be a next time, this woman came as a guest into your home and then berated you in front of other guests.

Why on earth would you (or your wife) ever tolerate her presence in your home again?

She is a fool and your family should not be made to suffer her around them.
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Exactly!
 
You are not a bad parent. You might have an issue with self confidence, or the ability to assert yourself. Guest or not, the woman was out of line, and you coud have asked to speak to her privately in another room, and then told her she was welcome to leave if she continued with her rant, and that you would not tolerate it in your house. You can always debate her another time, NOT in front of the other guest or kids. It was YOUR house, and YOU have the remote control, so to speak.
 
No reason to argue.
Honestly it would've been the whole deal of my house, my rules.

I think I would've asked her to leave and leave it at that.
 
Bad parent because I have guns in the house, please help

Yes, you are a bad parent, give all of your guns to me! :)
 
Like many others have stated her behaviour was totally inexcuseable and had it been me I would not have asked her to leave but I would have very vocally TOLD her to leave.
The nerve.
 
tell her if she feels like exercising her 1A free speech rights under the Constitution, it's perfectly acceptable to use your RKBA 2A rights. I'd have seen her to the door
 
Yeah this woman was bang out of order, that's being very disrespectful to the host.
I was at a mates house drinking and this girl who he was friends with was round.
She said she'd rather shoot me than see a deer be shot.
To which I replied I'd have to kill her first in prior action in that case :)

This is the level of delusional and insane people out there who are brainwashed.
 
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going through a similar situation with my fiance's stepmother, who thinks I need to lock up every single gun I have in the safe before she feels safe coming over. my fiance and I both told her that's rediculous, it's our house and the guns stay out, if she doesn't like it than don't come over - you should do the same.
 
I do not suffer foolishness well.
"Hey, Honey, Sally needs to suddenly have something come up and leave here. And hope the door don't hit her where the Good Lord split her."
read as: "Please politely excuse your friend so that I do not have to impolitely excuse her."
A little bit of common courtesy goes a long way, DO NOT come into my home as a guest, make a spectacle of yourself, and expect to EVER darken my door again.
Guns have nothing to do with it. Have some couth.
 
just tell her your participating in the only sport endorsed by both the constitution and the founding fathers
 
I prefer logic & reason.
"So, having a firearm in one's home instantly renders one unfit for parenting?"
"Are you making this argument seriously?"
"By that logic, all police officers are unfit parents."
"Are both parents rendered unfit by the firearm, or just those with testicles?"
"What is the mechanism by which the firearm renders the parent(s) unfit - does the gunpowder aerosolize, get inhaled, and affect the limbic system of the brain?"
"And you know this because...?"
"Do you have any evidence to support that claim?"

Once it gets pointed out that people are just parroting unsubstantiated Brady-speak they heard on the news, they usually feel foolish enough to shut up on their own.
 
BCCL said:
There should never be a next time, this woman came as a guest into your home and then berated you in front of other guests.

Why on earth would you (or your wife) ever tolerate her presence in your home again?

She is a fool and your family should not be made to suffer her around them.
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This^^^^^^^^

Times 2.
 
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^Sorry, but this is the wrong approach, it just furthers the stereotype she already has. Ask her if she has a fire extiguisher, or fire alarms i the house. How about potentially hazardous items like knives, toothpicks, electricity...

I have had this conversation with a neighbor, and I simply told her that I feel responsible for my family's safety and well being. I take the responsibility of providing a safe secure environment for my family very seriously and therefore I have guns in the house. We also love to spend quality time plinking cans, shooting rabbits, and practicing marksmanship and safety skills at the range.
 
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