Do you avoid going to countries that don't respect RKBA?

[Zedicus]

Voted Yes

Why?

Spent 10 years in the UK, a place where RKBA is not simply Disrespected, but is Openly and tirelessly Under Heavy Attack.

Not ever going to put myself through that kind of a nightmare again.

Are there places I would like to visit elsewhere in the world?
You Bet! almost to many to list.

But I doubt I will due to their government's stance(s) on RKBA.

Never knew about Guatemala, may actually take a trip there sometime (if the TSA nonsense ever at least calms down)

 

[Winchester 73]

We can turn the question around a little: can tourists carrie a gun when they visit the US?

Indiana.With a license from your country.
Go,Hoosiers.

 

[norwegianoperator]

Well, Indiana here we come ;-)

 

[arctictom]

Spend a bit of time in Old Mexico , nice folks, wouldn't miss the trips but the US is one of the few with real freedoms, folks are routinely searched in Germany, France, their cars and homes etc the 4th 1st and 2nd amendments are foreign to these folks, no pun intended.

 

[lee n. field]

Because I'm po, and have barely traveled inside the United State, much less out of it.

 

[bluestarlizzard]

i don't think i would turn down a trip to visit a foriegn country. i certanly wouldn't want to live anywhere but here. but then i am a homebody and i love my little mountain.
i think avoiding a place just because you disagree (strongly disagree) with the popular opinion of the people in that place is not really a good reason. personally i would love to visit france ( the louve, people, the louve) and germany (good beer) the swiss alps (great skiing) and sweden (the home of my viking ansestors. oh, and turkey (cause lousie said some of the buildings are amazing). i love US history, but its western heritiage is only 400 years old and i live in the area with all that 400 years. i would like to walk in a building built a thousand years ago and see a real castle or walk through stratford. I would like to see the place that our own culture evolved from.

of course, my dad has to be drug, kicking and screaming, on vacation to anywere. i don't think it has anything to do with not being able to carry, though. more has to do with his utter hatered of traveling. *grin*

 

[Winchester 73]

Well, Indiana here we come ;-)

norwegianperator,
You will love Indiana!Cornfields,river vistas,Amish country to take you back to the 1880's,cosmopolitan Indy,South Bend's glorious Notre Dame and so much more!
This is the most beautiful,undiscovered state in the whole USA.
Full disclosure.This Floridian just loves Indiana.You will too!Carrying.

 

[stubob2517]

Martin,

I've got you by two. I'm at 52 including yours on several occasions. I can still remember the first time I had Aquavit - it wasn't pretty!
I hope to add at least one new country a year until I retire from my current (second) career.

A far as the thread goes, becuase of my job I can't not go to places where there is no RKBA. I have had some great conversations with people all over the world about guns, self-defense, the 2nd A. and the cowboy myth/history of the US. I have also seen some of the coolest weapons ever in places where there is no RKBA

 

[The Weasel Squeezer]

Not just countries, but states and cities. I'd rather drive to Mississippi than fly to Paris, or Chicago. I've seen enough of the world, and considering the times we live in, well...
There's still a lot of America to see.
Use Mapquest and The Travelers Guide To Firearms Laws... and See the USA in your Chevrolet.

 

[CrawdaddyJim]

I go only when .gov sends me. There is nothing outside of the U.S. that I am gonna have kittens if I don't get to see it up close and personal. That is what the WWW is for.

 

[qwert65]

well, I go to school on St. Kitts and guns are forbidden there(of course I hear gunfire sometimes but whatever) As far as travel I'd go to Italy other than that I'm comfortable in the US

 

[norwegianoperator]

Stubob2517 and Winchester 73.. Tnx.. well the aquavit is like gasoline...it taste like a skunk`s piss, and we only drink it every christmas eve ;-) Is Indiana the only state in the US where forreign citizens can carrie a gun? I thought states like Montana, Nevada and Nebraska was quiet liberal too?

Well, anyway.. i really would love to visit the states again soon, cause it is almost like coming home ;-) i really love it over there. I almost married a American girl, but she ran faster than me ;-)

 

[Brenainn]

I wonder what would happen if you actually HAD to defend yourself in one of the carry allowed countries? All I can think is, what a mess!! Although, hey, maybe it's not as bad as the States!?

 

[Winchester 73]

Is Indiana the only state in the US where forreign citizens can carrie a gun

No.Alaska(21) and Vermont(16) do not require a permit of any kind.As long as you are of age,not a felon and intend no harm, you are good to go in these 2 states.
Also to my knowledge,the states of Arizona,Idaho and Missouri will accept valid licenses for any political subdivision.
I am not a firearms attorney.Be sure to double check my information for AZ,ID and MO.
Hope you have a great American tour.

 

[Sport45]

I go where work (usually) or vacation (rarely) takes me. The local people's right to bear arms doesn't enter the equation.

 

[Nil]

No. Traveling to foreign countries and experiencing different cultures are some of the things I enjoy most about life. Seeing places like the Great Wall, the Parthenon, the Sistine Chapel, and the Great Barrier Reef are worth not carrying.

 

[3rdpig]

I avoid anyplace where I can't carry and I haven't been out of the country in over 10 years. I would never live someplace where the laws disarmed me.

 

[ColinthePilot]

I've never left the CONUS, but I'm starting my Air Force Career, so not only will I be traveling quite a bit, my job IS to keep and bear (and open carry, brandish, and use) arms. I'm looking forward to life after training.

 

[carsten1911]

Cant avoid that

Since I was born and raised in a country where there is no general RKBA (and still live there) I cant avoid that...sadly.

But then again I do think all those who WANT to avoid it are pretty much resticted to staying inside the US of A, hm?

Carsten

 

[norwegianoperator]

 

[Chisel Head]

...... so that will remove your worries.... well, thats in Europe. but i know that you might not wanna walk the streets of Bogotà or Mexico city without a gun...

I hope this thread isn't considered too old to bump.
There are certain no-go sections in Germany and France where I wouldn't advise you to enter unarmed.
Since Norway isn't a member of the European Union, how restricted are handgun sales to citizens of neighboring countries? I can't imagine that, like selling alcoholic beverages, your laws there are liberal in other respects

...As a matter of fact I live in one

How are Luxembourg's laws? Do you have to travel to Antwerpen to get armed? Or, do you know if Belgium's laws are still liberal?

...and turkey (cause lousie said some of the buildings are amazing)...

The Sofia Mosque, for example, which was once a Christian church or Mt. Ararat which was stolen from the Armenians who lost 3/4ths of their territory together with amazing buildings and many lives. All amazing buildings west of the Dardenelles which are over 100 years old were built by Europeans, before the Turks threw them out. Taking into account of the percentage of Turks in German prisons compared to the percentage of Germans in German prisons, I wouldn't advise you to go to Turkey unarmed either. Especially, in the company of a young woman, while travelling east away from Istambul

...And since I have the medical/surgical history to back it up, I travel with one of these hawthorn root canes from Whistle Creek:
It is hard enough and heavy enough to kill somebody if you whack 'em in the head just right..

And since I have an automotive mechanical history, I sometimes travel with my Hazet torque wrench which has a rubber grip and is heavy enough to KO when striking with that grip. Sort of like using a billy club. Mine is much older, but nonetheless effective:

...I won't even buy gas in MD, though I have to drive through it to get to and from work...

I won't even buy gas in Germany. Not only because gas is cheaper in Switzerland which has more liberal firearms laws

 

[Bubbles]

I can't afford to travel to foreign countries so it's a moot point.

I do avoid states that don't respect my RKBA. I won't even buy gas in MD, though I have to drive through it to get to and from work.

 

[WSM MAGNUM]

Yes, I avoid all countries.

 

[moga]

Truth be told I would go on a driving vacation somewhere in the US where CCW is ok, than to go somewhere else outside the US where by definition the gun laws "suck"

FIFY

As someone else said, I won't visit states in the US that don't respect RKBA. I'd be damned if I am going to someone else's house across the pond that requires me to place my safety in their hands of their criminals. I don't care how safe it supposedly is. Unless there's zero crime, there's a possibility of being in the wrong place/wrong time, and cops still can't be every place at once. Even in Europe.

 

[HGUNHNTR]

I have done a lot of world traveling, lived in three different countries, and I would never limit myself based on another coutries views of the US constitution. I would not have guessed there was this much small mindedness on this particular board.