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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by PTK, Sep 21, 2008.

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  1. PTK

    PTK Member

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    (A.K.A., WalMart doesn't like concealed carry in their stores)

    Just got back from a WalMart run for art supplies, food, and shoes.

    Sometime during the course of shopping, my primary CCW was exposed, and a shopper notified WM security who then called the police.

    Once in line, I started noticing police coming into the store from both entrances (an "oh s---" moment) and I and my SO were surrounded by approximately twelve officers. Seems someone called it in as a "possible active shooter" event. :banghead:

    Anyway, I was handcuffed and my weapons were removed, ID/CCW checked, etc. I was then brought to the WM security office while waiting for the clear from my ID and CCW being checked (yes, it was all clear, I don't break laws). All this time, I'm sitting there in handcuffs (my back hurts) and asking "Am I under arrest?" to which the response was "No, you're being detained for our safety."

    My SO said I must've asked "Am I free to go, officers?" about half a dozen times.

    Once the clear ID and CCW came back, and the guns weren't listed as stolen, they "oh so kindly" escorted me (sans weapons) out to my truck where two officers talked to me for a bit.

    One basically said it was major BS for this to have happened, as I wasn't breaking any laws. The other told me I should get an IWB holster. Good people.

    They set the guns inside my truck, bid me a good night, and asked me to wait until they were gone to reload and reholster my guns.

    Overall, it was an annoying experience but otherwise harmless except for my back now hurts (old back injury, handcuffs HURT)

    Best line of the night?

    Female officer (to my SO): "Why are you carrying a knife?"

    My SO: ..."Because I can't carry a gun."

    I love her. :D



    EDIT: Before I forget (a.k.a. my SO reminded me...)

    Male officer: "You know, it's just not normal for people to carry this much, right?"

    Me: "It should be."

    Male officer: "...this isn't a political debate. You CAN legally carry these, but it's not normal."



    Also, I'm not allowed in WalMart, company-wide, now. Not that I'm planning to ever go back anyway!
     
  2. lee n. field

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    Make sure Wally World Corporate knows that.
     
  3. Cmdr. Gravez0r

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    What did you have? If you don't mind sharing.
    Who's going to know?
     
  4. armedandsafe

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    When you notify WW that you aren't going back and why, make sure you tell them that this one WW store, security officer, told you not to enter any other WW in the world.

    They will love that.

    Pops
     
  5. I whittles what I see

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    The only time I ever shop at Walmart is when I need duct tape or shotgun shells at 2 am. (don't ask I have weird hobbies) I really hate that place and how they treat people.
     
  6. Mickstix

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    I've always heard that Walmart was one of the only store chains that DID allow CCW in their stores?? (AKA: The Walmart Walk) Perhaps "Concealed" is the key here?? Someone actually saw yours. :)
     
  7. VARifleman

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    I've open carried into walmart...in Northern VA.
     
  8. PTK

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    Tomorrow morning, they'll know.

    XD45, two extra mags, FN USG 5.7, two extra mags, NAA .22wmr revolver (and a knife and such). Same that I carry every day.

    I'll be doing so tomorrow AM, they may do something about it.

    We were there mainly for art supplies - my SO makes fursuits (think mascots) and such.

    ...on my belt, in a holster, not being used. No cause for alarm, IMHO.

    They told me OC would've been fine, and that it was my CC that alarmed the shopper, thinking I was a crook. Insanity.
     
  9. Mcuraddoc

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    Are you me?

    I cannot believe you went through that.

    Bud, I'm glad you and your SO got out without outside issues. As far as Wal Mart goes, try Super Target!

    Thanks for sharing your story!
     
  10. Hoppy590

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    i think you may be over estimating the span of this incident

    chances are you were told this by a smart mouth manager who over estimates his power
     
  11. PTK

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    Super Target closes early, it's Sunday, and WM is open 24hr. They're convenient.

    And corporate will hear of this either way. If I can carry there, I'm going to get a letter stating I can, on company letterhead. And THEN I'll happily shop there again.
     
  12. Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow

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    Awesome! She got a sister?

    Well, it's not "normal" but neither is carrying any gun. Just meaning that most people don't.
     
  13. PTK

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    You don't want her sister. You really don't. They were raised VERY differently. As for my SO's answer, she's only 18 but very badly wants a CCW here in CO. She'll have to settle for OC once her father gifts her a handgun.

    Two of the twelve officers (still pissed, TWELVE OFFICERS?!) told me that the entire thing was major BS. Only the higher up (sergeant?) told me that it wasn't normal. The rest were just doing their thing.
     
  14. VARifleman

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    I like your style.
     
  15. R.W.Dale

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    WHAT! You were carrying 3 guns lord knows how much ammo and you wonder why everyone flipped out.
    :rolleyes:
    I'm a hardcore gun nut and my first reaction to someone carrying that much heat with them would be that you were planing to go postal as well.

    You need to learn to prioritize a bit better
     
  16. PTK

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    I do too. :)

    Opinions are like.... ;)

    Seriously though, I carry 3 guns. One LH, one RH, one last ditch belly gun. Every day.
     
  17. R.W.Dale

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    Well I'm not the one whose been kicked out of the Woolworth's so to speak.

    No wonder you have back problems
     
  18. PTK

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    Very true, but I'll take freedom over lesser preparedness any day. :)

    Cute. I have back problems from prior injuries that make it incredibly difficult to move quickly or easily sometimes. In essence, I'm not always able to run away easily if the SHTF.
     
  19. R.W.Dale

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    I have three vehicles but I don't try do drive them at the same time. If you find yourself in a "situation" you'll get shot before you can decide on which gun to use.
     
  20. PTK

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    We'll have to agree to disagree. :)
     
  21. General Geoff

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    An FN Five-seveN and an XD45, both with two extra mags, AND a .22 mag revolver? How do you do it? What holsters do you use for each?


    btw if I ever visit Colorado, I want to shake your hand.



    edit; krochus, PTK is just preparing for a highly unlikely but nonetheless possible "hollywood style" shootout where a bunch of guys with guns ambush him. Can't blame him for being overly prepared. :)
     
  22. R.W.Dale

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    I can respect that.
     
  23. PTK

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    DeSantis holsters, one on each hip, mag pouches in front of the holsters. Haven't had a problem in over ten months here in CO so far.


    Absolutely. :)


    Thank you, friend. THIS, right here, is why I love THR. :)
     
  24. Devonai

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    If you can carry two full-size pistols concealed, then God bless you. I am hardly going to debate whether or not this is "too much" hardware; I have done so in limited circumstances but my primary was carried in the open.

    My point is, you were spotted. Do you think the reason why you were spotted was because you were trying to conceal two full-size pistols?
     
  25. General Geoff

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    PTK, one other question. Your two spare mags for the Five-seveN, are they standard 20 rounders, or did you opt for the 30 rounders?
     
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